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Schneed10 01-11-2006 12:54 PM

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[b][size=2]Dr Z picks the Seahawks here, but you can see how fair he's being in giving our Skins their due respect. I agree with him that Seattle is more likely to win, but only because they've had a bye. If both teams were on one week's rest, I'd favor the Skins. I think we have an uphill battle this week, but I believe it can be done. The underdog role is not such a bad one! Anyway, here's his opinion:[/size][/b]

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[b]Washington at Seattle[/b]

[b]WHAT I SAW:[/b] The Redskins beat Tampa Bay on an amazing set of miscues and turnovers that led to points, plus late game Buccaneer foul-ups and just plain courage. While people were moaning about the death of the Skins' offense, they failed to give enough credit to the heroic job their defense was doing. There were just too many good players on that side of the ball, guys who could not be handled.

[b]Cornelius Griffin[/b] was an all-pro tackle last year, an honor he well deserved. He's been hurt this season, but he was back against the Bucs. They couldn't control him. I thought [b]Marcus Washington[/b] was the best player on the field, an outside 'backer who is very close to all-pro level. [b]LaVar Arrington[/b] lifted his game at just the right time. So did [b]Joe Salavea[/b]. There were heroes all along the front seven.

Maybe if they were facing a quarterback with a little more experience they would have lost, because their offense was played out. Done. [b]Mark Brunell[/b] and [b]Clinton Portis [/b]had played themselves to exhaustion, and the O-line was starting to crumble, under the pressure of the Buccaneer rush.

[b]WHAT LIES AHEAD:[/b] I think the Redskins are a tired team right now. They beat the Seahawks 20-17 in overtime in Washington in October, controlling the second and third quarters, while the Hawks controlled the fourth. Then the Skins got off the only significant drive in OT to win it, Brunell scrambling for 18 yards on one key play.

Washington is the tougher team, but the Hawks are rested and they've got tremendous firepower. One nagging thing I can't forget, though, is how they blew their chance to beat the 'Skins last time by playing it cozy.

[b]Kelly Herndon[/b] intercepted a Brunell pass and returned it to Washington's 33 with 49 seconds left in regulation time. [b]Mike Holmgren[/b] chose to run the ball twice, for four yards, and let the clock run down. Then the 47-yard field goal try, hardly a gimme, hit the left upright. The icy fingers on the throat. Please, God, don't let us screw it up. [b]Marty Schottenheimer[/b] lost a playoff game to [b]Herman[/b] [b]Edwards[/b] that way last year and Edwards lost it to [b]Bill Cowher[/b] the same way a week later.

The Redskins have guts but they're tired. The Seahawks have the big scoring potential.

[b]Seahawks 27, Redskins 20[/b].

MTK 01-11-2006 01:58 PM

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They probably are tired, who can blame them they've been in playoff mode for 6 weeks now.

Gibbs is giving the team extra time off this week and flying out to Seattle early to let guys adjust.

I wouldn't underestimate just how far guts can take you.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 01-11-2006 02:05 PM

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To be honest, while rooting hard this weekend, I'm just absolutely thrilled with what the Redskins have been able to accomplish this year.

-record goes from 6-10 to 11-6
-1st time in playoffs since the 1999 season
-playoff road win against an 11-5 team
-5-1 record in the division
-6 straight wins
-keeping Dallas out of the playoffs
-Portis sets franchise rushing record
-Moss sets franchise receiving record
-Cooley sets franchise receiving record for a tight end
-Brunell comes back from the dead
-defense remains top 10 defense despite the loss of Pierce and Smoot

70Chip 01-11-2006 02:08 PM

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That's objective and fair analysis. You can't really expect national writers to pick the Skins because of the historic edge #1 seeds have in the divisional round. It's almost like picking a #15 to beat a #2 in the NCAA tournament. Okay, maybe 13-4 is more appropriate. But its the same principle. The Redskins are definitely swimming against the tide in terms of the normal expectations.

skindogger47 01-11-2006 02:09 PM

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[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]To be honest, while rooting hard this weekend, I'm just absolutely thrilled with what the Redskins have been able to accomplish this year.

