I'm curious if they are trying to get COOLEY RE-SIGNED before camp?
 

Just curious, wonder where Chris is on the PRIORITY LIST?
I would think they would like to get his DEAL DONE.

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I'm sure they will as soon as his time comes. Right now we have free agency and the draft to worry about.

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There is no cap space to renew him right now. Let him play out on his rook contract at a cheap price an then re-sign for next year.

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while i think cooley is a fine tight end, no way we should break the bank for him.

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[quote=dmek25;286433]while i think cooley is a fine tight end, no way we should break the bank for him.[/quote]


I think we need to come as close as possible. I bet when it's his time to renew, he'll be one of the top paid TE in the league.

In fact, if we had the room it would be smart to re-sign him sooner than later seeing how the market is rising year over year.

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[quote=dmek25;286433]while i think cooley is a fine tight end, no way we should break the bank for him.[/quote]

I think he's a premier TE in the league. I don't know about breaking the bank. But you can't let a player like CC get away.
You would probually break the bank to sign another TE with his talent level, to replace a guy like Chris.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;286440]I think he's a premier TE in the league. I don't know about breaking the bank. But you can't let a player like CC get away.
You would probually break the bank to sign another TE with his talent level, to replace a guy like Chris.[/quote]

Good point.. I would be REALLY surprised if we didn't try to extend his contract with us throughout the season..

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He is definitely someone we should approach mid season.

If we let him hit open waters we will pay through the nose or lose him.

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Cooley way 8th among TE in receptions, 7th in yards, and tied for 4th in TDs. I'd say he is going to want a big payday, but I don't think we will break the bank

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I see a bonus of $12mil + on the horizon if we want to keep him.

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[QUOTE=dmek25;286433]while i think cooley is a fine tight end, no way we should break the bank for him.[/QUOTE]


I agree. In my mind, Cooley needs to show us more before people here start getting their panties in a wad about him being signed to a long-term contract. If he tears it up this year and puts up the kind of numbers that warrant a nice, long-term contract, then fine. Sign him up.

Until then, he's just another tight end.

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[quote=Beemnseven;286479]I agree. In my mind, Cooley needs to show us more before people here start getting their panties in a wad about him being signed to a long-term contract. If he tears it up this year and puts up the kind of numbers that warrant a nice, long-term contract, then fine. Sign him up.

Until then, he's just another tight end.[/quote]

I think CLEARY COOLEY has showed us PLENTY!
If he doesn't deserve a LONG TERM contract on our team I don't know who does?
He's a definite keeper, young, good blocker and fine catcher, team guy & gets it done on the field. What more could you possibly ask for?

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[quote=Beemnseven;286479]I agree. In my mind, Cooley needs to show us more before people here start getting their panties in a wad about him being signed to a long-term contract. If he tears it up this year and puts up the kind of numbers that warrant a nice, long-term contract, then fine. Sign him up.

Until then, he's just another tight end.[/quote]

Dude, what games have u been watching?? Cooley did LOT for us, we would have lose some games if it wasn't for him..

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Never fails.

Question the superstar status of Chris Cooley and people go bonkers.

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[quote=Beemnseven;286525]Never fails.

Question the superstar status of Chris Cooley and people go bonkers.[/quote]
I didn't here anyone say anything about superstar?
But not sure what games you've been to and EVER seen COOLEY as an AVERAGE TE. That's crazy. I go to all home games and have never seen him play AVERAGE EVER!
This guy is a PROVEN PREMIER TE in the league and a leader for the SKINS.

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[quote=dmek25;286433]while i think cooley is a fine tight end, no way we should break the bank for him.[/quote]Ideally, no, but he is very deserving of top TE money. This is a guy who's getting paid a 3rd round salary, has eastablished himself as at least a top 10 TE, more like top 5, and hasn't complained once about his money. This is the type of player who you pay to set a good example.

Plus he's vital to the success of the passing game.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan_nn;286529]I didn't here anyone say anything about superstar?
But not sure what games you've been to and EVER seen COOLEY as an AVERAGE TE. That's crazy. I go to all home games and have never seen him play AVERAGE EVER!
This guy is a PROVEN PREMIER TE in the league and a leader for the SKINS.[/QUOTE]

Sorry. I didn't realize "superstar" and "PROVEN PREMIER TE in the league" were mutually exclusive.

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I don't think he is Antonio Gates but he seems to do everything we ask of the guy. I think you are underestimating his value to the team. There are alot of faster, bigger, and more popular players but this guy fits our scheme tremendously.

My question to you is who can we get for equal or lesser value that will perform at equal or better level. I don't think we should start underpaying on our only consistent short pass/surehanded threat in an offense which is marred by the inability to throw deep.

