What is your main gripe with the proposed Briggs deal?
 

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1)The magnitude of the contract Briggs is getting negates a lot of the future cap space we freed up with the Archuleta and Patten cuts.

2)Were probably going to have to cut Wynn to make this jive with the cap

3)This move doesn't improve the defense all that much. Defensive Line is still more important, and this still compromises our ability to improve there.

Out of the poll choices, I'd take both "out of position to get an impact player at No. 6" and "doesn't fill a need" if I could.

At the very least, this trade pours more resources into the defensive side of the ball where we badly need them. That's always a plus.

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1) Team chemistry/impact on Rocky
2) Cap space assuming he signs for $20 mil guaranteed & has a contract more favorable to him a la AA & Loyd.

These 2 are so intertwined, team chemistry is impacted more by big $ signings than by vet. min. signings. I sure hope that the coaches think Rocky can play, if not this trade might make a lot more sense.

Other than this, on paper this is so obviously a good deal for us. We'd get a big time LB that is definitely an upgrade, and we could draft a DE or DT at 31. That's 2 starters for our ailing D.

Glad you asked the question Matty, cause I think some of the responses here have been quite irrational.

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The Briggs deal makes no sense on a number of different levels.
1. We have sufficient talent and depth at the linebacker position. Where our d lacks is on the D-line, this is clear to any Redskins fan with any football sense. We had a league low 19 sacks last year. Is Briggs going to help rush the passer?? We also need an interior penetrating force the push the pocket and stuff the run. Is Briggs going to provide that?

2. Money, that boy wants the get paid and our salary cap situation for 2008 is not accommodating. Go check out the salary cap chart.

3. Wasted picks. We used two 2nd round picks and a 3rd round pick for Rocky McIntosh and TJ Duckett. Duckett is already gone; we at least need to try to DEVELOP McIntosh.

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EVERYTHING!!!! Most importantly to me though is im sick and tired of getting players who only seem to play for a big pay day. To me, other teams have sucess because they draft young and hungry players who at least are playing to get that big contract. We on the other hand are the dummies who consistly pay them and when they get here they dont seem to make much of an impact. Given there are a few exceptions but for the most part they end up being role players not playmakers. For the past 8-9 years we have done the samething EVERY offseason, we try and buy a team. Why not we make like a 3 year plan not to do that, lets try and build through the draft for once and see what happens. I mean we are the richest franchise in sports year end and year out, we as fans, TRUE SKINS FANS will not go anywhere, we will always cheer our team, so why not try right? Im 25 years old, i was 11 the last time our team won the super bowl, i would give anything to experience that again before i cant chew my own food, i wanna experience what posser fans like bmore, seattle, jacksonville get to experience which is a winning franchise.

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I chose all three, and for one simple reason: Value, specifically the lack thereof. This is a cover 2 outside linebacker whose stats benefited greatly from playing next to a perennial all-pro in Brian Urlacher and more importantly, behind a d-line that 4 or 5 times as good as ours. What's going to happen when he's asked to take on blockers on every snap because golston, salavea, daniels, wynn, carter, etc, just aren't good enough to consistently require the double team. In chicago, their D line was strong enough that the backers could really fly to the ball because the oline had their hands full blocking the DT's and DE's. That ain't happening in DC anytime soon, especially if this trade/sexual assault goes through.

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Good thread.

First off, there are a few things that could be perceived to be absolutely right about this trade. For one, Briggs is a good linebacker. I'll get back to that in just a minute. Secondly, he's young and by all accounts, we'll still have a pick later in the first round. No biggie, right?

That being said, I still don't like the trade. I said Briggs was good, but he's not great as some might believe. I think you can plug most good linebackers behind that defensive line of Chicago's along with Urlacher, and come out with a stud linebacker. My thing with Briggs is and this trade, if he's not amazing then we have no business scuttling the sixth pick to the Bears.

