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Let's just assume that Mark Brunell is released, where do the Skins go? Everyone knows that Joe Gibbs loves veteran backups. There will be a few guys available, I'd like to bring up a few Drew Bledsoe and Joey Harrington.

Last year was a bad year for Drew, but he can still play...a little. I don't think he's as bad as he played last year, but I think he'd be a decent insurance policy.

Joey Harrington, on the other hand, had the first good year of his career last year. He wasn't great, but he's not going to be a starter (we hope). I think he'd be a very quality backup.

The main reason I'm bringing them up is because either should come really cheap and not cost the frachise however much Brunell's going to. If Mark doesn't restructure, he needs to be released and then they need to look for someone not named Todd Collins.

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IF and thats a big IF Brunnell gets cut I think Trent green will be cut and I'd take him... He knows Saunders offense like the back of his hand and could make Campbell that much better. But I doubt brunnell will be cut

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i thought Todd Collins got better after each pre season game. lets stand pat. and bledsoe isn't going anywhere to be a backup. and Harrington flat out sucks

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Bledsoe sucks! He is a slow train wreck waiting to happen. There is a reason he is one of the most sacked, fumble prone and mistake waiting to happen QB. Parcells his mentor gave up on him this season.

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I don't know that Trent Green would be willing to come in and be a backup. I think there would still be a market for Trent as a starter and I really don't trust Gibbs with another QB who still has about 1/8 of a tank. If the Skins brought him in, I wouldn't know if it was to actually be a backup or to "compete" with Jason Campbell.

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Is Danny Wuerffel available?

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jdlea:

It was not all that long ago when folks around here were arguing that the Cowboys would stink in spades because Bledsoe couldn't play anymore. Some even argued that Patrick Ramsey was a better QB - in 2005 - that Bledsoe. Now you want to bring him here? Those folks will be all over you and you'll need to call 911 to get them off of you... :(


diehardskin:

IF Trent Green gets cut, he will be looking for a lot more money than what the Skins ought to be offering to pay a back-up QB - - unless of course they were to lead him to believe he had a shot at the starting job and could replace Campbell ... Sorry, this coaching staff would never do something like that. :nono:


dmek25:

The reason you think Harrington sucks is that he's actually played QB in a real NFL game sometime in the last few years. Maybe the reason you think Collins is adequate is that he hasn't been able to crack a line-up - starting or otherwise - for longer than your memory span? Just a thought... :confused:


saden1:

You- my man - have the right idea. And just in case Weurffel is "busy", we have the alternate answer to the problem right here in town. Heath Shuler has been elected to the Congress so he can sneak away for some practice time because the Congress doesn't exactly work 40 hours a week... :)

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what about joey harrington? if brunell is cut why not bring in a guy who is not the same age or older than brunell

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If Brunell is cut I think the worst thing we can do is to bring in some washed up name from yesteryear. Brad Johnson demonstrated here what can happen to a probowl qb (who would go on to win a superbowl) when you bring in another guy with designs on starting.

I say sign some scrub to play third string and bet the farm on Campbell.

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No brainer. I'd sign Tim Rattay.

Of course, I'd wait a year before cutting Brunell. Next year the dead cap will be even lower than this year, so its an economically smarter move.

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[QUOTE=sportscurmudgeon;279333]jdlea:

It was not all that long ago when folks around here were arguing that the Cowboys would stink in spades because Bledsoe couldn't play anymore. Some even argued that Patrick Ramsey was a better QB - in 2005 - that Bledsoe. Now you want to bring him here? Those folks will be all over you and you'll need to call 911 to get them off of you... :(
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I'm not really advocating a Bledsoe signing. I'd say it was a step back from Brunell, however, if he's cheap and available, I would say that he's better than Todd Collins right now. That represents an upgrade at the backup position. I would go with Bledsoe at #2 first. I think he's about the same as Brunell, if Brunell turned it over a whole lot more...lol. However, he won't have a huge cap number, I'd prefer Brunell just restructure, but if that doesn't happen they have to look elsewhere. I was presenting options.

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Drew Bledsoe??!! I'd take brunell with a termite infested wooden leg, fingers crazy glued together and blinfolded every sunday,before I would even consider the Blew Dredso-so.

