Predict our first major player acquisition
 

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When the curtain finally raises on free agency, the Redskins' first acquisition (either through free agency or trade) will be...

WR Antwaan Randle El
WR David Givens
WR Isaac Bruce
LB Julian Peterson
LB Will Witherspoon
DE John Abraham
DE Darren Howard
DE Trevor Pryce
CB Ty Law
CB Nate Clements
S Adam Archuleta
DT Rocky Bernard
Other

Please note I'm just tossing some of the bigger names out there, so don't get in an uproar if you think a certain player isn't on our radar.

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Complete guess but I'd say they go OLB and get Witherspoon. Position of need and a quality guy so he fits well. And looking at the other players and their positions I don't see as much urgency based on what's available. I think they'll take a shot at Bruce and give a call to Randle-El but wont over spend in either case. A deal for Abraham would probably take some time and everyone else seems like a lower priority type guy.

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Zack Mills.

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Does anyone know if Rocky Bernard is a tweener DT who can play both DT and DE?

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]vote and discuss

When the curtain finally raises on free agency, the Redskins' first acquisition (either through free agency or trade) will be...

WR Antwaan Randle El
WR David Givens
WR Isaac Bruce
LB Julian Peterson
LB Will Witherspoon
DE John Abraham
DE Darren Howard
DE Trevor Pryce
CB Ty Law
CB Nate Clements
S Adam Archuleta
DT Rocky Bernard
Other

Please note I'm just tossing some of the bigger names out there, so don't get in an uproar if you think a certain player isn't on our radar.[/QUOTE]


darren howard by a whisker over isaac bruce... both on the first day

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How the hell did Bernard get 8.5 sacks last year at DT?

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[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]Does anyone know if Rocky Bernard is a tweener DT who can play both DT and DE?[/QUOTE]

Possibly from the sounds of this

[quote]Bernard has above average athletic ability, good quickness and strength. He has good agility, lateral movement and initial quickness of the ball. He has an explosive first step, he has good change of direction skills and he plays with decent leverage. He does a good job of anchor the point of attack when he plays low. He does a good of shooting the inside gap and he can be disruptive in the backfield. He does a nice job of keeping his feet down the line, he takes good angles while pursuing the ball and he has good overall speed for a defensive tackle. He has good power and strength to push the pocket on pass rush. He keeps his feet moving and he has good closing speed to the QB. However, Bernard motor does not run full speed all the time, he not consistent in his effort and he lacks a good work ethic and does not bust his ass to the ball all the time. He plays high when he is tired and lineman is able to get under his pads and knock him off the ball. He is undersize and will get engulf when he does not play with good technique. He does not have a variety of pass rush moves and if he can not beat you with his first step, he gets stalemated at the line of scrimmage. Overall, Bernard will make plays when he fresh. He is a good backup who can come off the bench and give your starters a rest with quality reps. He is a good overall pass rusher that will get your attention when he is fresh. His upside is he is young and he should only get better with more experience.[/quote]

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i was thinkin koren robinson but hes not on there

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[QUOTE=bigm29]i was thinkin koren robinson but hes not on there[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't call him a big name. No one is going to give him big money.

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Ryan Clark will be resigned before 12:01 friday. I think we'll see the skins signing archuleta, and soon after Sam Adams. We'll make the trade Ramsey for Abraham later in the week. Tod collins will be signed soon after. As for reciever I can't decide between Bruce, Bryant, Robinson or David Givens. Trevor Pryce is an interesting pick up but I think he'll go back to denver he did the same thing last year

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[QUOTE=diehardskin2982]Ryan Clark will be resigned before 12:01 friday. I think we'll see the skins signing archuleta, and soon after Sam Adams. We'll make the trade Ramsey for Abraham later in the week. Tod collins will be signed soon after. As for reciever I can't decide between Bruce, Bryant, Robinson or David Givens. Trevor Pryce is an interesting pick up but I think he'll go back to denver he did the same thing last year[/QUOTE]
Sam Adams? For what he would cost is he really much better than Joey S? I doubt we have any interest there.

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he played under williams before and I don't think he will cost that much... especially if to players we look like a serious contender

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[QUOTE=diehardskin2982]he played under williams before and I don't think he will cost that much... especially if to players we look like a serious contender[/QUOTE]
I just don't see spending the money with what amounts to a depth pickup. Maybe if he languishes and costs us nothing but he'd have to be ready to sit. Joey S has done a quality job for us and is younger I think.

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I am betting we pick up CB Andre Dyson - he's a former Titan (though may not go back all the way to when GW was there) and a solid corner. This year's Walt Harris but a better corner.