Secondly, the cap ramifications will probably tie our hands some with negotiating with some of our 'core' guys. Which leads me to my next point, exactly what is a core Skin these days anyway? I'm sick and tired of hearing Joe Gibbs stand at that damn podium with those three (I'm about to get banned!) dusty Super Bowl trophies, talk about how we value this guy and that guy, and turn right around and pluck the next darling that will supposedly turn this franchise around. I'm not buying it.

We can't continue tell Redskins fans to be patient while at the same time importing high priced talent and creating an atmoshere of high expecations! It just doesn't work that way. This trade or aquisition will have a rippling effect.

Hey, if we draft Rocky McIntosh in the second round last year then we need to live or die with his ass on the outside this year. Plain and simple. It seems to me, we have this conditional committment to the guys we draft.

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This is a great thread Matty, you've just made my morning because I really want to go off on why I hate this trade. I have several key reasons as to why I loathe this trade, you can see them listed berlow. Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy!

These are in no particular order

1) Lance Briggs is leaving a team that just played in the Superbowl to come play for a team that was 5-11 last year. To me, this says something about the man's character. He's not interesed in winning, he's interested in money. Why are we signing a player who was disgruntled on a team that played in the Superbowl?! It sounds to me like this guy is going to be a locker room problem. I don't think anyone would pay him as much money as he wants except DC!!!!

2) Once again, we're going to paying a man a lot of money before he proves himself to the Redskins. I would much rather have a hungry play, like Rocky McIntosh, out there. We paid Arch and Lloyd a lot of money before they proved themselves, and look how they played last season!

3) Rocky McIntosh. Seriously, what the hell?! We had to trade up draft picks to get this kid, and we're not going to start him AGAIN this season! This is really going to hurt his development.

4) Lance Briggs was a great weakside linebacker when he had a great DL infront of him. The Bear's D-Line is way better than ours, and from what I've heard, Briggs was kinda a seak and destroy linebacker and was able to do so cause his D-Line stopped O-lineman from blocking him. That's not gonna be the case in DC, he could make a lot of tackles for us, but if they're 5-6 yards down the field, what's it matter.

5) We need a draft pick to get a D-Lineman more than we need a linebacker. Somebody needs to knock some sense into Snyder, and tell him not to make this trade. His proclivity to spend lots of money has become a vice and is killing this team.

6)The draft day part won't be as fun with such a late pick in the draft.

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I went with option 3, he doesn't fill a crucial need. IMO, I feel like our linebacking corps is the strongest part of our defense right now (which isn't saying much, but still) and we'd be better served drafting a Dlineman or getting another CB through a trade.

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[quote=freddyg12;293038]1) Team chemistry/impact on Rocky
2) Cap space assuming he signs for $20 mil guaranteed & has a contract more favorable to him a la AA & Loyd.

These 2 are so intertwined, team chemistry is impacted more by big $ signings than by vet. min. signings. I sure hope that the coaches think Rocky can play, if not this trade might make a lot more sense.

Other than this, on paper this is so obviously a good deal for us. We'd get a big time LB that is definitely an upgrade, and we could draft a DE or DT at 31. That's 2 starters for our ailing D.

Glad you asked the question Matty, cause I think some of the responses here have been quite irrational.[/quote]


It could work out fine if we land the right DE or DT at #No 31. The draft is so heavy with potential studs at the two positions that we could just do that. However, I don't much feel like taking a chance and winding up with less than a high impact player at DE or DT (preferably at DE). I don't want to trade down lower than #8 and would be satisfied with #8 and late first rounder or second rounder (absolutely no less). I want to fill slots at DE and DT, one with a top player, another with a great prospect.
If this can't be done, I want to stay at #6 and grab Gaines Adams. Best case scenario if we trade down: Okoye and Anthony Spencer.

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[quote=GTripp0012;293037]1)The magnitude of the contract Briggs is getting negates a lot of the future cap space we freed up with the Archuleta and Patten cuts.

2)Were probably going to have to cut Wynn to make this jive with the cap

3)This move doesn't improve the defense all that much. Defensive Line is still more important, and this still compromises our ability to improve there.

