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wilsowilso 11-26-2006 04:17 PM

C Rogers Give it up!
 
Great game. Most complete game I have ever seen from him. He looked really fast and more importantly confident. What gives?

70Chip 11-26-2006 04:21 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
Yeah. I thought he still played a little too far off in the first half, but he came up big in the second. The entire secondary played their best game of the year. Good pass rush without blitzing today as well.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 11-26-2006 04:21 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
He looked like a different player. If he continues to look like that, he'll justify being taken 9th overall. I hope it's not a fluke.

Redskins_P 11-26-2006 04:22 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
Well lets hope he keeps it up week to week....

dall-assblows 11-26-2006 04:22 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
i want to see consistancy

JankySpanky80 11-26-2006 04:24 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
Consistency is key over the last 5 games. We need Carlos to step up b/c Springs isn't gonna be here forever. Its Carlos's time. Just wanna see more Pics for him though.

wilsowilso 11-26-2006 04:29 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
Springs was very good today as well and of course STaylor was a monster.

Redskins_P 11-26-2006 04:31 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
Vernon Fox had a heck of a game today too.

In the end, the secondary as a whole played their best game of the season.

JankySpanky80 11-26-2006 04:32 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
[quote=wilsowilso;250839]Springs was very good today as well and of course STaylor was a monster.[/quote]

Yeah Shawn might be fully healed now. Great job on Steve Smith.

mooby 11-26-2006 04:36 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
The secondary had their best game of the season today. Hopefully this is the start of being a consistently good secondary.

soccercycbk 11-26-2006 04:46 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
Now don't get me wrong Carlos played one his best games all season, but I don't understand why the coaches were lining him up sooo far off Keyshawn. I mean Keyshawn Johnson?!?! This guy is a posession receiver he doesnt have any speed anymore..I could prlly keep up with him. We were basically giving them that option, and a number of times Delhomme just turned and quickly slung it to Keyshawn for an easy 5-6 yards. This guy was lined up so far back that Sean wasn't even coming over the top, he was coming underneath, and if it weren't for him Johnson would've had a much better game. It seems to me that a physical corner like Rodgers should have been playing him tight, allowing Sean to roam a little more, but nevertheless a great game by the secondary...where was this all year?? And how bout that Vernon Fox?? We need more guys with an attitude like his. He's always playing like he has something to prove and is a team first kind of guy.

Julius Peppers is a BEAST!!

pg86 11-26-2006 04:47 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
[quote=wilsowilso;250819]Great game. Most complete game I have ever seen from him. He looked really fast and more importantly confident. What gives?[/quote]
Somebody bitch slapped him during half time probably...or GW told him plain and simple get your shit together

Bdilla 11-26-2006 04:53 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
I was surprised by the play of Fox. Even beyond that pick he played really sound. Agreed though, Carlos the Cushion only gave up one first down catch of around five yards that I thought he should have played up on the line. Definitely made a couple great swats.

Daseal 11-26-2006 05:06 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
Gee, Imagine that. A great prospect but a 2nd year player showing signs of being great. No wonder we don't have any home grown talent, people won't allow it to grow.

freddyg12 11-26-2006 05:17 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
Maybe 1 reason was the pass rush. Best rush game by the front 4. Even if AC didn't get a sack, he got a few hurries & basically beat his man consistently enough that delhomme got rid of the ball early.

Other than that, I don't know what got into Rogers, other than sheer embarassment from watching film of all the soft plays he's had this year. I'll just chalk it up to growth, as Daseal mentions.

jdockser 11-26-2006 05:25 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
[QUOTE=Redskins_P;250843]Vernon Fox had a heck of a game today too.

In the end, the secondary as a whole played their best game of the season.[/QUOTE]


Vernon Fox proved that he should be playing over our 30 million dollar busted investment.

MTK 11-26-2006 06:40 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
Can Fox be our next Ryan Clark?

