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htownskinfan 10-11-2006 01:44 PM

Chiefs Cut Run Stopper,should We Take A Look?
 
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2621335]ESPN.com - NFL - Chiefs cut Dalton; DT might be hot property on market[/url]
should we sign this guy? he played here in 2003,I dont remember him

Pocket$ $traight 10-11-2006 01:46 PM

Re: Chiefs Cut Run Stopper,should We Take A Look?
 
[quote=htownskinfan;227146][URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2621335"]ESPN.com - NFL - Chiefs cut Dalton; DT might be hot property on market[/URL]
should we sign this guy? he played here in 2003,I dont remember him[/quote]

He has already been here and would be 6th on the DT depth chart. Why bother.

irish 10-11-2006 01:47 PM

Re: Chiefs Cut Run Stopper,should We Take A Look?
 
[QUOTE=htownskinfan;227146][url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2621335]ESPN.com - NFL - Chiefs cut Dalton; DT might be hot property on market[/url]
should we sign this guy? he played here in 2003,I dont remember him[/QUOTE]

Sure why not. Maybe the skins can even give him a $10 million signing bonus.

TheMalcolmConnection 10-11-2006 01:50 PM

Re: Chiefs Cut Run Stopper,should We Take A Look?
 
I think our rookies are playing pretty well. I don't think it's our defensive line that's the problem.

MTK 10-11-2006 01:51 PM

Re: Chiefs Cut Run Stopper,should We Take A Look?
 
Can he play corner? If not don't bother.

TheMalcolmConnection 10-11-2006 02:00 PM

Re: Chiefs Cut Run Stopper,should We Take A Look?
 
Speaking of corners, Springs has been running on his own, and could be available for some duty upcoming soon. He's supposed to be at practice today.

DaveyFoSho 10-11-2006 02:04 PM

Re: Chiefs Cut Run Stopper,should We Take A Look?
 
Yea golston has really stepped up!!! that was a great DRAFT PICK!!! should give the coaches a heads up...HEY draft picks can turn out like golston!

TheMalcolmConnection 10-11-2006 02:10 PM

Re: Chiefs Cut Run Stopper,should We Take A Look?
 
Not only him, Montgomery has been great against the run himself.

firstdown 10-11-2006 02:18 PM

Re: Chiefs Cut Run Stopper,should We Take A Look?
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;227151]I think our rookies are playing pretty well. I don't think it's our defensive line that's the problem.[/quote]Its part of the problem when they cannot presure the QB and give them all day to throw. Which makes it difficult for our cover men, which leads to first downs, which leads to time of possession, which leads to points, which limits our O's time on the field, which limits our chances of big plays, which limits our game plan, which limits our play makers, which limits the play calling. So it all leads back to our D line play.

Pocket$ $traight 10-11-2006 03:29 PM

Re: Chiefs Cut Run Stopper,should We Take A Look?
 
[quote=firstdown;227162]Its part of the problem when they cannot presure the QB and give them all day to throw. Which makes it difficult for our cover men, which leads to first downs, which leads to time of possession, which leads to points, which limits our O's time on the field, which limits our chances of big plays, which limits our game plan, which limits our play makers, which limits the play calling. So it all leads back to our D line play.[/quote]

Are you claiming that Lionel Dalton is going to help pressure the QB? From what I remember he was a starter on a horrible defense against the run and I don't remember him terrorizing any QB's either.

FRPLG 10-11-2006 03:52 PM

Re: Chiefs Cut Run Stopper,should We Take A Look?
 
Our DTs are the only positive on D so far this year. Well that's an over statement but not by much. We don't need another good run stopper. We have three already. We need someone who can cover a WR or sack the QB. He can do neither well.

mooby 10-11-2006 03:55 PM

Re: Chiefs Cut Run Stopper,should We Take A Look?
 
We don't need this guy, We have Griffin and Salave'a, and Golston and Montgomery have played suprisingly well for a couple of late round rookies.

chris36 10-11-2006 04:13 PM

Re: Chiefs Cut Run Stopper,should We Take A Look?
 
How about Golston on the end during running down. Carters end that is.

skinsttw 10-11-2006 04:59 PM

Re: Chiefs Cut Run Stopper,should We Take A Look?
 