Out of the poll choices, I'd take both "out of position to get an impact player at No. 6" and "doesn't fill a need" if I could.

At the very least, this trade pours more resources into the defensive side of the ball where we badly need them. That's always a plus.[/quote]

1) we have no idea how the contract would be structured. Give Snyder more credit. He'a a wizard when it comes to that.

2) Wynn is past his prime and won't impact the Redskins either way.

3) Doesn't improve the Defense all that much? Another assumption based on no facts. Last year nobody was saying AA was a good fit or star player. This year almost every NFL analyst agrees that Briggs is one of the top 5-6 LB's in the league today.

The only arguement is losing the ability to draft a star Defensive lineman at # 6. Who knows what we can scoop up at # 31, that will determine alot.

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Just a question, would anyone be happy if we got Briggs and were still able to get a quality defensive lineman at #31?

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My problems:

1) This move buries Rocky McIntosh in the depth chart. He looked promising when he got on the field to me.

2) Briggs is going to cost a lot, which impacts us THIS YEAR. We'll have to cut Wynn this season to accomodate Briggs. Wynn is liked in the locker room. I worry how that will affect player morale.

3) Briggs' cap hit won't be terrible in 07 or 08, but in 09 it's going to get huge. We can deal with it, but it's just more problems.

4) D line is a much bigger need than LB. Kedric Golston is not a run stopper.

5) If we're going to make this deal, at least wait until we're on the clock at 6. If Peterson or Quinn are there at 6, I bet you a thousand dollars we can get a better offer than Briggs and the 31. If nobody calls, then I'd prefer just picking Okoye at 6. But if we trade for Briggs, at least we will have given the league a chance to blow us away with an offer for Brady Quinn or Adrian Peterson.

The whole move reeks of stupidity.

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You guys do realize that we would have to pay that 6th overall pick about the same as Briggs right. So don't tell me about spending to much money. Number 6 is going to make alot of money and we don't even know if he can play.

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[quote=Mattyk72;293053]Just a question, would anyone be happy if we got Briggs and were still able to get a quality defensive lineman at #31?[/quote]

To be honest, no.

Briggs buries Rocky, which means we wasted our 2nd rounder this year (don't forget, we traded that pick to get Rocky last year). So essentially, we will have traded the #6, a second rounder, and a ton of cap space (the Briggs cap hit minus the Rocky cap hit) all to fill our OLB spot and a quality DL.

We'll have to release Wynn, still a serviceable DL himself, and a locker room favorite. I worry about the team getting pissed that we dump our own players and leaders for these guys who come in and get paid.

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[quote=Mattyk72;293053]Just a question, would anyone be happy if we got Briggs and were still able to get a quality defensive lineman at #31?[/quote]

I could live with that. After, reflecting on the deal for a few days, I am better with it. I am concerned with cost of paying Briggs, and our 31st pick.
I view Briggs as a nice to have, rather than crucial. Some way, we have to come out of this thing with AT LEAST one GOOD D-linemean. That is crucial.
It would make a, nice, kick ass, starting three. Another concer, is what is up with Rocky? Can't play, not ready yet?

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;293053]Just a question, would anyone be happy if we got Briggs and were still able to get a quality defensive lineman at #31?[/QUOTE]I wouldn't be happy, but I'd be "less pissed." I'd still be bitter that we have no 2nd rounder for essentially no reason at all. Plus, like I said before, I feel like we really don't need another LB at this point.

Ideally we trade down a few spots, still get a good DT like Okoye or Branch, and pick up at least a 2nd rounder (where, apparently, the real gems can be found) so that we can get some secondary help.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;293056]You guys do realize that we would have to pay that 6th overall pick about the same as Briggs right. So don't tell me about spending to much money. Number 6 is going to make alot of money and we don't even know if he can play.[/quote]

That is categorically incorrect.