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I look for the QB situation to remain pretty much the same. Brunell will restructure and back up Campbell, and Todd Collins will remain to do whatever it is he does, because I can't imagine his services's being in demand anywhere else.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;279339]what about joey harrington? if brunell is cut why not bring in a guy who is not the same age or older than brunell[/quote]


Harrington had a decent year last year. Bledsoe and Harrington want to be starters, neither is going to come here.

I would be shocked if Trent Green was dropped. It would be almost too good to be true, however, I guarantee if they sign Green that Campbell will not start in week one.

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for real I rather them get no one if brunnel goes and draft a guy like Chris Leak

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[quote=Longtimefan;279413]I look for the QB situation to remain pretty much the same. Brunell will restructure and back up Campbell, and Todd Collins will remain to do whatever it is he does, because I can't imagine his services's being in demand anywhere else.[/quote]

Yeah I agree.

Brunell's days as a starter in this league are over. He's not going to receive any interest out there, so his best case scenario is to be the backup here. He realizes this and he's basically already conceded that his best option is to stay here as the backup. I think they'll work out a restructure to keep him on.

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This is a meaningless thread because Brunell is not going to be cut. Every indication is he's coming back and they want him back.

So it's JC #1 and I would say Brunell #2 or Collins and Brunell will compete for #2.

All I gotta say is I hope JC stays healthy.

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I say we keep Brunell. As a backup, he can stay healthy and can come in and win a game for us. Collins has no history of success.

Brunell is effient and knows the system. We CAN win with him as long as the defense plays somewhat good, not like in 2006. He'll be fresh instead of banged-up and we can rely on him for a few games if needed. If we have to start Collins, we're screwed.

Besides, if we're going to have a down-the-field attack with Campbell, bringing in a QB with a completely different playing style can throw a defense off their game plan and film study and could be a big benefit to us. He'll be dumping passes off to a healthy Portis and he CAN throw deep to Moss if needed. He's not as bad as we all said he was when we were clamoring for Campbell to get a shot.

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[quote=skinsfan69;279534]This is a meaningless thread because Brunell is not going to be cut. Every indication is he's coming back and they want him back.

So it's JC #1 and I would say Brunell #2 or Collins and Brunell will compete for #2.

All I gotta say is I hope JC stays healthy.[/quote]


It's the offseason...without a majority of our threads being meaningless, we'd be bored!

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[quote=Buster;279537]It's the offseason...without a majority of our threads being meaningless, we'd be bored![/quote]

Very true. Thank god I have NFL Network.

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[quote=jdlea;279297]Let's just assume that Mark Brunell is released, where do the Skins go? Everyone knows that Joe Gibbs loves veteran backups. There will be a few guys available, I'd like to bring up a few Drew Bledsoe and Joey Harrington.

Last year was a bad year for Drew, but he can still play...a little. I don't think he's as bad as he played last year, but I think he'd be a decent insurance policy.

Joey Harrington, on the other hand, had the first good year of his career last year. He wasn't great, but he's not going to be a starter (we hope). I think he'd be a very quality backup.

The main reason I'm bringing them up is because either should come really cheap and not cost the frachise however much Brunell's going to. If Mark doesn't restructure, he needs to be released and then they need to look for someone not named Todd Collins.[/quote]

They won't be releasing MB!!

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I think Brunell will be the backup. I wouldn't mind only keeping 2 QBs on the roster with ARE acting as the emergency #3 QB.

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diehardskin:

If the Redskins actually drafted Chris Leak, do you think the Wash Post would have the chops to do a headline:


Skins Take A Leak In Round One

Just asking...

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Raiders just cut Aaron Brooks. Would you guys consider him?

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[quote=TAFKAS;279588]Raiders just cut Aaron Brooks. Would you guys consider him?[/quote]

No.

Maybe we could convert him to WR though?

;)

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;279590]No.

Maybe we could convert him to WR though?

;)[/QUOTE]

Or CB :cheeky-sm

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leak won't go in the 1st

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[quote=TAFKAS;279588]Raiders just cut Aaron Brooks. Would you guys consider him?[/quote]

YES!!!!!!!

He's got game experience, he had several good years in NO and he has much better skills than anyone behind JC.

Just becasue someone knows Al's system does not mean they get an automatic roster spot. That ridicules. I would bring him here in a heartbeat.