Pass on Dalton-- we need a shut-down corner and some consistent pressure on the QBs

hooskins 10-11-2006 05:12 PM

Re: Chiefs Cut Run Stopper,should We Take A Look?
 
[quote=Mattyk72;227152]Can he play corner? If not don't bother.[/quote]

I love that avatar matty, showing your support for Brunell during tough times huh? I actually use to sport that avy like it was my job, but then the ST one that I rock came out, so I decided to sport it. I don't think too many people do so it works out. I guess that applies with your current avatar as well lol.

dall-assblows 10-11-2006 05:15 PM

Re: Chiefs Cut Run Stopper,should We Take A Look?
 
yet another 'lets give him a try' thread

RiggoRules 10-11-2006 05:21 PM

Re: Chiefs Cut Run Stopper,should We Take A Look?
 
I don't think Howie Long is under contract with anyone.

Big C 10-11-2006 08:30 PM

Re: Chiefs Cut Run Stopper,should We Take A Look?
 
i remember the one sack dalton got for us for some reason. it was like a stunt and he ran up the middle after our guy picked the 2 o-linemen there and he got a clean shot...dalton isnt the answer for this defense and he has already had a stint here not too long ago.

Beemnseven 10-11-2006 08:51 PM

Re: Chiefs Cut Run Stopper,should We Take A Look?
 
As of this week, the Redskins are #13 against the run.

Here's what the defense has allowed in each game so far:

vs. Vikings = 86 yards rushing
@ Dallas = 138 yards rushing
@ Houston = 61 yards rushing
vs. Jaguars = 33 yards rushing
@ Giants = 155 yards rushing

When good opponents commit to the run against us, they can ram the ball down the Redskin's throat. Against bad teams, and teams that don't really commit (like the Jaguars, only 15 attempts) they seem to be able to stop the run.

I don't think Dalton would have much of an impact either way.

And as much as I'd like to believe they've found diamonds in the rough with Golston and Montgomery, if you look at the roster, when Salave'a was injured, there was nobody else left to play the position.

EternalEnigma21 10-11-2006 08:55 PM

Re: Chiefs Cut Run Stopper,should We Take A Look?
 
I've seen Golston make numerous plays and he seems to fit our scheme. We try to play in the opponent's backfield, not just take up space at the line of scrimmage. We could recruit the dropouts from "The Biggest Loser", too. They'd be cheaper and just as effective as dalton...

What was the name of that X-Raider that we signed after he got out of prison??? I wonder what happened to that guy? What the hell was his name?

SmootSmack 10-11-2006 09:07 PM

Re: Chiefs Cut Run Stopper,should We Take A Look?
 
[QUOTE=canthetuna;227344]I've seen Golston make numerous plays and he seems to fit our scheme. We try to play in the opponent's backfield, not just take up space at the line of scrimmage. We could recruit the dropouts from "The Biggest Loser", too. They'd be cheaper and just as effective as dalton...

What was the name of that X-Raider that we signed after he got out of prison??? I wonder what happened to that guy? What the hell was his name?[/QUOTE]

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_Russell_(football_player]Darrell Russell (football player - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url])

Beemnseven 10-11-2006 09:16 PM

Re: Chiefs Cut Run Stopper,should We Take A Look?
 
How about Daryl Gardener? He was gangbusting that one year ...

EternalEnigma21 10-12-2006 05:24 PM

Re: Chiefs Cut Run Stopper,should We Take A Look?
 
On December 15, 2005, Russell was a passenger in a car driven by former USC teammate Michael Bastianelli when it veered out of control, hitting a curb, trees, a newsstand, a fire hydrant, a light pole and an unoccupied bus. Both men were found unconscious and taken to area hospitals, where they were pronounced dead



Wow... I remember seeing the crash, and hearing it involved football players, but I never knew it was that guy... RIP

REDSKIN1 10-12-2006 05:36 PM

Re: Chiefs Cut Run Stopper,should We Take A Look?
 
If Golston keeps it up he might earn a starting position next year. I really don't think Dalton will help out. Maybe if he was a DE. On the other hand the Bills just released Troy Vincent. He may be worth looking at. He's coming from the Bills where, I think he lead them in tackles last year. Plus our secondary coach knows him. What do you guys think?


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