-record goes from 6-10 to 11-6
-1st time in playoffs since the 1999 season
-playoff road win against an 11-5 team
-5-1 record in the division
-6 straight wins
-keeping Dallas out of the playoffs
-Portis sets franchise rushing record
-Moss sets franchise receiving record
-Cooley sets franchise receiving record for a tight end
-Brunell comes back from the dead
-defense remains top 10 defense despite the loss of Pierce and Smoot[/QUOTE]Damn straight. Joe Gibbs proved everybody wrong, and took a team that was predicted to be in the cellar farther than any other NFC East team came this year.

12thMan 01-11-2006 02:10 PM

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That too is my only concern - fatigue. Both physically and emotionally. I think if we can jump to like a 10 pt lead, we can handle them from there. I don't want us to be in a situation where we are basically trading scores the entire game.

I just wonder how much longer can we play, collectively, at such a high emotional level.

Hog1 01-11-2006 02:17 PM

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I don't think it's as much about fatigue as it is DESIRE. Skins have the desire. Adrenalin is a POWERFUL weapon.
All of my life, my mother has told me "nobody ever died from being tired". Hell, she was right. I know you will NOT direspect my mom and dispute that............thankyou

skindogger47 01-11-2006 02:17 PM

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[QUOTE=12thMan]That too is my only concern - fatigue. Both physically and emotionally. I think if we can jump to like a 10 pt lead, we can handle them from there. I don't want us to be in a situation where we are basically trading scores the entire game.

I just wonder how much longer can we play, collectively, at such a high emotional level.[/QUOTE]I think Shawn Spring's presence will help with that, and I don't see Griffen, Washington, or Taylor getting tired at all, ever.

12thMan 01-11-2006 02:21 PM

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[QUOTE=skindogger47]I think Shawn Spring's presence will help with that, and I don't see Griffen, Washington, or Taylor getting tired at all, ever.[/QUOTE]

You know, almost immediately after posting I thought the same exact thing.

To add to that list.

LaVar and Carlos Rogers haven't played many snaps this year. And when you look at Griff abd Salava'e, they've played something like 13 games this year.

dgack 01-11-2006 02:27 PM

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Thank God, a sportswriter who isn't afraid to give some props to Washington.

scowan 01-11-2006 02:57 PM

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The Skins may be tired, but I think they will have better success this week on the Offensive side of the ball. If they can control the clock and the game, I like Portis, and Betts sharing the load running the ball. The O-line needs to play with some intensity early, because I don't worry about the D's intensity. Honestly, a lot of the analysis from these writers comes from the team's stats this year, but I still say the Seahawks have played a cupcake schedule and that the Skins match up with them better than most are giving them credit for right now.

ArtMonkDrillz 01-11-2006 02:59 PM

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[QUOTE=dgack]Thank God, a sportswriter who isn't afraid to give some props to Washington.[/QUOTE]

And it only took him the whole regular season. Just remember 'Dr.' Z is the same man who, at the beginning of the season, picked the Bears finishing at 3-13 with one of their 3 wins [b]IN WASHINGTON[/b] week 1. Way to go on both of those predictions doc.
I almost threw up right before the last game of the season because he actually picked us to win, and he's almost always wrong about our beloved Skins.
I personally can't stand Dr. Z and I love when he picks against us (i.e. both Dallas games, the second NYG games) because I want him to look stupid for not seeing what we have all seen over the past year and a half: That this is a great team that just needed to realize it!
I'm not saying every sports writer should always pull a No. 7 and pick the Skins as the NFC Champs, but don't start saying how good they are now just because they too have jumped on the bandwagon. (speaking of The Bandwagon, has Tony K. broke that out yet?)


Now if you'll excuse me, it's time to plant my butt on the couch and not get up until after the game.

skinsttw 01-11-2006 03:00 PM

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I think there is plenty of motivation for the skins to light it up on Saturday. Skins will win in Seattle.

hesscl34 01-11-2006 03:44 PM

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I predict that Moss is going to do some magic this weekend. Offense is going to pick it up and the D is going to do their job. It's going to be close, but I think we are going to pull it out.

HAIL!

backrow 01-11-2006 03:54 PM

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[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]To be honest, while rooting hard this weekend, I'm just absolutely thrilled with what the Redskins have been able to accomplish this year.