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[quote=skinsfan69;279623]YES!!!!!!!

He's got game experience, he had several good years in NO and he has much better skills than anyone behind JC.

Just becasue someone knows Al's system does not mean they get an automatic roster spot. That ridicules. I would bring him here in a heartbeat.[/quote]

NO!!!!!!!

He's stunk it up at every stop in his career. True, we wouldn't be starting him, but why bring in someone as a backup that has proven he's not an NFL quarterback? The point of a backup QB is not to just fill an open roster spot, it's to keep the team competitive if the starter is lost. Brooks can not do that.

Collins can't either.

Brunell can if healthy though.


Randel El as an emergency QB would be ideal. If we get down to him, we can always sign an unemployed QB...there are plenty of them. Rarely does a 3rd QB see the field anyways. This would also allow us to keep an extra DB on the roster...something we could've used last year.

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[quote=TAFKAS;279588]Raiders just cut Aaron Brooks. Would you guys consider him?[/quote]

This one is tough for me. The upside would be that Brooks is still young (31), and has played at a high level for a number of years (21+ TD passes in 4 out of his 7 seasons as a full time starter). Plus he has a similar skill set to JC - strong arm, pass first, but quick and elusive when necessary. And he'll never be cheaper than he will this offseason. You could have JC, Brooks, Collins in that order.

The downside is that Brooks has been interception prone, and just finished getting his ego shoved down his throat for a season with Oakland. There is a reason he has been cut two seasons in a row. Plus the times that Brunell plays terribly are when he wears down physically and gets knicked. If he is serving in a backup role, he'll be fresh if needed. Bringing back JC, Brunell, and Collins will give us 3 guys who are veterans of Saunders system. And Brunell is a respected leader in the locker room.

Flip a coin...

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[quote=Buster;279636]NO!!!!!!!

He's stunk it up at every stop in his career. True, we wouldn't be starting him, but why bring in someone as a backup that has proven he's not an NFL quarterback? The point of a backup QB is not to just fill an open roster spot, it's to keep the team competitive if the starter is lost. Brooks can not do that.

Collins can't either.

Brunell can if healthy though.


Randel El as an emergency QB would be ideal. If we get down to him, we can always sign an unemployed QB...there are plenty of them. Rarely does a 3rd QB see the field anyways. This would also allow us to keep an extra DB on the roster...something we could've used last year.[/quote]

I think he had a three or four year stretch in NO where he played ( to quote Norv Turner ) at a very high level. So what if he played bad in Oakland, and his last year in NO. What QB in the NFL could go into those situations and play well? All I'm saying is he has real nice ability, throws a great ball, has mobility and has game experience. So that sounds like a good back-up to me.

Brunell can if he stay's healthy?? Well what evidence do you have that shows he can stay healthy? He's been hurt every year he's been here, and he was hurt his last year in Jacksonville. He's coming off major shoulder surgery in a year where he played poorly. Why do you think Jacksonville gave him the boot? If he has to play for an extended period of time then we are going to have to go back to the dink and dunk offense. Yes Brunell probably won't loose the game, but he will do nothing to win it. And our defense isn't good enough anymore to carry the team. I like Brunell, but it's time to move on.

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[quote=skinsfan69;279644]I think he had a three or four year stretch in NO where he played ( to quote Norv Turner ) at a very high level. So what if he played bad in Oakland, and his last year in NO. What QB in the NFL could go into those situations and play well? All I'm saying is he has real nice ability, throws a great ball, has mobility and has game experience. So that sounds like a good back-up to me.

Brunell can if he stay's healthy?? Well what evidence do you have that shows he can stay healthy? He's been hurt every year he's been here, and he was hurt his last year in Jacksonville. He's coming off major shoulder surgery in a year where he played poorly. Why do you think Jacksonville gave him the boot? If he has to play for an extended period of time then we are going to have to go back to the dink and dunk offense. Yes Brunell probably won't loose the game, but he will do nothing to win it. And our defense isn't good enough anymore to carry the team. I like Brunell, but it's time to move on.[/quote]

Brooks DID have bright spots but ALSO made a lot of dumb plays that cost his team in those same games. He has hit his peak and that's not good enough to play in my opinion.