Last year, the 6th pick, Vernon Davis of the 49ers, got $14 million in guaranteed money, and his deal was worth a total of $5 million per season over 5 years.

Briggs is rumored to be getting $20 million in guarantees, and a total of $7.5 million per season.

Not to mention we still have to pay #31 on top of it - though I'll grant you that if #31 pans out as a good player, he'll be a bargain at what we're paying him.

But the real value isn't keeping the #6 pick, the real value is trading down to get away from the #6 pick dollars, and pay a lower 1st, 2nd, and maybe 3rd rounder to fill the multiple gaps we have.

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Ok sorry schneed. I still don't think this deal is to terrible. I'm not going to get all upset if it is done. I've put to much emotion into the Redskins offseason these past few years and I'm tired of it at this point I'm at the point where I don't care just let me go to some games next year and watch them win and then on to the Superbowl. lol

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No question Briggs is a great player, but let's say b/c of Brigg's big salary we had to cut Marcus Washington next year or couldn't afford to pay Cooley next year. What we do now affects how we handle our guys in years to come.

We have enough talent at LB!!! Get some other help. We gave away the house to get Rocky. Let him play unless he's totally incompetent.

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I hope people realize that trading down is no guarantee. It seems like every year there's all this pre-draft hype of teams wheeling and dealing and draft day comes and very little happens in the 1st round as far as trades.

Don't get me wrong I'd love to see us trade down and pick up more picks, but it's not quite as easy as some seem to think.

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[quote=redsk1;293062]No question Briggs is a great player, but let's say b/c of Brigg's big salary we had to cut Marcus Washington next year or couldn't afford to pay Cooley next year. What we do now affects how we handle our guys in years to come.

We have enough talent at LB!!! Get some other help. We gave away the house to get Rocky. Let him play unless he's totally incompetent.[/quote]

Briggs' deal isn't going to break the cap for us next year. As people have already mentioned the #6 pick isn't going to come cheap either.

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we got to have one of the stupidest FO if not that stupidest. We do tha same shit every off season and its really not working why we keep doing it, i mean going out and spendind crazy money on player when they come to us they play like shit i would rather see us really just try drafting. I don't like the boy briggs, we draft rocky last years lets work with him and draft a d-lineman what we really need not someone who just wanna get paid. I will be very hurt if we make this trade. does anyone know if there was a 2nd or 3rd pick in that trade for us??

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1. Not a major need.
2. Lose out on possible draft day trade downs.
3. I don't beleive Briggs will be as good in another defense as he looks playing in Chicago's great defense.

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Bringing in Briggs will probably deflate an already low locker room morale... as we saw it can happen and it happened last year... and its a need that at this poing in time doesn't need to be filled. With Fletcher and Washington, and good depth at LB... why the hell would we spend more $ and trade anything for another LB?

I want to see them take Okoye or even Landry at this point... we need help in the line more than anything, but I would take an upgrade to the secondary if he was a playmaker and be happy...

Have you ever seen a woman with a flat, tone stomach, but a really big fat ass... Why would you buy her an ab machine?

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[quote=Mattyk72;293063]Don't get me wrong I'd love to see us trade down and pick up more picks, but it's not quite as easy as some seem to think.[/quote]

I agree with this, but it becomes a lot more likely to happen if Brady Quinn or Adrian Peterson were sitting there at 6 when we're on the clock.

Which is why I can't understand why we'd make a move before we're actually on the clock. Who knows, we could get amazing value.

And besides, if given the choice between Briggs and the #31, and standing pat at #6 and picking, I'd choose standing pat and picking at #6. Okoye would fill a much bigger need for us than Briggs does.

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That's a good question. To me it's not only about the picks involved, how good Briggs is or isn't, the cost, or whether he fits or doesn't. It's about what this trade represents and how this organization continues to run things. Sure, we need to add quality and sensible FA during the off season, but it seems like it's business as usual here.

