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[IMG]http://www.kffl.com/images/hot_sign.jpg[/IMG][B]Panthers | Team lands K. Johnson[/B]
Thu, 23 Mar 2006 17:57:44 -0800
Clarence E. Hill Jr., of the Star-Telegram, reports the [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/10/nfl"]Carolina Panthers[/URL] have agreed to a four-year deal with free agent WR [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/1836/nfl"]Keyshawn Johnson[/URL] (Cowboys). Johnson received a $5 million signing bonus.



so he's not going back to the cowboys, which is a good thing. he does make the panthers better though.

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Ha ha ha ha ha. He is old and can't back up anything that comes out of his mouth. I am surprised that the Panthers would sign T.O. without the talent. They must be worried about their stagnant team.

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he's still a good receiver and a good #2. he can put up 800 yard seasons and blocks on running plays. He'll also be a HUGE upgrade over what they had, and they can still stick drew carter in the slot.

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I don't think this is a bad move. He's not a great player, obviously, but everyone knows that. He comes is an upgrade to that receiving corps which was a lot like ours last season. They had Steve Smith and everybody else. Now, Keyshawn's not gonna go for 1200 yards, maybe not even 1000 but he won't be bad with Smith and he'll take pressure off of Keary Colbert who better step up.

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Steve Smith and Key...which is no different from Steve Smith and Moose.

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[B]Panthers | K. Johnson contract update[/B]
Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:03:12 -0800

Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports the four-year contract Carolina Panthers WR Keyshawn Johnson signed was worth $14 million.

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I was thinking that Keyshawn is their way of getting a guy like Muhsin, but he's nowhere near the receiver Mushin is at this point in his career compared to Keyshawn.

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moose is better than key, though both are on the downside. they are somewhat alike on the field.

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Ummm. Has anyone forgotten how this guy acts on the sidelines? Why would you want that out of a good player let alone a mediocre one.

Hey That guy, remember, 34, downside of his career etc...

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[quote=That Guy]he's still a good receiver and a good #2. he can put up 800 yard seasons and blocks on running plays. He'll also be a HUGE upgrade over what they had, and they can still stick drew carter in the slot.[/quote]

So in other words he is an old Rod Gardner. Good to know.

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Keyshawn is a jackass, but he is a very solid veteran and he is still one of the elite blocking wide recievers in the NFL. People tend to overlook that aspect of his game. This is a great pickup for Carolina.

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[quote=wilsowilso]Keyshawn is a jackass, but he is a very solid veteran and he is still one of the elite blocking wide recievers in the NFL. People tend to overlook that aspect of his game. This is a great pickup for Carolina.[/quote]

Great pickup? So you think the Redskins should have signed him since they run the ball a lot and he would have been much cheaper than Randle-El.

This is insane...

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Didnt MESHAWN play for the Panthers O.C. before in new york? If so then this is a good pick up by the cats, he should already know the system and be a WR ready to contribute to the O...

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[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper]Great pickup? So you think the Redskins should have signed him since they run the ball a lot and he would have been much cheaper than Randle-El.

This is insane...[/QUOTE]
I dont think that he ment it that way, he was just saying that for the panthers Johnson was a good pick up... I didnt see anywhere, where he said that the Redskins should have signed him instead of Randle-El...

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Well if it is a "Great pickup" for a team that went further in the playoffs than the skins. How would it not be a "Great pickup" for the Skins?

Keyshawn is a bum plain and simple. He is a cancer in the locker room and he opens his mouth when he shouldn't. He was relevent in Tampa Bay.

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Did you want him on the skins or something? Look at what is left at the WR postition via FA. What were the panters supposed to do? Draft another useless WR (K. Colbert) and try to bring him along or hope that he can play right out of college? Incase you didnt notice it generally takes a WR atleast 3 years to catch up in the NFL, also, incase you didnt notice the Redskins ( Randle-El, Lloyd), Titans (D. Givins), and Browns (J.Juravisious) pretty much picked the WR part of FA apart and K. Johnson is what is left over...

Overall, no matter how you want to look at it, Johnson is going to help the Panthers...

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How does Keary Colbert get that much worse? 700+ yards in his rookie year. 200+ yards in his sophmore. I guess with Steve and Keyshawn you'll get a good 1-2 punch or possibly motivate Keary Colbert to revert back to his rookie form (which he should have been building upon). The way I figure someone on Carolina is going to get 700+ yards from the #2 spot. So good move Carolina.

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[quote=Grim21Reaper]Great pickup? So you think the Redskins should have signed him since they run the ball a lot and he would have been much cheaper than Randle-El.

This is insane...[/quote]


What are you talking about?

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[quote=Grim21Reaper]Great pickup? So you think the Redskins should have signed him since they run the ball a lot and he would have been much cheaper than Randle-El.

This is insane...[/quote]

No complaints about our signings here. My opinion was that Keyshawn can really help Carolina. I guess you disagree.