12thMan 11-26-2006 06:43 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
[quote=Mattyk72;250907]Can Fox be our next Ryan Clark?[/quote]


Let's hope so. It's only one game, well two for him..but you can tell Taylor feels more comfortable with him back there.

Fox just sorta fits the mold of one of those underachievers who plays extremely well within his role.

70Chip 11-26-2006 06:43 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
[quote=Mattyk72;250907]Can Fox be our next Ryan Clark?[/quote]


It seemed as though they had Fox playing centerfield. On his pick and another time he just stayed put and the ball came to him. I guess that's why they call them safeties. Too many times our guys back there are biting on moves and getting out of position. I like the 1 deep look.

CrazyCanuck 11-26-2006 08:06 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
[QUOTE=70Chip;250825]Yeah. I thought he still played a little too far off in the first half, but he came up big in the second. The entire secondary played their best game of the year. Good pass rush without blitzing today as well.[/QUOTE]

I agree he still plays too far off the ball but this was his best game of the year IMO. I'll give it up for the Cushion, maybe all hope is not lost.

railcon56 11-26-2006 08:16 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
[quote=Mattyk72;250907]Can Fox be our next Ryan Clark?[/quote]
On the post Game show Thats what Brian Mitchell and the boy's said...they said he played like Ryan clark and that helped the whole defense...

itvnetop 11-26-2006 08:30 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
where did this fox guy come from? it was like he immediately had an instant impact today...

hooskins 11-26-2006 08:40 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
[quote=itvnetop;251031]where did this fox guy come from? it was like he immediately had an instant impact today...[/quote]
[url=http://content.hamptonroads.com/story.cfm?story=114994&ran=139903&tref=rss]ARTICLE: Skins' special-teams standout has shot to make impact at free safety (The Virginian-Pilot - HamptonRoads.com/PilotOnline.com)[/url]

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace 11-26-2006 08:41 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
we need more guys named vernon

JWsleep 11-26-2006 08:44 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
Hey, Vern!

Carlos has his best game as a skin, IMO. My feeling is they played him differently today--more bump and run, more relying on his speed to stay with the WRs. And the Safties were properly placed today. I think they re-schemed some stuff there. BUt no doubt the line and the LBs did their jobs, stopping the run and getting pressure. That makes any DB look better! I am pro-Carlos. He's got the tools. He will be fine if they use him right and keep getting good line and LB play.

Pocket$ $traight 11-26-2006 08:52 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
It is a different ballgame when you are facing over-the-hill Keyshawn and Drew "Dropman" Carter.

Bottom line, the whole D played good today and deserves a lot of credit.

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace 11-26-2006 08:56 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
someone get vernon dean on the line...and that guy that ernest used to hang out with

itvnetop 11-26-2006 09:14 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
[QUOTE=hooskins;251036][url=http://content.hamptonroads.com/story.cfm?story=114994&ran=139903&tref=rss]ARTICLE: Skins' special-teams standout has shot to make impact at free safety (The Virginian-Pilot - HamptonRoads.com/PilotOnline.com)[/url][/QUOTE]

thanks man!

dall-assblows 11-26-2006 10:02 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
sean taylor doesn't feel as much pressure when playing with fox.

i hope we lock up fox and sean taylor for 5 year extension. although it is only 1 game together

WillH 11-26-2006 10:46 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
All season I have been saying this...Carlos Rogers is an exellent 2nd cornerback. He can take the Keyshawn Johnson's of every team outa the game, but without Springs when he was forced to cover the #1 reciever (wrs, by the way, nowhere near the calliber of S. Smith ) he struggled. Nevertheless, he had a great game.........mad props, I just hope that he can develop into the shutdown corner we need him to be when ole Springs in gone.

Im more impressed with the transformation of the dline, where did this vigor come from......also, is the Panthers oline any good? I have no idea myself.