Let me digress for a moment, remember last year when Brunell got booed when he briefly relieved Campbell? It started somewhat of firestorm here on the Warpath, in fact. I felt as though the stadium wasn't booing Brunell the person so much, but that he represented yet another high priced failure, and to many he embodied a coach's stubborness that just stuck with him too long. Before you jump on my back, I'm only suggesting that's what I believe could have possibly been going on in the minds of the idiots who booed the man. I'm not justifying it one way or another.

Now let's fast foward, I think the Briggs deal could draw the ire of the fans and the city in a similiar way. Here's the kicker...whether he turns out to be a stud or not , people , no matter what will be overly critical of Joe Gibbs and this organization. Unless he clearly has one of the best seasons in years at that position, it will become more of a distraction than anything else to this team.

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The BIGGEST thing I don't like about it is... this guy is a Drew Rosenhous represented player acting like a primadonna because he was franchised... he wants to sit out for 10 games becasue hes [U]only [/U]gonna make 7 mil next year...

Sound like a true redskin?:vomit:

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[quote=Schneed10;293069]I agree with this, but it becomes a lot more likely to happen if Brady Quinn or Adrian Peterson were sitting there at 6 when we're on the clock.

Which is why I can't understand why we'd make a move before we're actually on the clock. Who knows, we could get amazing value.

And besides, if given the choice between Briggs and the #31, and standing pat at #6 and picking, I'd choose standing pat and picking at #6. Okoye would fill a much bigger need for us than Briggs does.[/quote]

I agree but it just seems like some people keep trumpeting this idea of trading down like it's a simple thing to do.

Personally I'd rather hold on to the #6 pick too and see what shakes out on draft day.

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[quote=Mattyk72;293053]Just a question, would anyone be happy if we got Briggs and were still able to get a quality defensive lineman at #31?[/quote]

No! Rocky hasn't even had a chance to play. It's the coaches job to get this guy ready to play. If Rocky isn't ready then let Marshall move back to his natural position. Marshall played weakside on a top 5 defense in 04. Guy played very well while Lavar was hurt. Do any of the defensive coaches who are making a ton of $ realize this?

Plus why do we always chase other teams players? How about rewarding guys who play well for you? Look what SF did w/ Gore? They tore up his contact and gave him 14 mil guar. Why aren't we doing this w/ Cooley?

I swear I wish we would get Floyd Reese or someone who knows what the hell they are doing. We don't have anyone in our FO who has a clue about what it takes to win in today's NFL.

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simply put, he takes up too much cap space. I dont feel comfortable paying any defensive player that much money, the only 2 positions I do are QB and LT. Look at the Pats, they dont sign huge long term contracts with big bonuses, and they are considered to be the top contender next year because they are solid at every position.

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[quote=Mattyk72;293073]I agree but it just seems like some people keep trumpeting this idea of trading down like it's a simple thing to do.

Personally I'd rather hold on to the #6 pick too and see what shakes out on draft day.[/quote]

I think people are generally working under the assumption that one of the guys available to us at 6 is going to be a very in-demand prospect.

Jamarcus Russell is loved because he's huge and has a cannon arm
Calvin Johnson is loved for obvious reasons
Joe Thomas is thought to be the only franchise T in the draft
Brady Quinn looks real good to QB-hungry teams
Adrian Peterson has crazy RB talent

Given the needs of the teams in the top 5, there's a good chance one of those guys falls to 6. I think people are assuming one of them will be there for us, and that someone will want them. I think chances are, we'll be fielding a couple offers.

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[quote=Schneed10;293069]I agree with this, but it becomes a lot more likely to happen if Brady Quinn or Adrian Peterson were sitting there at 6 when we're on the clock.

Which is why I can't understand why we'd make a move before we're actually on the clock. Who knows, we could get amazing value.

And besides, if given the choice between Briggs and the #31, and standing pat at #6 and picking, I'd choose standing pat and picking at #6. Okoye would fill a much bigger need for us than Briggs does.[/quote]

I agree.
Unless the deal is UNBELIEVABLE, we wait until were on the clock! This deal is not.............that

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[quote=Schneed10;293080]I think people are generally working under the assumption that one of the guys available to us at 6 is going to be a very in-demand prospect.

