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Who else thinks this is the most annoying story this offseason and even over the past few offseasons. I mean make up your mind already. He is one of the great ones to play quarterback but this is ridiculous. He calls a press conference for today (Saturday) and announces that he still has not made up his mind. The T.O. situation was annoying as well but at least things changed and there was always different things happeneing. Brett needs to make up his mind so he and the Packers can move on while we can stop hearing about it.

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[quote=SkinsLove24/7]Who else thinks this is the most annoying story this offseason and even over the past few offseasons. I mean make up your mind already. He is one of the great ones to play quarterback but this is ridiculous. He calls a press conference for today (Saturday) and announces that he still has not made up his mind. The T.O. situation was annoying as well but at least things changed and there was always different things happeneing. Brett needs to make up his mind so he and the Packers can move on while we can stop hearing about it.[/quote]

He's coming back, and I think the NFL knows it. They are billing the Week 16 Vikings Packers game as Brett Favre's last home game.

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the pack should make the decision for him and let his ass go

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If I were Brett, I'd probably hang it up. I believe he can still get it done, but the Packers barely even tried to put a winning team on the field last year. They get rid of one of the best guard tandems in the league and then don't really do anything after people started getting hurt. They didn't add anyone over the offseason. What is his motivation? They haven't showed the same committment to winning that he has. There is no reason for him to come back, he's proven all he can prove and this team is going to bad this year.

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this retirement drill has gone on every offseason recently, and its stupid and annoying. I don't see what the big deal is and why it takes so long every year.

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this is nowhere near as annoying as the T.O. crap

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You have to assume he is going to play or he F'd his team time and available players to replace him.

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He is not coming back. The packers have not done much off season improving for him to wan to come back.

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I am so sick and tired of his shit already. Call a press conference and announce you haven't made up your mind? WTF? I hope his ass retires.

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[quote=SkinsLove24/7]Who else thinks this is the most annoying story this offseason and even over the past few offseasons. I mean make up your mind already. He is one of the great ones to play quarterback but this is ridiculous. He calls a press conference for today (Saturday) and announces that he still has not made up his mind. The T.O. situation was annoying as well but at least things changed and there was always different things happeneing. Brett needs to make up his mind so he and the Packers can move on while we can stop hearing about it.[/quote]

He calls a press conference every year at his celebrity golf tournament. He never said it was to announce his decision. That part was speculation by the press.

Lay off Brett. He's had more than his share of tragedy over the past few years and he's earned a little time to consider what he wants to do. Admittedly, it's tough for the Packers to plan a draft, but that's life. He could be hit by a bus the day after the draft and the team would be in the same boat.

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well i want him to come back~ he was my favorite player when I was younger and lived in ohio.

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I could care less if he comes back. The NFl does not need Favre as much as he needs the NFL. He is just having trouble understanding that. Just walk away dude. The Pack is gonna be bad again this year. Why waste a year and get hurt? It's pointless.

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I want to ask one thing: How is it when Brett Farve becomes addicted to Pain Killers, everyone views it as a tradgedy and horrible,but when,Let's say Randy Moss, has a little Mary Jane, every wants to call him a thug?

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[QUOTE=Bushead]I want to ask one thing: How is it when Brett Farve becomes addicted to Pain Killers, everyone views it as a tradgedy and horrible,but when,Let's say Randy Moss, has a little Mary Jane, every wants to call him a thug?[/QUOTE]

I don't really judge a whole lot of players for things like that. That said, you probably weren't referring to me. However, as far as tragedy, he's had a lot more go wrong for him than just an addiction to painkillers, which I'm sure you know.

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[QUOTE=jdlea]I don't really judge a whole lot of players for things like that. That said, you probably weren't referring to me. However, as far as tragedy, he's had a lot more go wrong for him than just an addiction to painkillers, which I'm sure you know.[/QUOTE]

Tragedy is part of life. My grandfather died a couple of months ago. I miss him but life goes on. There is nothing especial about Favre's circumstances besides him having 10 million more in his bank account if he decides to stay. Personally, I hate indecisiveness...make a decision already!

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[quote=Bushead]I want to ask one thing: How is it when Brett Farve becomes addicted to Pain Killers, everyone views it as a tradgedy and horrible,but when,Let's say Randy Moss, has a little Mary Jane, every wants to call him a thug?[/quote]

I think of Randy Moss as a thug because he tried running over a police officer with his car; because he threw a full water bottle at an official; because Notre Dame had to pull his scholarship when he got involved in a racially-motivated fight in high school; because he never fails to find a way to embarrass himself and his team.

I don't give a crap about his nugs, but the guy does need to grow up.

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Well, if it's so annoying to everyone, don't pay attention to it. I'm not saying that tragedy makes it okay for him to take this long. I think the fact that he's one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time gives him the right to take so long making this decision. They weren't going to get a QB in free agency, they have Aaron Rogers. And if you think that I'm wrong, you're lying to yourself. This team won't even address obvious needs. I don't think that Favre thinks the NFL needs him in any way.