I think the reality is we should do everything within reason to keep this guy if we can.

[quote=Beemnseven;286576]Sorry. I didn't realize "superstar" and "PROVEN PREMIER TE in the league" were mutually exclusive.[/quote]

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[quote=Beemnseven;286576]Sorry. I didn't realize "superstar" and "PROVEN PREMIER TE in the league" were mutually exclusive.[/quote]

This should I think sum it up in a simple fashion, from my stand point.
He is ranked 8th or BETTER IN ALL categories for TE in production in the entire NFL.
Stats on nfl.com
I think he is one of the best in the league at his position and has to be paid accordingly. If you let a guy like CC depart, you are going to have to pay BIG BUCKS to replace a player with his talent level.

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[QUOTE=arrington_QBkiller;286465]Cooley way 8th among TE in receptions, 7th in yards, and tied for 4th in TDs. I'd say he is going to want a big payday, but I don't think we will break the bank[/QUOTE]

Here are the stats for [URL="http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/playerstats.asp?id=5907&Submit=Go"]Daniel Graham[/URL], the highest paid TE in the league.

If Cooley is a priority, and I believe he should be, we need to treat him as such. He was our top receiver last year, and tied the team lead for receiving touchdowns. Among TEs on the team he had [B]eleven times[/B] more catches than all others combined.

Cooley blocks - well. He does everything he is asked to do. He is a free spirit on the team without being a disruption ([URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/06/AR2006010602033_pf.html"]to anyone but the cheerleaders[/URL]). Frankly, I think a lot of what we have done with the cap lately (the Brunell refinance which makes him a free agent next year, etc.) is to make sure we have a little cash next year for the Chris Cooleys of the team.

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First, I do want the Redskins to extend Cooley before he becomes a free agent. But I do believe Redskins fans as a whole have over rated Cooley. We all love him...he plays hard...he is the type of player we want on this team. But trust me the rest of the league is not sitting around counting the minutes until Chris Cooley becomes a free agent.

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[quote=BrudLee;286599]Here are the stats for [URL="http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/playerstats.asp?id=5907&Submit=Go"]Daniel Graham[/URL], the highest paid TE in the league.

If Cooley is a priority, and I believe he should be, we need to treat him as such. He was our top receiver last year, and tied the team lead for receiving touchdowns. Among TEs on the team he had [B]eleven times[/B] more catches than all others combined.

Cooley blocks - well. He does everything he is asked to do. He is a free spirit on the team without being a disruption ([URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/06/AR2006010602033_pf.html"]to anyone but the cheerleaders[/URL]). Frankly, I think a lot of what we have done with the cap lately (the Brunell refinance which makes him a free agent next year, etc.) is to make sure we have a little cash next year for the Chris Cooleys of the team.[/quote]
I agree 100%, This GUY DESERVES THE MONEY!

Man, he has got some cheerlearders run off..... Capn.:smashfrea

celt, it's the other way around........HE IS WAY UNDERRATED!
Remember how many 56 jerseys you USED TO see. They are NOW 47, for a GREAT REASON, this guy is becoming the face of the team.

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[quote=celts32;286602]First, I do want the Redskins to extend Cooley before he becomes a free agent. But I do believe Redskins fans as a whole have over rated Cooley. We all love him...he plays hard...he is the type of player we want on this team. But trust me the rest of the league is not sitting around counting the minutes until Chris Cooley becomes a free agent.[/quote]

I think I heard that logic before. How did that work out between the Skins and Dockery?

The fact is that we have the cap room to re-sign him now and still do everything we want to in free agency and the draft. Canuck's cap sheets show us with 10 mil and the ability to free up 10 more. There is no reason to wait to get Cooley deal done. If they drag thier feet, and don't get a new deal done before the season, I expect Cooley will have no reason not to test the free agency market next year.

I hope they get the deal done in early april.

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I don't believe we should worry about signing Chris Cooley before training camp. Why? I can certainly understand wanting to open talks with him around mid season, but there is no sense in worrying about trying to sign him now. Like what someone else said, let him play out this contract first before putting more money on him. Now, he is definitely a valuable asset to this team and anyone who feels he isn't is smoking some major crack. He hasn't reached premier or superstar status as of yet, but he is definitely a guy you want on your team and I definitely want him back here for years to come.

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[QUOTE=GoSkins!;286608]I think I heard that logic before. How did that work out between the Skins and Dockery?

