After the loss to the Bengals has your season outlook changed at all?
 

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Nah. Of course DURING the game, I was like, "Sonofabitch. The season is over." but then I remember that it's JUST preseason. Provided Portis comes back with no problems, we'll be fine.

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Not at all. Hopefully Brunell is not having 2004 arm troubles. Some of those passes looked weak.

After watching Campbell play, I feel more comfortable with him as our future than ever before. Not that he played lights-out awesome but he looked like he knew what he was doing.

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i am still expecting big things but its obvious the o needs lots of work. all of the qb's threw int's and we couldn't run at all.

on d, our backups really stank up the joint, especially #25 wright.


on a positove note, espy looked good and i also thought the backup o-lineman pass protected well.

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I voted no, but cause for concern.

Portis injury could mean a slow start to the season for him and the offense. Remember, he has to get use to the new system as well, even though a RB's curve is not as bad as a QB's.

Preseason or not Brunell looked shakey, even though those throws were great!

Collins is a fish out of water man, Campbell has never taken a snap in a real game, QB depth is not looking good.

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[quote=gibbsisgod;203291]i am still expecting big things but its obvious the o needs lots of work. all of the qb's threw int's and we couldn't run at all.
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on d, our backups really stank up the joint, especially #25 wright. [/B][/I]


on a positove note, espy looked good and i also thought the backup o-lineman pass protected well.[/quote]

Everyone is saying this. Did he give up anything other than that TD?

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I'd say there is cause for concern. Most of our backups looked pretty lost out there, and that's on top of the fact that there were plenty of injuries.

Obviously the Portis thing worries me quite a bit even if he doesn't need surgery. I feel like a shoulder injury is something that can can hamper him all season long. He may be more hesitant to take the hit and it may be more likely that he fumbles if he's holding the ball with his left.

Also, Brunell worried me a bit because his throws were off by a good bit. The nice pass that Lloyd made could have goen for a TD if it wasn't so far over his head. Brunell also missed Lloyd long later in the game. And then there was the INT. I still say Brunell was trying to throw the ball away.

I'm also concerned b/c I just got royally screwed out of my tickets for the first game. Can anybody help me out here?

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I'm really not concerned at this point. It's tough to judge anything after the first preseason game. We're talking about a game with vanilla packages, little to no gameplanning, and the starters playing very little.

The third preseason game is the true test.

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We'll be fine.

I think Portis will be fine, too. Hell, if Emmitt Smith can play with a seperated shoulder, CP should be good to go. Pound for pound, he is one of the toughest RBs in the league. Look at the bright side. At least the injury isn't severe and we know that he won't get hurt more during preseason.

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TMC, if I remember right Wright got fooled on that first flea-flicker as well.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;203294]Everyone is saying this. Did he give up anything other than that TD?[/quote]wright was abused all night long. morton and patterson looked much better. at one point the bengals qb threw at #25 4 times in a row i think and completed 3 of them for a first down every time

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Damn. Just wondering because I was thinking he had played a decent game.

The only reason I'm slightly concerned is because most of the other NFC East teams starters looked pretty solid.

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[quote=Hog's Breath;203298]We'll be fine.

I think Portis will be fine, too. Hell, if Emmitt Smith can play with a seperated shoulder, CP should be good to go. Pound for pound, he is one of the toughest RBs in the league. Look at the bright side. At least the injury isn't severe and we know that he won't get hurt more during preseason.[/quote]

These are my thoughts as well. Portis does not need the work and now he will have a month to get well before Minnesota. I pray and hope he will be fine by then. He can still run around and do walk thru's for the next month. Hey, the only thing last night told me is that our backups are not as good as theirs. Our starting D looked unbelievable!!!

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Don't forget how solid we looked a couple of years ago versus Tampa Bay in the preseason game under Steve Superior.

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he'll be fine. i'm not worried about a preseason game.

in fact, i hate the preseason games. they should just only do the scrimmages. maybe 2 preseason games...

what do you guys think?

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Not worried about the stellar three points we put up on the scoreboard. Not even worried about Collins' pi$$ poor outing considering all the pressure and the safety came when back-up O-linemen were protecting him. I thought the back-up line settled down well as the game went on.

Too early for season predictions (even if, god forbid, Portis has to miss the first 5-6 weeks of the season).

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Collins looked like crap and should be the third qb. Campbell looked good but raw. McCume, Rocky, and Skyes were the only defensive 2nd stringers I liked. There was to many arm tackles very sloppy!

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It is hard to make judgements based on such a game. Our starters played little and even the main backups were rotating in and out with a bunch of guys who wont be on the team. I am no less pumped than before. As long as Portis can be treated and get back to 100% I feel ok.

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The offense looked a bit rusty but did you see that sick catch Loyd made heck yeah. Portis will hopefully be back and we will be fine. Besides did you see how sick our starting defense looked? they looked nasty and Taylor knocked the snot out of his second running back Rudi Johnson. After that interception they lost what like 20-30 yards took them all the way back to the 50 yard line. Defense looks GOOD!!!!! In the few plays they played.

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The only thing that disappointed me (besides the injury to Portis) was how awful Todd Collins looked.. WOW! He was beyond bad. Barring catastrophic injuries to the OL we should be fine. 1st teams looked very good IMO. I would HATE to be a backup OL or defensive player today at the next practice.. Bugel and Williams are going to KILL them!

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No big deal. Been-gals beat us in Preseason last year and we made the playoffs.

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The D looked good & Campbell did too.
Brunell is our man, but he still scares me at times when he's under pressue. He doesn't throw the ball away well on his heels. Some qbs can get rid of it w/only their back foot on the ground, brunell can'ts. Timing in the new offense will probably be an issue for at least the first 1/3 of the season.

