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SmootSmack 03-05-2006 07:04 PM

Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
This could all be moot considering the CBA situation, but thought I'd share this. Especially since it's the only place I've seen this and am actually a bit surprised by the interest, if true.

"That might be easier said than done. Archuleta should command fairly large money in a free agent market where big money will be a relative term depending on the collective bargaining agreement. [B]Washington has showed plenty of interest in Archuleta already [/B] and there is some other teams hoping to make a play for him."

[url]http://www.stlouisrams.com/article/53197/[/url]

44deisel44 03-05-2006 07:14 PM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
That would be GREAT!..Ask that guy if he can work out the details.

That Guy 03-05-2006 07:25 PM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
not without a roster dump truly unworthy of making for one player :/

we'll see what shape we're in tonight.

That Guy 03-05-2006 07:27 PM

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Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-05-2006 07:29 PM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
I can't see it happening. Assuming, generously IMO, that we got $9 million from the restructured deals and can save another $10 million by cutting guys like Noble, Harris, Ramsey, Hall, Tupa, Thrash, etc. we still need another $3 million to get under the cap and have room to sign draft picks. I have no clue where we would get the other money. The 30% rule makes it even more likely that it would be impossible to sign a guy of Archuleta's caliber. Finally, teams like Green Bay and Arizona would likely outbid us.

But, who knows, I could be totally wrong. That's just my 2 cents.

That Guy 03-05-2006 07:52 PM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]I can't see it happening. Assuming, generously IMO, that we got $9 million from the restructured deals and can save another $10 million by cutting guys like Noble, Harris, Ramsey, Hall, Tupa, Thrash, etc. we still need another $3 million to get under the cap and have room to sign draft picks. I have no clue where we would get the other money. The 30% rule makes it even more likely that it would be impossible to sign a guy of Archuleta's caliber. Finally, teams like Green Bay and Arizona would likely outbid us.

But, who knows, I could be totally wrong. That's just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]

we have a lot of money in filler... 69 people currently making 235-460k each. frost and brown combine is almost a million by themselves.

steveo395 03-05-2006 07:55 PM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
[QUOTE=That Guy]we have a lot of money in filler... 69 people currently making 235-460k each. frost and brown combine is almost a million by themselves.[/QUOTE]
they dont count towards the salary cap....only the top 52 money makers count

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-05-2006 07:56 PM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
[QUOTE=That Guy]we have a lot of money in filler... 69 people currently making 235-460k each. frost and brown combine is almost a million by themselves.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I know. But based on our (both yours and mine) estimates of the salary cap situation over the past few days, I think we can both agree that it would be very tough to sign someone like Archuleta. I say that knowing that I don't know precisely how much the restructured contracts saved us.

In any event, I don't really care for Archuleta. The guys is a force in stopping the run but has been suspect in coverage. Given that Williams likes versatile players, I'm not sure why we'd go after Archuleta. But then again, maybe Williams IS interested in Archuleta and knows that his coverage skills are better than I am giving him credit for.

That Guy 03-05-2006 07:59 PM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
[QUOTE=steveo395]they dont count towards the salary cap....only the top 52 money makers count[/QUOTE]

if you ditch one, the next one starts to count. so if you have to do like the titans and have under 53 players on your roster, thats a lot of cuts. brown at 460k is definately in the top 52 though. most of the 310k guys are too.

STPainmaker 03-05-2006 09:20 PM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
Archuleta is extremely overated. The guy is a great athelete we saw him in the combine and all that but he is not good in coverage. I'm very skeptical about the skins going after him. I hope its not true.