Brunell can stay healthy holding a clipboard. If he's the #1 and being hit every week, of course he'll break down...but as a backup, he can stay healthy. Not that tough of a concept to me.

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I'd look up Tony Banks before considering Aaron Brooks.

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[quote=Buster;279646]Brooks DID have bright spots but ALSO made a lot of dumb plays that cost his team in those same games. He has hit his peak and that's not good enough to play in my opinion.

Brunell can stay healthy holding a clipboard. If he's the #1 and being hit every week, of course he'll break down...but as a backup, he can stay healthy. Not that tough of a concept to me.[/quote]

But your thinking that he may not have to play. There is a chance that he may have to play. So wouldn't you want someone in who has the physical ability to play QB at an NFL level?

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[quote=Beemnseven;279648]I'd look up Tony Banks before considering Aaron Brooks.[/quote]

Banks is a solid back-up. No more, no less.

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Lets get serious Gibbs would rather cut off his right arm instead of cutting Brunell. Brunell is like his fav son.

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[quote=Beemnseven;279648]I'd look up Tony Banks before considering Aaron Brooks.[/quote]


Amen brother. Brooks WAS the problem in NO for a long time. Yes, when he was younger he had some flair but he's lost it now. Everytime he gets the ball in his hands he looks like a deer caught in headlights. Anybody watch ANY of the Raiders games where he played last year? Dude, he couldnt take a single ****ing snap without throwing it on the ground. And i do mean throw it. He sucks. As much as it hurts to say it, Aaron Brooks couldnt hold TODD COLLINS JOCK! AND I FRIGGIN HATE COLLINS! Aaron Brooks is a destructive parasite and we would be wise to pray every night that Mr. Snyder doesnt have some wacky dream about him winning us a SB or something, cuz then he's in and starting and were ****ed.

Brunell wont get cut BUT! I think either Tim Rattay or Harrington wouldnt be bad. Harringron is garbage but, with a halfway decent offesive line and a running game to back him up, he could come in and play a Brunell-esque role. Rattay is OK but he's getting a little older.

In short, Aaron Brooks should NEVER see another snap in ANY NFL game! I dont give a flying crap WHERE he plays, he should be legally banned from touching another football for the rest of his life. Anyone remember a couple years back when he was in NO and was under pressure and threw the ball BEHIND HIM! Im serious, he chucked the thing about 10-20 yards BEHIND him. Behind him. And you want him here? I think it's time to rethink the backup QB selection process.

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First of all I do not think Brunell will or should be cut, but in the case that he is I wouldn't mind seeing Trent Green come back, but this whole scenario is extremely unlikely IMO.

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[quote=JGisLordOfTheRings;279695]Amen brother. Brooks WAS the problem in NO for a long time. Yes, when he was younger he had some flair but he's lost it now. Everytime he gets the ball in his hands he looks like a deer caught in headlights. Anybody watch ANY of the Raiders games where he played last year? Dude, he couldnt take a single ****ing snap without throwing it on the ground. And i do mean throw it. He sucks. As much as it hurts to say it, Aaron Brooks couldnt hold TODD COLLINS JOCK! AND I FRIGGIN HATE COLLINS! Aaron Brooks is a destructive parasite and we would be wise to pray every night that Mr. Snyder doesnt have some wacky dream about him winning us a SB or something, cuz then he's in and starting and were ****ed.

Brunell wont get cut BUT! I think either Tim Rattay or Harrington wouldnt be bad. Harringron is garbage but, with a halfway decent offesive line and a running game to back him up, he could come in and play a Brunell-esque role. Rattay is OK but he's getting a little older.

In short, Aaron Brooks should NEVER see another snap in ANY NFL game! I dont give a flying crap WHERE he plays, he should be legally banned from touching another football for the rest of his life. Anyone remember a couple years back when he was in NO and was under pressure and threw the ball BEHIND HIM! Im serious, he chucked the thing about 10-20 yards BEHIND him. Behind him. And you want him here? I think it's time to rethink the backup QB selection process.[/quote]

Wow. So I guess your not a member of the A. Brooks fan club.

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The ONLY way I'd bring Aaron Brooks to this team is if I HAD to take either Brooks or Jeff George. Since that isn't nearly the case, I'd politely tell Brooks to look elsewhere for work...