PhxRedSkin 11-26-2006 11:01 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
The fact of the matter is that the Washington Redskins came today to play for dignity and pride. They did too. Minus some bung headed play calling from upstairs the team was good. The players were great! Hail to Victory!

Hail
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PhxRedSkin 11-27-2006 06:08 AM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
[quote=70Chip;250911]It seemed as though they had Fox playing centerfield. On his pick and another time he just stayed put and the ball came to him. I guess that's why they call them safeties. Too many times our guys back there are biting on moves and getting out of position. I like the 1 deep look.[/quote]

One game makes this guy Fox a hero? BTW please explain what a 1 deep look is. When LM gets the call from GW there are options. Well there are options for the men who can move in motion. DB's have option(s) to cover or "look" or to goto man or zone. BTW I did not see our guys "biting" on to many moves. CR made a couple mistakes, but he also probably played the best game of his life in the NFL. Fox is a hero? I bet you do not remember Sam Shade playing for us.

my heroes are in Iraq and Afghanistan
Hail
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Jason72 11-27-2006 08:35 AM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
Rogers looked very good yesterday. I think he had lost his confidence and got a little back yesterday. Getting burned so much early in the season had him not looking like the same player we saw last year. Hopefully the awful secondary play is behind us.

That Guy 11-27-2006 09:10 AM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
fox was a special teams player of the year for the lions (much harder to win league awards on a loser), so he's a hard worker. I was a bit surprised by how well he played, but after that showing, we should probably leave him back there and give him more time to prove himself, regardless of who comes back from injuries.

archuleta - 30$mill for a personal punt protector, and he can't even do that right.

rogers really stepped up today. hopefully he plays more like that and less like that other guy going forward.

firstdown 11-27-2006 09:42 AM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
[quote=soccercycbk;250860]Now don't get me wrong Carlos played one his best games all season, but I don't understand why the coaches were lining him up sooo far off Keyshawn. I mean Keyshawn Johnson?!?! This guy is a posession receiver he doesnt have any speed anymore..I could prlly keep up with him. We were basically giving them that option, and a number of times Delhomme just turned and quickly slung it to Keyshawn for an easy 5-6 yards. This guy was lined up so far back that Sean wasn't even coming over the top, he was coming underneath, and if it weren't for him Johnson would've had a much better game. It seems to me that a physical corner like Rodgers should have been playing him tight, allowing Sean to roam a little more, but nevertheless a great game by the secondary...where was this all year?? And how bout that Vernon Fox?? We need more guys with an attitude like his. He's always playing like he has something to prove and is a team first kind of guy.

Julius Peppers is a BEAST!![/quote]Maybe that was part of the game plan. Give them the easy 5 to 6 yard plays to Keyshawn and then the QB is not throwing to Smith who is the biggest threat of the big play. If that is true it worked great as we kept Smith in check most of the game.

SmootSmack 11-27-2006 09:47 AM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
I was really happy for Rogers yesterday. Feel like he let out a lot of frustration yesterday. Happy for TheMalcolmConnection as well, who has vociferously defended Rogers all season long

Meanwhile, give it up for The Ade for laying a vicious, perfectly-timed hit on special teams

TheMalcolmConnection 11-27-2006 09:50 AM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
HAHA! You should have seen me up there. Every time he made a play, I was like "THATS MY BOY. ROGERS IS M BOOOOOOOOOY!!!!"

MTK 11-27-2006 09:57 AM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
Ade's hit was great... gotta love the Ade!

RobH4413 11-27-2006 12:24 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
I def. did let out a giant "ADE!!!!!" roar.

He'll call a fair catch next time....

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Also, was it just me or did the o-line look stellar. JC had all day long, and when he didn't... he still made plays.

Great all-round win... Just for fun let's put on the rally caps and see what happends.

TheMalcolmConnection 11-27-2006 01:00 PM

Re: C Rogers Give it up!
 
I think it had to do with the tight end sets we were giving them. It was a great idea by Saunders to finally do something different. It worked against a great defense too!


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