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!st preseason game, the latest team into camp, new offense, lots of new FAs, most of the game used to evaluate UDFAs and long shots... no, I am not worried.

The only thing is Portis, and we'll see about that. injuries are part of the game, eveyone has them.

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not at all. Only if clinton is going to miss some time. I wonder when they will get to us about the MRI. I have yet to sleep. I dont' want to sleep till i know.

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The scoreboard last night was a non-factor.

Positives:

* Dominant 1st team D
* Rocky McIntosh
* Mike Espy
* Lloyd's big catch
* Jason Campbell's poise, arm and limited mistakes

Negatives

* Portis injury (which was led to by....)
* Lloyd's busted play (is that 700 page play book too complicated?)
* Todd Collins
* Backup O-Line
* Backup secondary

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I remember two years ago we looked electric in the preseason opener against Denver, and then we ended up going 6-10. Last year we looked bad for a lot of the preseason and made the playoffs. That being said, it worries me that our unit doesn't loook more cohesive at this stage of the game. Disregarding the score, Cincinatti just looked much more polished. Granted, we are attempting to implement an entirely new offensive system. Still, the season is pretty soon....

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Guys we went 1-3 last preseason, and we made the playoffs. Granted the situation was a bit different last year, we continued to suck during the season till the later half, and this year the thing about the preseason is to gauge the new offense, I still feel this game doesn't have much we need to worry about except Portis's injury.

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No.

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[quote=RiggoRules;203363]The scoreboard last night was a non-factor.

Positives:

* Dominant 1st team D
* Rocky McIntosh
* Mike Espy
* Lloyd's big catch
* Jason Campbell's poise, arm and limited mistakes

Negatives

* Portis injury (which was led to by....)
* Lloyd's busted play (is that 700 page play book too complicated?)
* Todd Collins
* Backup O-Line
* Backup secondary[/quote]


I have to be in agreeance. I thought our first stringers looked great, but there was a great decline when we put in our second string teams. Brunell has me a bit unnerved, short-hopping a couple of balls and the int..., but we'll see.

Todd Collins looked like danny werfull, only worse. They kept tearing up Kenny Wright... he looked lost and one step behind. Not a very fun night for football, but I was happy with Campbell's performance, at least against the third stringers. I'd really like to see him start a game and play with starters against starters (in the preseason) to see what he can do.

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I think we'll be fine. As long as portis comes back ready to go. But even if he misses a week or two I think that Mr Betts is up for the job in his stead.

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I agree with everyone as well. I think we will be fine, as long as Todd Collins never ever has to take a snap in the regular season. He reminded me of Jay Schreader (dont think i spelled that right) or Rypien when he was still new. The first unit Defense is NASTY. They could carry us a long way alla The Ravens a few years ago. I think Brunnel and Campbell looked ok. Please everyone pray for CP's recovery. All in all a typical pre season game. I knew there was a reason I never really watched PRE SEASON. I think I might go back to my old ways and get ready to go to FED EX on the 11th and watch the guys who actually make the team.

Oh yeah , Epsy and Mcintosh looked good. Rocky will be starting by the 5th game of the year or so. HAIL

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As long as we dont have any major injury problems that linger throughout the season (obviously we'll have some here and there) but if there is nothing major, I think our starting 22 players could be a couple of the best units in football with alot of really good role players.

Our depth however, could kill us. I mean I know its early so alot of the guys that looked bad yetserday were either rookies, or still new. The one guy i'm concerned with is Kenny Wright. I think Ade Jimoh is going to push him a little bit to get better cause Jimoh played well last season.

That being said, I'm not too worried. The Bengals had all their sucess (outside of the Brunell pick) after our starters were out. I think the Campbell/Collins competition for backup qb could get heated, cause I was impressed with Campbell. I think with more time in the pocket, he could be deadly.

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AND if you give him a decent line.

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We'll be good to go. We could go 0-4 and I wouldn't feel any differently, unless someone went down for the season. In fact, without checking stats here, Gibbs has taken a winless preseason team to the Super Bowl. Makes you wonder. If we come out reasonably healthy, we'll be good.

The defense got penetration early and often. Taylor will be a beast. And suprisingly Holdman looked like he knew where he was supposed be to as did Rocky.

Man - Campbell, what a hose. This kid could very well crack the line up this year, injury to Brunell or not. The more reps gets, the better he'll be.

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im not worried at all. the only negative was the injury. our first teamers, both offense and defense, played fairly well( other than the brunell interception)

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Injuries are the only concern, aside from the need to get Kenny Wright a flame-retardant jersey. That said, he played decently. I think the team competed, and the offense showed just enough. I'd feel better if they were able to finish off some of those drives, but it's early.

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Brunell was trying to throw that ball out of bounds but was also trying to avoid the sack. he will learn and we will be okay I beleive, up to that point our offense looked pretty good.

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We simply have little to no depth on our team right now which is a huge cause for concern. Can we win if some important cogs go down? It hasnt changed my outlook on the season, of course I refuse to call any team that's made the playoffs once in how many years a Super Bowl contender till I see some regular season action.

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[quote=Daseal;203456]We simply have little to no depth on our team right now which is a huge cause for concern. Can we win if some important cogs go down? It hasnt changed my outlook on the season, of course I refuse to call any team that's made the playoffs once in how many years a Super Bowl contender till I see some regular season action.[/quote]

I think our depth is indicative of the parody of the league. We see how shitty our second stringers are, because we follow the Skins. I think you'd be hard pressed to find teams in this league that are happy with their depth. That being said, our lack of O-Line depth got exposed last night

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Gibbs press conference at 5:45 PM today. All our questions will be answered. (?3?)