The fact is that we have the cap room to re-sign him now and still do everything we want to in free agency and the draft. Canuck's cap sheets show us with 10 mil and the ability to free up 10 more. There is no reason to wait to get Cooley deal done. If they drag thier feet, and don't get a new deal done before the season, I expect Cooley will have no reason not to test the free agency market next year.

I hope they get the deal done in early april.[/QUOTE]


Where did I say I didn't want to sign him? I want to sign him now...I just think we over rate him a bit and assume the league is licking it's chops to get him. I totally do not want Cooley to hit free agency...

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[quote=GoSkins!;286608]I think I heard that logic before. How did that work out between the Skins and Dockery?

The fact is that we have the cap room to re-sign him now and still do everything we want to in free agency and the draft. Canuck's cap sheets show us with 10 mil and the ability to free up 10 more. There is no reason to wait to get Cooley deal done. If they drag thier feet, and don't get a new deal done before the season, I expect Cooley will have no reason not to test the free agency market next year.

I hope they get the deal done in early april.[/quote]

Well put, GoSkins!

I don't think I'm understanding other's logic, when they state he's NOT PREMIER or OVER RATED A BIT?

This guy is TOP 8 statistically OR BETTER in ALL categories for TE in the ENTIRE NFL. What makes him overrated or not premier......????
His stats clearly speak for themselves. He's NOT overrated and he is a PREMIER TE in this league. A HUGE ASSET TO THE SKINS!

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I agree Cooley should be signed as soon as possible. He is the definition of a "Core Redskin" and deserves every bit of money that we give him.

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If Cooley has a monster year he will test the market next year. It is critical that this deal gets done ASAP. I couldn't stand seeing him in any other uniform. The guy has done alot and has won games for this team. If Gibbs lets him walk after the season i'll lose alot of respect for this organization. The team should do what the Bears players were doing for Lovie Smith..LOL. We'll just have to wait and see i suppose.

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Thats not how our front office works.They like to wait until the last minute.Then our players just test the market.I would not be surprised if we lose Cooley.I would be really really pissed,but they don't care what us as the fans think.

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[quote=Smurf85;286652]Thats not how our front office works.They like to wait until the last minute.Then our players just test the market.I would not be surprised if we lose Cooley.I would be really really pissed,but they don't care what us as the fans think.[/quote]

It does appear however from last year to this year the FO does seem to have a business plan and sticking to it. Which is GREAT to see.

Hopefully they are learning from all the mistakes of past. I would think CC is on the forefront of business as soon as we can finish a few more deals/FA.

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I think I understand the difference between "Superstar" and "Premiere". "Superstar" is someone who plays for Dallas or New England, acts like a jackass calling attention to themselves for any and every little thing they do, or whoever Peter King has a hard-on for. "Premiere" is all the other guys who do thier job and rank in the top 10 at thier position.

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just because you CAN free up another 10mill doesn't mean you should. when you restructure older players' base salaries to signing bonus, it just means high deadcap when they finally get released :/.

A TE franchise tag is only 4.5mill this year, and probably won't be much higher next year (unless gates gets a monster deal in the meantime, which is looming). It might even be better to use the space and jettison some dead weight now to give us more real room in the future...

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[quote=GoSkins!;286672]I think I understand the difference between "Superstar" and "Premiere". "Superstar" is someone who plays for Dallas or New England, acts like a jackass calling attention to themselves for any and every little thing they do, or whoever Peter King has a hard-on for. "Premiere" is all the other guys who do thier job and rank in the top 10 at thier position.[/quote]


I'm with ya GoSkin.
Peter King the Peter is an IDIOT!
How does PREMSTAR SOUND??? SIGN THE CAPT! HE DESERVES. :food-smil

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I understand everyone concerns seeing how the FO assumably mishandled re-signing Dockery before season's end. We did ink Betts in the same scenario and it's also likely that Dockery and his agent thought it would work in thier favor to test the FA market. It could've worked out in our favor too. I don't think Cooley will be as coveted as OL when his time comes to re-sign and thus he'll probably be more than willing to accept a deal (considering negotiations) to stay with the team.

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I've never understood why some people don't understand that the Redskins Front Office is not run by Don Corleone. It's not like they just say "I'll make you an offer you can't refuse" and if the player (Cooley in this case) doesn't sign there's a dead horse's head in their bed the next morning. I know there are a bunch of us here who just want us to re-sign every player we have right away. And if we don't we're some awful franchise. But sometimes no matter how good the offer there's only so much you can do. Loyalty is nice, but at what cost.

All that said, I hope we keep Cooley

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I keep seeing these things and I keep thinking this is Cooleys 3rd season wouldn't that make him a RFA next year? If you cannot come up with an aggrement slap him with the transition tag or franchise tag