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A Free Agent Warning

Once upon a time a promising young LB named Pierce was excited about getting a shot at starting in the upcoming season, but unfortunately his team signed an overpriced veteran free agent named Barrow instead. Barrow is still on our cap and never played a down in the regular season (ironically his cap number was a big reason we couldn't afford to resign Pierce the following year). Not only did it turn out that we already had someone who could fill that role but actually we had 2 people who eventually both excelled at that position.

Moral of the story is: Promote from within. Have faith in your coaches and avoid overpaying free agents!

We need to sign our own FA's (especially Clark) first, then if it isn't a WR or DE we have no buissiness talking to them - OK, maybe a veteran OLineman for depth to replace Brown. Everything else can be shored up in the draft! For once we don't have alot of needs.

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hmm what about a receiver? wouldnt that be a good choice. hmm come to think of it is ole sticky fingers 50/50 Gardner still out there? or is he still with the packers?

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I like Akin Ayodele....Can play strongside or weakside LB and is very fast can line up as a DE. Was second in 03 and 04 in tackles and was jacksonville man of the year nominee in 03. He would allow Marshall to stay in the middle[MLB] and leave Washington SLB and Ayodele to weak! I think he fit in great in a GW Defense! I don't know if this would be a first move but it would be a good one!

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[QUOTE=RedskinPete]I like Akin Ayodele....Can play strongside or weakside LB and is very fast can line up as a DE. Was second in 03 and 04 in tackles and was jacksonville man of the year nominee in 03. He would allow Marshall to stay in the middle[MLB] and leave Washington SLB and Ayodele to weak! I think he fit in great in a GW Defense! I don't know if this would be a first move but it would be a good one![/QUOTE]

I was about to post the same thing. I like him too. Though I think we might be able to wait a bit. See what the market is for guys like Peterson and Witherspoon...and LaVar...first

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i went with archuleta, solely because we havent re-signed ryan clark yet, and we are expected to cut bowen, so that leaves a huge hole at SS. archuleta would fill that. shortly after i think we will add some OLB depth

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I voted other I think that we may go after A. Bryant or K. Robinson. Which both would not bother me at all, then maybe we go after a DE or someone for help in our secondary. We may go after Giviens too, either way I dont see us going after and really "big" name player unless Gibbs and or GW thinks that the player will fit with the team...

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I think they go after Peterson to replace Arrington somewhat strongly or maybe that's who I'm just hoping they go after strongly, but it could also easily be either Bruce, Givens, or Abraham or the sleeper of Hutchinson if I haven't missed something about him being resigned by Seattle.

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[QUOTE=Big C]i went with archuleta, solely because we havent re-signed ryan clark yet, and we are expected to cut bowen, so that leaves a huge hole at SS. archuleta would fill that. shortly after i think we will add some OLB depth[/QUOTE]

We should go after Tank Williams...then we can have a Rock and a Tank!...and an Ethan

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[QUOTE=skinsfanthru&thru]I think they go after Peterson to replace Arrington somewhat strongly or maybe that's who I'm just hoping they go after strongly, but it could also easily be either Bruce, Givens, or Abraham or the sleeper of Hutchinson if I haven't missed something about him being resigned by Seattle.[/QUOTE]

Peterson has been ok out here for the 49ers but never reached that top LB and the money will be high. I think Akin Ayodele would cost less and get better player!

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[QUOTE=RedskinPete]Peterson has been ok out here for the 49ers but never reached that top LB and the money will be high. I think Akin Ayodele would cost less and get better player![/QUOTE]

he just seems to me to be the smart, speedy multi-dimensional olb that Williams could do some things w/while teamed up with Marshall and Washington.

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Here is my wish list and not in any order

LB-Akin Ayodele

WR- Randel-El [to much money]....Antonio Bryant [Gibbs makes him a star and he gets payback to Cowboys]

CB-Ahmed Plummer

G-Tonin Fonoti

OT-Tom Ashworth

DE-Aaron Kampman

S-Chris Hope

These would be great Redskins and all are good guys with the exception of Bryant but I think he has grown up after only four years in the NFL. I think Gibbs could make this guy a star! Yes I know we can get them all but here are some players that will make us great!!!