I would agree that it's not good for his team to take this long making the decision, but he doesn't tell people to ask John Clayton and Mort to see what his decision will be. It's the intrigue of everyone else that's causing this. I'm sure it's frustrating to the Packers organization and Packer fans, but the fact is, he's one of the best to ever play the game, so people give him a pass. I don't begrudge him in the least for wanting to make sure that he makes a decision he won't regret.

While I'm sure people will tear this apart cause you don't like Salisbury, Sean Salisbury was talking about what it was like to decide to retire. He said, "You're damn right you miss it. You'll never 100% sure you made the right decision. That's just something you have to deal with, I understand why it's taking him so long and I wish I had evaluated this heavily." At least it was something very close to that, back around the time of the Super Bowl. That comes from a guy who was holding a clipboard about 90% of the time. It's not an easy decision to make and the Packers aren't making it any easier.

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[QUOTE=saden1]Tragedy is part of life. My grandfather died a couple of months ago. I miss him but life goes on. There is nothing especial about Favre's circumstances besides him having 10 million more in his bank account if he decides to stay. Personally, I hate indecisiveness...make a decision already![/QUOTE]

And, I just wanted to ask you, would you have showed up for work like 2 days after your father died? Cause I know for one, that I damn sure would not have, but Favre went out and had an amazing game.

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[QUOTE=jdlea]And, I just wanted to ask you, would you have showed up for work like 2 days after your father died? Cause I know for one, that I damn sure would not have, but Favre went out and had an amazing game.[/QUOTE]

Fortunately I haven't had to deal with my father passing away. I did, however, go to a job interview and then to work the day after finding out my grandfather passed away and I was certainly very close to my grandfather. I sent 5 years living with him and my grandmother from age 4 to 9.

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Hey you guys are forgetting a few things. First of all the Brett Farve has recently experienced the following:

1. The death of his father
2. The death of his brother in law on his property in some sort of ATV accident
3. His wife being diagnosed with Brest Cancer
4. His family became stranded by Katrina with no power for weeks. He also lost his childhood home.

and finally
5. The last bastian of pleasure and joy he had left in his life, the Green Bay Packers, have gone from automatic NFC North Champs to Bottom Dwellers.

Plus lets not forget the fact that before he was drafted he got in a career threatining car accident. The fact that he has become the NFL's ironman, painkillers or not, with an injury that made docs advise him to hang up his cleats might make him comprable to my childhood hero Cal Ripken.

Bret Farve has been through a lot of shit in his life. And for a bunch of people to just pile on and say stuff like well hes rich and this happened to me is bull. Hes never asked for sympathy and everytime somethings challenged him hes toughed it out. The only reason it recieves so much attention is because hes Bret Farve, NFL Legend for the leagues most storied franchise (in the medias eyes) not because he gets up on the podium at press confrences and cries like a little bitch.

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He got a huge free pass by the NFL and media on the pain killer thing. If he was not white he would have gotten killed by the media.

He has had a stretch of tragedy thats awful but he is being selfish with the decision. Let go already, you and you're team have slipped. You are rich, accomplished and have a family. Do the right thing and don't go out like a prize fighter...all punchy and disabled. Be with your family, friends and let your team rebuild.

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[quote=STPainmaker]He got a huge free pass by the NFL and media on the pain killer thing. If he was not white he would have gotten killed by the media.

He has had a stretch of tragedy thats awful but he is being selfish with the decision. Let go already, you and you're team have slipped. You are rich, accomplished and have a family. Do the right thing and don't go out like a prize fighter...all punchy and disabled. Be with your family, friends and let your team rebuild.[/quote]

Dude, pulling the racial card is just ridiculous. People still cheer for guys like Dexter Manley to stay clean. Why? Because he was a stud on the field and he was generally a good guy. Koren Robinson? He's being admired for his determination and the way he has turned around his life and pushed out his addiction. Brett Favre has EARNED his admiration. Of course people are aware of his issues, but like Dexter and Koren, it is a personal problem that people hope he can overcome. In general, I think the media respect addiction problems and don't beat guys up too badly over it unless it gets/can get others hurt (e.g. DUI, gun involvement).

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just remember with stpainmaker,its always either black or white.

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[QUOTE=dmek25]just remember with stpainmaker,its always either black or white.[/QUOTE]

While I don't agree with painmaker's assessment that this is a black or white issue, I think you're confusing him with ST21. This is the first time, that I can recall, that painmaker has mentioned race as an issue on any subject.

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I think that you all are blinded by the bonus he gets if he hangs onto his indecision a little while longer.

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People say the Favre career cant be tarnished, but over the past year or so I have been shocked by just how selfish this guy has been. Yes he did play after several tragic deaths in his family, props for that. But first the comments about not wanting to mentor Arron Rogers, now this whole retire/dont retire BS. He needs to man up and think of the team and the fans at some point. Go out with a little dignity man

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[quote=SamSneed36]People say the Favre career cant be tarnished, but over the past year or so I have been shocked by just how selfish this guy has been. Yes he did play after several tragic deaths in his family, props for that. But first the comments about not wanting to mentor Arron Rogers, now this whole retire/dont retire BS. He needs to man up and think of the team and the fans at some point. Go out with a little dignity man[/quote]

Amen

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[quote=dmek25]just remember with stpainmaker,its always either black or white.[/quote]

You must have confused me with someone else. I really do feel though he got a huge free pass on that thing.