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keyshawn can help them on the field.could become a hugh distraction off of it

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[quote=wilsowilso]What are you talking about?[/quote]

I am pointing out the holes in their logic. I think that Keyshawn is an overrated bum who is on the downside of his career. He is a locker room cancer who will not help any team that wants to contend. Apparently everyone else thinks that he would be a good addition to a team that was one step away from the Superbowl. Well I think that all of them are wrong.

Keyshawn is mediocre and his baggage makes him a net negative.

Can you follow that wilso? If you cannot follow the thread pipe down.

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I live in Charlotte, about 10 minutes away from Bank of America Stadium and you should hear the radio shows down here this morning. Keyshawn is great, Keyshawn is one of the best. I can't believe how excited these people are for getting a 34 year old possession receiver. Steve Smith was on the radio basically saying, I'll get mine, he'll have to settle for what ever is left. There will be problems with these two. Steve Smith is good as long as he gets the ball. He made a comment last year when they lost, well I caught my 10 for 120+ and 2TDs. So now when his 10 become 4 or 5, hes going to cry like a baby. Anyway, Keyshawn in my backyard, not good. I sometimes run into a player or two during the season, I hope its not this loser.

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[quote=Grim21Reaper]Ummm. Has anyone forgotten how this guy acts on the sidelines? Why would you want that out of a good player let alone a mediocre one.

Hey That guy, remember, 34, downside of his career etc...[/quote]

blah blah blah, he's filling an obvious need. You think carolina WR situation was good last year with steve smith and no one else?

unlike sam adams, they desperately need a WR, and he came pretty cheaply for his talent level. did you see carolina play last year with the one man receiving corp?

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[quote=Grim21Reaper]So in other words he is an old Rod Gardner. Good to know.[/quote]

do you actually watch football? rod gardner drops passes left and right, KJ doesn't.

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[quote=Grim21Reaper]Great pickup? So you think the Redskins should have signed him since they run the ball a lot and he would have been much cheaper than Randle-El.

This is insane...[/quote]

who else at KJ's talent level is still on the market? we got younger receivers already and no one here said he would have been a great pickup for us.

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[quote=Grim21Reaper]Well if it is a "Great pickup" for a team that went further in the playoffs than the skins. How would it not be a "Great pickup" for the Skins?

Keyshawn is a bum plain and simple. He is a cancer in the locker room and he opens his mouth when he shouldn't. He was relevent in Tampa Bay.[/quote]

maybe because different teams have different needs, and at the time KJ signed he was the best available WR left (and still filled a glaring need). I don't know what the problem is with seeing that.

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[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper]I am pointing out the holes in their logic. I think that Keyshawn is an overrated bum who is on the downside of his career. He is a locker room cancer who will not help any team that wants to contend. Apparently everyone else thinks that he would be a good addition to a team that was one step away from the Superbowl. Well I think that all of them are wrong.

Keyshawn is mediocre and his baggage makes him a net negative.

Can you follow that wilso? If you cannot follow the thread pipe down.[/QUOTE]
A mediocre Keyshawn on the downside of his career with his baggage is still more talented than any of the sub-mediocre WR's that the panthers have...

After S.Smith, they might as well as bring in the local high school WR's and they would be just a productive as any of the other WR's on the panthers roster. Which one of the Panthers WR's do you expect to step up? Is it Colbert, Carter, Samp, Cherry, Hankton, or that savy 17 year vet Ricky Proehl...

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[quote=Grim21Reaper]I am pointing out the holes in their logic. I think that Keyshawn is an overrated bum who is on the downside of his career. He is a locker room cancer who will not help any team that wants to contend. Apparently everyone else thinks that he would be a good addition to a team that was one step away from the Superbowl. Well I think that all of them are wrong.

Keyshawn is mediocre and his baggage makes him a net negative.

Can you follow that wilso? If you cannot follow the thread pipe down.[/quote]

maybe he's not the one that should pipe down.

KJ had 839 yards last year, he's NEVER had less in a full season. the panthers #2 had 440 yards with a better QB. that means this i an upgrade that should help the team. I know you don't like the baggage, but please list all the remaining WR FAs that'd give them 800+ yards this season (as cheaply).

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[quote=That Guy]maybe he's not the one that should pipe down.

KJ had 839 yards last year, he's NEVER had less in a full season. the panthers #2 had 440 yards with a better QB. that means this i an upgrade that should help the team. I know you don't like the baggage, but please list all the remaining WR FAs that'd give them 800+ yards this season (as cheaply).[/quote]

Yes, but statistics are unreliable .... LOL :laughing2

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I absolutely hate Keyshawn, and if I was a Panthers fan I'd be pissed that my team picked him up because I'd rather lose without him than win with him.

That said, as a neutral observer and football fan, the move vastly improves their WR situation. I hate the guy, but given their terrible WR corp., they now have something they simply didn't before: a legit #2 WR.

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[quote=PSUSkinsFan21]I absolutely hate Keyshawn, and if I was a Panthers fan I'd be pissed that my team picked him up because I'd rather lose without him than win with him.