jordanz301 03-05-2006 10:16 PM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
[QUOTE=STPainmaker]Archuleta is extremely overated. The guy is a great athelete we saw him in the combine and all that but he is not good in coverage. I'm very skeptical about the skins going after him. I hope its not true.[/QUOTE]


you must be crazy dude, archuleta is a ball hawk out there id love for this guy to be in burgundy and gold. his coverage WAS suspect his 1st two yrs in the nfl but has gotten much better. not only that but i have the utmost respect for this guy this guy came out of high school with zero scholorship offers not a damn cent. he was a walk on at arizona and flourished since then he became a first round draft pick. i guess i have a biased opinion b/c i use his training video & methods for my training "freak of nature." but ya i dont know too much about the cap situation so it could jst be a part of my fantasy

mooby 03-05-2006 10:27 PM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
from what i've heard, he looked promising in his early years in the league, but in the last two, his coverage has dropped off quite a bit. Cowboys fans compared him to roy williams, a big hitter but not good in coverage.

diehardskin2982 03-05-2006 11:26 PM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
Him and Sean Taylor in the same backfield would put fear into any teams heart. Then if we made the trade for Abraham possibly keep Lavar.., thats a nasty Defense.

ST21 03-05-2006 11:36 PM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
[QUOTE=diehardskin2982]Him and Sean Taylor in the same backfield would put fear into any teams heart. Then if we made the trade for Abraham possibly keep Lavar.., thats a nasty Defense.[/QUOTE]


A SUPERBOWL DEFENSE

That Guy 03-05-2006 11:38 PM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
its never happening.

what if we had peyton and brady and CJ and TO and randy moss and...

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-05-2006 11:39 PM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
[QUOTE=That Guy]its never happening.

what if we had peyton and brady and CJ and TO and randy moss and...[/QUOTE]

Seriously TG. Why don't we just go to options, press fantasy draft, and start a new franchise? Oh, you can't do that in the NFL? Damn. J/K

dmek25 03-06-2006 06:28 AM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
i agree that archeluta is vastly OVER RATED and besides,our safetys right now play pretty darn good in greg williams defense.that and they are both faily cheap.money needed to be spent elsewhere

EXoffender 03-06-2006 11:28 AM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
[QUOTE=STPainmaker]Archuleta is extremely overated. The guy is a great athelete we saw him in the combine and all that but he is not good in coverage. I'm very skeptical about the skins going after him. I hope its not true.[/QUOTE]I know for sure he's overrated in Madden '05/'06. What are his career stats looking like?

EXoffender 03-06-2006 11:29 AM

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ST21, your sig is fighting words.

RedskinPete 03-06-2006 11:30 AM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
[QUOTE=dmek25]i agree that archeluta is vastly OVER RATED and besides,our safetys right now play pretty darn good in greg williams defense.that and they are both faily cheap.money needed to be spent elsewhere[/QUOTE]

Yes you ar right but I hope taylor isn't watching the 06 season in jail!

diehardskin2982 03-06-2006 11:32 AM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
lavar is gone, abraham and Archuleta may still be in the skins view of prospects

ST21 03-06-2006 11:37 AM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
[QUOTE=EXoffender]ST21, your sig is fighting words.[/QUOTE]

Don't Sing it Bring It.........we will have an off-topic vote and the loser will give 25.00 to a favorite Charity that everyone in her can agree on......plus I will give you a blood bath....you feel me

TheMalcolmConnection 03-06-2006 11:43 AM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
In Madden, I'm Chuck Norris.

ST21 03-06-2006 11:45 AM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]In Madden, I'm Chuck Norris.[/QUOTE]

Well Chuck....meet your Master Bruce Lee

D'BOYZ 03-06-2006 11:52 AM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
OK people I'm sorry for being the 1 that get's you back to reallity, and I know how fun it's to dream of getting player to help you reach the next level. But C'mon really you're in Cap Hell you should be more focus on trying to keep the biggest amount of starters than talking about thinks that just won't happen not this year.

Even if the new CBA get sign and even with all the restructure contracts and LA cut you would still have to drop some players to get under the cap and your best scenario is being 3 or 4 under the cap that won't get you any High Price veteran.

No Abraham trade, No Archuleta, No Vinatieri, No Glover.... no player that's goign to ask for a more than a 1 mill signing bonus, Sorry not this year.