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[QUOTE=skinsfanthru&thru]he just seems to me to be the smart, speedy multi-dimensional olb that Williams could do some things w/while teamed up with Marshall and Washington.[/QUOTE]

:towel: That is the way I see it as well!!! :towel:

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[QUOTE=diehardskin2982]Ryan Clark will be resigned before 12:01 friday. I think we'll see the skins signing archuleta, and soon after Sam Adams. We'll make the trade Ramsey for Abraham later in the week. Tod collins will be signed soon after. As for reciever I can't decide between Bruce, Bryant, Robinson or David Givens. Trevor Pryce is an interesting pick up but I think he'll go back to denver he did the same thing last year[/QUOTE]
Agree. No Abraham though.

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[QUOTE=diehardskin2982]Ryan Clark will be resigned before 12:01 friday. I think we'll see the skins signing archuleta, and soon after Sam Adams. We'll make the trade Ramsey for Abraham later in the week. Tod collins will be signed soon after. As for reciever I can't decide between Bruce, Bryant, Robinson or David Givens. Trevor Pryce is an interesting pick up but I think he'll go back to denver he did the same thing last year[/QUOTE]

Man Dude I hope your right, I could live with those picks.........I think the sensitive people here think I want to pay T.O. money to some old player, just bring in a solid #2, because Jacobs is Garbage and Patten is a #3

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QB Zack Mills.

:Smoker:

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you are smoking something if you want zach mills here?forget about signing archeluta,just resign clark.i would prefer picking up abrahams as the skins one and only big signing.lets keep our cap house in order to avoid future cap diaster

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[QUOTE=skinsfanthru&thru]he just seems to me to be the smart, speedy multi-dimensional olb that Williams could do some things w/while teamed up with Marshall and Washington.[/QUOTE]

I could swear that I've heard in the past that he's a local guy and has said that he would love to play for the Skins. I know that really doesn't mean much when there are actually millions of dollars on the line, but maybe he'd be willing to work out a good deal just to play here. (Why do I put so much faith in these players?)

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I hope we don't go after big name players. As a general rule, that's a formula for wasting cap money.

We need to find bargains. C. Griffin and M. Washington were not big names before they came here because both played on poorly coached, lackluster defensive units. Both are still in their prime and came in healthy.

We need more like them.

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[QUOTE=BrudLee]QB Zack Mills.

:Smoker:[/QUOTE]

You think we can afford him?

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I dont see anyone mentioning Chris Hope, safety from pittsburg. he is far better than Archaletta(forgive the spelling) or Jevon Walker. We need a big receiver, not another 5-10 180lb guy. which is what Randel el, givens, ect are. Walker is like 6-3 over 200lbs and young.

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bruce and peterson will be good enough for me

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[QUOTE=bertoskins]bruce and peterson will be good enough for me[/QUOTE]

Dude, again stop w/ the Isaac Bruce stuff. He is way past his prime, not worth the vet minimum. we dont need another small receiver especially one his age.

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[QUOTE=Huddle]I hope we don't go after big name players. As a general rule, that's a formula for wasting cap money.

We need to find bargains. C. Griffin and M. Washington were not big names before they came here because both played on poorly coached, lackluster defensive units. Both are still in their prime and came in healthy.

We need more like them.[/QUOTE]

I agree wholeheartedly, so who are some guys like that?

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darren howard for one. i mean hes well known, but hes also one of those guys, like griffin, who hasnt reached their full potential yet

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[QUOTE=#56fanatic]Dude, again stop w/ the Isaac Bruce stuff. He is way past his prime, not worth the vet minimum. we dont need another small receiver especially one his age.[/QUOTE]

I TOTALLY disagree with this. Bruce knows our system, he played under Martz for several years who is a disciple of the Gibbs offense. The guy could come right in and run solid routes for us. I wouldn't pay a lot for him because as you say he is old, but he is still an effective receiver. It was only one year ago that he had 89 catches and 1292 yards. Last year he missed 5 games, got nagged by injuries all season, and Martz was sidelined. I wouldn't pay a lot for him given that we could get a David Givens for pretty cheap, but Bruce would be able to come in and assimilate our offense very quickly. He knows the Saunders style offense already.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]I TOTALLY disagree with this. Bruce knows our system, he played under Martz for several years who is a disciple of the Gibbs offense. The guy could come right in and run solid routes for us. I wouldn't pay a lot for him because as you say he is old, but he is still an effective receiver. It was only one year ago that he had 89 catches and 1292 yards. Last year he missed 5 games, got nagged by injuries all season, and Martz was sidelined. I wouldn't pay a lot for him given that we could get a David Givens for pretty cheap, but Bruce would be able to come in and assimilate our offense very quickly. He knows the Saunders style offense already.[/QUOTE]

he knows the style of offense, and i think he could contribute, but would you rather go after someone else?