Jamarcus Russell is loved because he's huge and has a cannon arm
Calvin Johnson is loved for obvious reasons
Joe Thomas is thought to be the only franchise T in the draft
Brady Quinn looks real good to QB-hungry teams
Adrian Peterson has crazy RB talent

Given the needs of the teams in the top 5, there's a good chance one of those guys falls to 6. I think people are assuming one of them will be there for us, and that someone will want them. I think chances are, we'll be fielding a couple offers.[/quote]

Good summary of the marquee players that other GMs could fall in love with enough to cough up some picks. I think the Cards are the wild card in all this, but they may field offers to move back too. Minnesota is an interesting scenario too, they might want to move up a few spots to get quinn.
Overall, we're not in great shape at #6 because most teams will know we're not seriously interested in these guys, or teams interested in these guys will want to move up higher than 6.

If CJ were to fall, maybe we'd take him, but that's unlikely he'd slip to 6. Now that Denver signed Bly, they may not be in the running for the 6 pick. Houston might be a possibility, but to move up 2 spots we're not going to get a lot of picks from them. We'd be lucky to get a 2nd.

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At first I did not like this deal, but after I thought about it I did not hate it as bad. We would have a pro bowl linebacker, behind Carter and it might solidify that side against the run. It would also free Carter up to rush the passer more. For them to make this deal, I think we should insist that they take Rocky and give us a second rounder. If we don't we will destroy him anyway.

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MY biggest gripe is another Briggs thread about the same stuff.LOl

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My biggest gripe is that there is so much u can do with that 6th pick I can't understand why someone in their right mind would trade it a month before draft day! For a F@#%ing big name player who most likely will not fit in our system. Just let me be the gm for one season, I'd have a championship team. This IS SO FRUSTRATING, I might pickett in front of Redskins Park... Anyone with me?

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Briggs doesn't come close to filling a real need and unlike CJ, if he were brought in, wouldn't make the big plays as often to warrant the cost of his contract. Plus if it were to go through, I don't think it's unfair, but maybe stretching it a bit, to say that Rocky was one of the most wasteful use of trading multiple picks for one pick since ricky williams. He barely saw the field last year yet when he did he was making plays, but despite that they r willing to give up our high 1st and a contract equaling almost as much as Washington's and Fletcher's contracts combined for a player that has been very productive but so far only in a very different type of defensive set. If Briggs were a DE this would definitely be worth it, but as it stands LB is already the defense's strongest group.
For once the Skins actually have some bargaining power with their first round pick and that pick could carry a lot of value come draft day if one of a couple players falls to them so I hope they atleast wait until draft day to make a trade decision.

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[QUOTE=diehardskin2982;293094]This IS SO FRUSTRATING, I might pickett in front of Redskins Park... Anyone with me?[/QUOTE]I was thinking of something along similiar lines: if we makes this trade, start a riot at the Draft Day party at FedEx when the Bears make the 6th pick, and then come back for more when we make the 31st.*




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[quote=diehardskin2982;293094]My biggest gripe is that there is so much u can do with that 6th pick I can't understand why someone in their right mind would trade it a month before draft day! For a F@#%ing big name player who most likely will not fit in our system. Just let me be the gm for one season, I'd have a championship team. This IS SO FRUSTRATING, I might pickett in front of Redskins Park... Anyone with me?[/quote]

I'm with you. If I lived in town, I would be right outside of Redskin Park. What the hell is going on? Have these executives lost their freaking minds! At first I thought this was just a bad rumor, fabricated by RosenNUTS. It looks like the Redskin executives have seriously considered this crap. DON'T DO IT! Wait until draft day and wheel and deal when other teams start to panic and feel they are going to miss out on a certain player. Freaking idiots! Make the Redskin organization the laughing stock of the league.