It's time to face the music if not CBA get sign and all looks like everyone is trying to sign 1 because of the second extention but with no real scenario you would be in deap poop, you might have to trade some of your 2006 draft pics for future 2007 because you won't have enough Cap space for your rookie pool.

So again sorry no high price FA this year damn that kind of FA pick up is the thing that got you in this trouble i nthe first place sorry.

TheMalcolmConnection 03-06-2006 12:01 PM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
Actually that's very much to the contrary.

If there is NO CBA, we have enough restructures in place to sign all draft picks, maybe maybe a small acquision or two.

If there IS a CBA, we're ready to go shopping. The relief from Arrington is more significant than you might imagine. It's not like the Skins are trying to get Edge. Maybe not Abraham, but none of the rest of those guys could be completely out of their price range.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-06-2006 12:03 PM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
D'BOYZ, some of your points are close to the mark. Some of your others are wide.
#1 Are you privy to the terms of the renegotiated deals?
#2 Do you know players we need to cut to get under the cap?

I know you're a Cowboys fan so you salivate at the idea of us being in cap hell, but right now, don't listen to what other Cowboy fans and media-types have to say about our salary cap. You're a smart guy, you know that most media-types don't know squat. You people have been saying for years that we are going to be in cap hell and every year we prove you wrong.

I too thought we might be in cap hell this year. Fortunately, it appears as though I was wrong.

EXoffender 03-06-2006 12:07 PM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
D'BOYZ worry about fixing your OL so that Bledsoe won't have another one of these outings...

[img]http://img351.imageshack.us/img351/1815/pic027357ve.jpg[/img]

Daseal 03-06-2006 12:13 PM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
I think Ryan Clark does a damn fine job back there, and Sean Taylor loves him. When asked who his favorite pro. athelete was, he answered, Ryan Clark.

Practice what you preach fellas, continuity.

I'd much rather spend that money at a position of need.

EXoffender 03-06-2006 12:16 PM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
Something is wrong with our secondary. Or is it still the play of our DL?

SmootSmack 03-06-2006 12:21 PM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
[QUOTE=Daseal]I think Ryan Clark does a damn fine job back there, and Sean Taylor loves him. When asked who his favorite pro. athelete was, he answered, Ryan Clark.

Practice what you preach fellas, continuity.

I'd much rather spend that money at a position of need.[/QUOTE]

I like Clark too, but he is a free agent and could be gone. He is saying some encouraging things though:

"I want to be here and the Redskins have let me know they want me back, but we have a lot of cap trouble," Clark said. "We have to figure out a way to make something work that's in both of our best interests. The money doesn't even have to be equal. It just has to be close to what someone else offers for me to stay." "I'm a realist," Clark said. "I understand my place in this league. Some people look at my size [officially 5-foot-11, 200] and think I don't belong. I fit this defense. I can't play three yards off the line everywhere. And I haven't forgotten that the Redskins gave me an opportunity when no one else would (after he was cut by the New York Giants in July 2004). I don't want to leave here for a few thousand dollars more and be unhappy. Whatever money I'll make will be more than I've ever earned in my life."

[url]http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/teamReport?categoryId=67062&type=InsideSlant[/url]

Of course, it could just be all talk. We'll see

FRPLG 03-06-2006 12:26 PM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]OK people I'm sorry for being the 1 that get's you back to reallity, and I know how fun it's to dream of getting player to help you reach the next level. But C'mon really you're in Cap Hell you should be more focus on trying to keep the biggest amount of starters than talking about thinks that just won't happen not this year.

Even if the new CBA get sign and even with all the restructure contracts and LA cut you would still have to drop some players to get under the cap and your best scenario is being 3 or 4 under the cap that won't get you any High Price veteran.

No Abraham trade, No Archuleta, No Vinatieri, No Glover.... no player that's goign to ask for a more than a 1 mill signing bonus, Sorry not this year.