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tafkas,you are right.stpainmaker i apoligize

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[quote=SamSneed36]People say the Favre career cant be tarnished, but over the past year or so I have been shocked by just how selfish this guy has been. Yes he did play after several tragic deaths in his family, props for that. But first the comments about not wanting to mentor Arron Rogers, now this whole retire/dont retire BS. He needs to man up and think of the team and the fans at some point. Go out with a little dignity man[/quote]

Totally! Great Post. Brett is taking me from huge fan to view him as rather T.O.ish with all the drama. What next, on the Red carpet with Joan and Melissa????????

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[QUOTE=STPainmaker]He got a huge free pass by the NFL and media on the pain killer thing. If he was not white he would have gotten killed by the media. [/QUOTE]

Last time I checked Bill Romanowski didn't get a pass and he was white. You know what else? Ray Lewis got a free pass on the whole murder thing too. No body cars about Randy Moss' off the field activity. It's his on field activity that bothers people (i.e. throwing tantrums and leave the field before the game ends).

Anywho, lets not play the race card. Regardless of color Favre (ala Micheal Jordon) is a media darling and that's all there is to it!

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I also agree with that post living in Milwaukee I hear it every day and even packer Die hards are losing respect, everyday on the news it Brett hasn't decided yet, getting so old. I admit he's a great player but I soured on him ever since the I wont help Aaron Rodgers bit, And instead of saying things like "I aint coming back unless they get better" really make me question the love he has left for the game

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He should just hang it up.

The Packers are simply not a team that is going to be able to compete for much at all this year.

They're in rebuilding mode and even though they have a ton of cap space, they've barely used it.

They're clearly planning on rebuilding through the draft and they aren't interested in reloading for one last shot with Favre.

Hang it up Brett, helluva career, first ballot HOF for sure.

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[quote=PFunk26]I also agree with that post living in Milwaukee I hear it every day and even packer Die hards are losing respect, everyday on the news it Brett hasn't decided yet, getting so old. I admit he's a great player but I soured on him ever since the I wont help Aaron Rodgers bit, And instead of saying things like "I aint coming back unless they get better" really make me question the love he has left for the game[/quote]

The Aron Rodgers thing Chapped me as well. He cannot do anything positive from here. As MK pointed out, he need to retire "a great player" and be remembered in a positive light--------while he still can

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Brett Favre doesn't want to play for Green Bay anymore; he wants to play, but for a winning team. The management of Green Bay doesn't want to be accused of trading the greatest player in franchise history, so they put the ball in Brett's court. Brett is probably hoping that if he holds out long enough making a decision that somehow it will be politically viable for the management to trade him.

It would be a win win for everyone if they trade Brett. I hope they find the courage to do it.

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favre doesn't want to be traded, he wants to be cut. That way he doesn't have to play, but he can blame it on someone else. He knows GB is a loser. He's already said there's no way he'd play for anyone else.

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[quote=That Guy]favre doesn't want to be traded, he wants to be cut. That way he doesn't have to play, but he can blame it on someone else. He knows GB is a loser. He's already said there's no way he'd play for anyone else.[/quote]

That's pretty insightful, Guy. Brette wants to be cut - it's becoming more and more appearant that he really wants the decision to be made for him.

I'm not sure that he would play the role of the of the victim if they cut, but is it possible that he has now become accustomed to tradgedy and sympathy?

What ever the case nay be, the thing that rubbed me the wrong way about Brette was how he handled the whole Javon Walker thing....one year removed, Javon will continue his career after returning from injury without the contract that he demanded, and yet Brette walks off into the sunset with his millions.

My point is, since he voiced his opinion on Javon coming back to the team, which he did, I think Brette should now step up and ask management to renegotiate Javon's contract. Furthermore, he felt Javon's team "needed him to be in camp"...in other words, be a professional and do right by your team. By him dragging all this out he's seems sorta of guilty of pulling a similiar act.

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[QUOTE=PFunk26]... I soured on him ever since the I wont help Aaron Rodgers bit ...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hog1]The Aaron Rodgers thing Chapped me as well.[/QUOTE]


Brett Fav-rey is a schmuck and I can't wait to see his mopey ass go, but I actually agree on his stance with Aaron Rodgers. It's not his job to "help" Aaron Rodgers -- that's what coaches are for. The whole 'players mentoring younger players' is a crock. Players are there to compete for the starting job and win it. Not to groom their eventual replacements.

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Right, I mean that's what coaches are supposed to do: coach. It's not like Favre has some kind of deep down secrets that he dared not share with the coaches. The coaches will know most, if not all, of what Favre would teach a youngster.

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Farve just retire please!! So we can stop talking about this.