That said, as a neutral observer and football fan, the move vastly improves their WR situation. I hate the guy, but given their terrible WR corp., they now have something they simply didn't before: a legit #2 WR.[/quote]

These people down here are considering this one of their best free agent pickups in franchise history. I am not joking!! That is all that was on the radio down here yesterday and today. Yesterday it was he's at the airport, at the stadium, there negotiating we'll break in if he signs or any news. Its freaking horrible when you get that excited of a guy with his baggage.

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[quote=#56fanatic]These people down here are considering this one of their best free agent pickups in franchise history. I am not joking!! That is all that was on the radio down here yesterday and today. Yesterday it was he's at the airport, at the stadium, there negotiating we'll break in if he signs or any news. Its freaking horrible when you get that excited of a guy with his baggage.[/quote]

that's crazy. he's an upgrade, but i'm not sure he merits parade treatment ;)

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[quote=Grim21Reaper]I am pointing out the holes in their logic. I think that Keyshawn is an overrated bum who is on the downside of his career. He is a locker room cancer who will not help any team that wants to contend. Apparently everyone else thinks that he would be a good addition to a team that was one step away from the Superbowl. Well I think that all of them are wrong.

Keyshawn is mediocre and his baggage makes him a net negative.

Can you follow that wilso? If you cannot follow the thread pipe down.[/quote]

I'm pretty sure I can follow your logic. If that's what you call it.

Keyshawn is mediocre you say? This statement is not supported by the facts or in this case hard stats. He does have baggage so you got half of your equation right.

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[quote=wilsowilso]I'm pretty sure I can follow your logic. If that's what you call it.

Kewshawn is mediocre you say? This statement is not supported by the facts or in this case hard stats. He does have baggage so you got half of your equation right.[/quote]

Why would they go out and pay a aging 34 year old receiver, with ALOT of baggage, to be the #2 guy. Why not go out and get a younger receiver who you can put beside smith and grow for few more years. There were better receivers out there, and WR was one of the most glaring needs this team needed to address. Much like us. Yet they sign a couple DTs backup lineman then a over the hill, Diva WR. I cant stand the Panthers, or their fans, they are fair weather fans. they show up half way through the 1st quarter and leave before the game is over. Not a lot of tailgating. I can not wait until we come down here next year(2007 season) and beat that ass. I hope a lot of skins fans show up for that one.

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[quote=#56fanatic]Why would they go out and pay a aging 34 year old receiver, with ALOT of baggage, to be the #2 guy. Why not go out and get a younger receiver who you can put beside smith and grow for few more years. There were better receivers out there, and WR was one of the most glaring needs this team needed to address.[/quote]

please name this younger receiver that'd be gauranteed to not suck next year and is still available.
Also keep in mind, he's getting 3.5mill a year, which is far less than the guys we got, and that Joe J wasn't considering carolina in any way.

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What is K. Colbert and D. Carter?

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[quote=#56fanatic]Why would they go out and pay a aging 34 year old receiver, with ALOT of baggage, to be the #2 guy. Why not go out and get a younger receiver who you can put beside smith and grow for few more years. There were better receivers out there, and WR was one of the most glaring needs this team needed to address. Much like us. Yet they sign a couple DTs backup lineman then a over the hill, Diva WR. I cant stand the Panthers, or their fans, they are fair weather fans. they show up half way through the 1st quarter and leave before the game is over. Not a lot of tailgating. I can not wait until we come down here next year(2007 season) and beat that ass. I hope a lot of skins fans show up for that one.[/quote]

Ok let's get this straight. In my first post I said Keyswan was a jackass, but he will really help Carolina at the #2 spot. There were a bunch of other receivers out there that would have been younger and better, but the cheap ass owners for Carolina decided on Keyshawn. He is a solid upgrade IMO. All I know about Carolina fans is that many of them used to be Redskin fans.

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yes he definitely will help carolina. not a great receiver but hes a huge upgrade over whatever #2 they have as it is.

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If anything Keyshawn will give them a reliable receiving threat other than Smith. Honestly I've always thought that's what the Panthers have been lacking. Great offensive line, just no wide receivers other than Steve Smith.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]If anything Keyshawn will give them a reliable receiving threat other than Smith. Honestly I've always thought that's what the Panthers have been lacking. Great offensive line, just no wide receivers other than Steve Smith.[/quote]

Their O-Line was not that good last year, especially at run blocking, pretty decent at pass blocking. I have a philosophy where I dont like signing old guys. Some agree , some dont. I just think there may have been better options than Keyshawn. Carolina is one of those teams concidered to be high revenue, that because of teams like us supplying the income, but they still dont put the money out in the players. Actually, they put alot of money in players that they shouldn't (Dan Morgan-always injured , Deshaun Foster - cant stay healthy as a part time player) I am not a carolina fan. i do think he will help take some pressure of Steve, but w/ Colbert getting healthy and another year, I think he could have been just a good.