It's time to face the music if not CBA get sign and all looks like everyone is trying to sign 1 because of the second extention but with no real scenario you would be in deap poop, you might have to trade some of your 2006 draft pics for future 2007 because you won't have enough Cap space for your rookie pool.

So again sorry no high price FA this year damn that kind of FA pick up is the thing that got you in this trouble i nthe first place sorry.[/QUOTE]
Wrong.

With a new CBA the cap goes up for this year AND the 30% rule is gone AND the length of prorating bonuses goes back to a more manageable amount of time. Our cap numbers go down significantly in each of those cases.

The estimated cap would be between 105-108(I even saw a figure of 115 but that seems unrealistic to me). Our estimated cap number drops immediately to under 105 not counting the restructures. The restructures may be contingent upon having no new CBA but we dont yet whether that is the case or not. I would venture a guess that at least some of the restructures are binding in either case.

With all that we're talking about cutting guys who are going to be cut anyways to get room for FAs. Not worrying about keeping starters.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-06-2006 12:34 PM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
[QUOTE=EXoffender]D'BOYZ worry about fixing your OL so that Bledsoe won't have another one of these outings...

[img]http://img351.imageshack.us/img351/1815/pic027357ve.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]

That's some funny ass stuff.

D'BOYZ 03-06-2006 12:40 PM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]D'BOYZ, some of your points are close to the mark. Some of your others are wide.
#1 Are you privy to the terms of the renegotiated deals?
#2 Do you know players we need to cut to get under the cap?

I know you're a Cowboys fan so you salivate at the idea of us being in cap hell, but right now, don't listen to what other Cowboy fans and media-types have to say about our salary cap. You're a smart guy, you know that most media-types don't know squat. You people have been saying for years that we are going to be in cap hell and every year we prove you wrong.

I too thought we might be in cap hell this year. Fortunately, it appears as though I was wrong.[/QUOTE]

Well I don't know all the names of the player that would get cut, some I have read here, some in other trends some that I have read and all the rummor has placed are [b]Patrick Ramsey (his realeas is based more if no CBA would get sign because if not he has some trade value)[/b], cornerback [b]Walt Harris[/b], safety [b]Matt Bowen[/b], center [b]Cory Raymer[/b], defensive tackle [b]Brandon Noble[/b], receiver [b]James Thrash[/b], kicker [b]John Hall[/b] and punter [b]Tom Tupa. [/b]

Now about the trade of Draft pics is a Scenario that some media guys have place in their colums including Peter King if no CBA get sign. this is base on your team being 20+ millions over the CAP right now and that your team can't restructure all the contracts.

Hey you have a limit on the things you can do see the Colts they tried changing Peyton and Harrison roster bonus in 2 signing bonus so the ycould get spread and the league didn't allow it.

LA saved you 4.2 mill, Brunel 1.3 I don't know how much Portis and Spings Saved, and how much the cuts above would save now there's no doubt that you will be under the cap. but you won0t have room to work to sign high price of middle price FA.

Even if the new CBA get sign it's not like you would have 10mill under the cap because some player that might get cut won't get cut and the restructure contracts of Brunell, Portis, Springs don't apply as we all have read if the CBA gets sign.

The difference is taht you keep the mayority of your veterans, and you're right the media has allways predicted that because of the High spending your team would be in cap hell, but this is the first year that you have heard and seen all this position am I wrong.

And with all the rules preventing signing bonus of more than 4 year with other things makes it hard for Snyder to take out the Rabitt out of the hat

[QUOTE=FRPLG]Wrong.

With a new CBA the cap goes up for this year AND the 30% rule is gone AND the length of prorating bonuses goes back to a more manageable amount of time. Our cap numbers go down significantly in each of those cases. .[/QUOTE]

Sorry but even if the CBA is sign the 30% rule won't be gone that it's placed to prevent teams to putting high amounts on players contracts that would lead to them being cut let's say Portis Signs a 120mill 5 year contract de first 4 years are 2 mill the last 1 is 112 mill that hurths the player because the don't ever see big salaries.

I don't know if yo uhave a story to backup the removal of the 30% if so please let me know

D'BOYZ 03-06-2006 12:41 PM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]That's some funny ass stuff.[/QUOTE]


Yes it is I have to find some pics to contrast than 1 is the funnieast I have seen yet

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-06-2006 12:48 PM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
Noble didn't see the field last year.
Hall has been injured the past two seasons.
Raymer isn't exactly a gem.
Tupa was on IR last season.
Harris and Bowen are of very limited value to us.
Thrash is a good guy, but he's replaceable.

I don't see how those cuts are going to hurt us in 2006. They certainly didn't help us out in 2005 when we went 10-6.

D'BOYZ 03-06-2006 12:49 PM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]Noble didn't see the field last year.
Hall has been injured the past two seasons.
Raymer isn't exactly a gem.
Tupa was on IR last season.
Harris and Bowen are of very limited value to us.
Thrash is a good guy, but he's replaceable.

I don't see how those cuts are going to hurt us in 2006. They certainly didn't help us out in 2005 when we went 10-6.[/QUOTE]

I said those are the ones I know idon't know if their are others

RedskinPete 03-06-2006 12:52 PM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]Well I don't know all the names of the player that would get cut, some I have read here, some in other trends some that I have read and all the rummor has placed are [b]Patrick Ramsey (his realeas is based more if no CBA would get sign because if not he has some trade value)[/b], cornerback [b]Walt Harris[/b], safety [b]Matt Bowen[/b], center [b]Cory Raymer[/b], defensive tackle [b]Brandon Noble[/b], receiver [b]James Thrash[/b], kicker [b]John Hall[/b] and punter [b]Tom Tupa. [/b]

Now about the trade of Draft pics is a Scenario that some media guys have place in their colums including Peter King if no CBA get sign. this is base on your team being 20+ millions over the CAP right now and that your team can't restructure all the contracts.

Hey you have a limit on the things you can do see the Colts they tried changing Peyton and Harrison roster bonus in 2 signing bonus so the ycould get spread and the league didn't allow it.

LA saved you 4.2 mill, Brunel 1.3 I don't know how much Portis and Spings Saved, and how much the cuts above would save now there's no doubt that you will be under the cap. but you won0t have room to work to sign high price of middle price FA.

Even if the new CBA get sign it's not like you would have 10mill under the cap because some player that might get cut won't get cut and the restructure contracts of Brunell, Portis, Springs don't apply as we all have read if the CBA gets sign.

The difference is taht you keep the mayority of your veterans, and you're right the media has allways predicted that because of the High spending your team would be in cap hell, but this is the first year that you have heard and seen all this position am I wrong.

And with all the rules preventing signing bonus of more than 4 year with other things makes it hard for Snyder to take out the Rabitt out of the hat



Sorry but even if the CBA is sign the 30% rule won't be gone that it's placed to prevent teams to putting high amounts on players contracts that would lead to them being cut let's say Portis Signs a 120mill 5 year contract de first 4 years are 2 mill the last 1 is 112 mill that hurths the player because the don't ever see big salaries.

I don't know if yo uhave a story to backup the removal of the 30% if so please let me know[/QUOTE]

Gibbs said if there is a CBA the Redskins will be better of and we will not be off so bad! Thanks for looking out for the redskins and us fans!

mcalderone10 03-06-2006 01:08 PM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
[QUOTE=diehardskin2982]Him and Sean Taylor in the same backfield would put fear into any teams heart. Then if we made the trade for Abraham possibly keep Lavar.., thats a nasty Defense.[/QUOTE]


and we'll pay them with monopoly money cuz there is no way we are fitting those guys in the cap w/ still having any other players

mcalderone10 03-06-2006 01:09 PM

Re: Adam Archuleta to the Skins?
 
also y is everyone talking about releasing thrash was a special teams STUD?


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