-record goes from 6-10 to 11-6
-1st time in playoffs since the 1999 season
-playoff road win against an 11-5 team
-5-1 record in the division
-6 straight wins
-keeping Dallas out of the playoffs
-Portis sets franchise rushing record
-Moss sets franchise receiving record
-Cooley sets franchise receiving record for a tight end
-Brunell comes back from the dead
-defense remains top 10 defense despite the loss of Pierce and Smoot[/QUOTE]


I'm not just rooting hard, I'm confident we will move on! More so than against DaBux!

celts32 01-11-2006 05:02 PM

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The SI guys are all fair for the most part. They don't really like the skins or Snyder, but they usually give credit when it's due. They are often wrong but they keep it professional for the most part.

djnemo65 01-11-2006 05:15 PM

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[QUOTE=Hog1]I don't think it's as much about fatigue as it is DESIRE. Skins have the desire. Adrenalin is a POWERFUL weapon.
All of my life, my mother has told me "nobody ever died from being tired". Hell, she was right. I know you will NOT direspect my mom and dispute that............thankyou[/QUOTE]

Your mom obviously didn't hear about this guy: [url]http://www.physorg.com/news8913.html[/url]

I'm just messing with you. Your mom's words are very sage. Skins are tired but they are also tougher, as Dr. Z points out. The longer the game is close - and it will be - the more the Seahawks will start to feel the pressure; being an underachieving team flirting with losing at home again, this time after a first round bye, I think they'll get all wobbly on us. That's when I look for them to make a costly turnover.

VTSkins897 01-11-2006 05:17 PM

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i think us having played seattle already this year will help more than we know. that extra time for rest and to head out there a bit early will really lessen the impact of that cross-country haul. i agree with some of the above posters. no way in heck that the skins' offense is lackluster this week.

yes the hawks should be favored, maybe even considerably. its the #1 seed vs. the #6. they have home-field and a wk to rest.

i feel that this will be a close game like last wk except maybe an extra TD for each team.

something like washington 24-17

Gmanc711 01-11-2006 05:19 PM

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[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]To be honest, while rooting hard this weekend, I'm just absolutely thrilled with what the Redskins have been able to accomplish this year.

-record goes from 6-10 to 11-6
-1st time in playoffs since the 1999 season
-playoff road win against an 11-5 team
-5-1 record in the division
-6 straight wins
-keeping Dallas out of the playoffs
-Portis sets franchise rushing record
-Moss sets franchise receiving record
-Cooley sets franchise receiving record for a tight end
-Brunell comes back from the dead
-defense remains top 10 defense despite the loss of Pierce and Smoot[/QUOTE]

You're right. That all having been said, we've come this far, we have to put it into high gear and carry it over. There is no dominate team in the NFC, there is no reason we cant be the team representing the NFC in Super Bowl Fourty. Ever since the playoffs started and I scanned the NFC, all I could think is "why not us?". This team has that special feeling, that feeling that I haven't had in a long, LONG time. I think we can and will win on saturday.

Dirtbag 01-11-2006 07:12 PM

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Fortunately, Gibbs appreciates that our players are tired. Practices have been light all week, and he's been talking about "lots of sleep" for the players during the 48 hours before kickoff in Seattle.

diehardskin2982 01-11-2006 07:30 PM

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if i remember correctly everyone started the season at the same time... when the eagles went 10-6 where they tired that one year... no that tired bull s&*t is just a exscuse.. there is no time for that bull crap its playoffs win or go home and I'm not ready to go home.

EternalEnigma21 01-11-2006 07:38 PM

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yeah, I'm not sure if exhaustion will keep these guys out of anything, but I have a question.... How in the hell could you sleep if you were playing in a game like that for the first time? I wonder if that is why Cooley has been off a bit...

dgack 01-11-2006 08:04 PM

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[QUOTE=diehardskin2982]if i remember correctly everyone started the season at the same time... when the eagles went 10-6 where they tired that one year... no that tired bull s&*t is just a exscuse.. there is no time for that bull crap its playoffs win or go home and I'm not ready to go home.[/QUOTE]

Week Three Bye, dude.... Week Three Bye.

diehardskin2982 01-11-2006 08:15 PM

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[QUOTE=dgack]Week Three Bye, dude.... Week Three Bye.[/QUOTE]

If you played in the NFL, and u were 2 games away from a superbowl would you be that tired. They're close enough they can smell the big game. It called heart hoomie and our team has it, we will get that second win. Are they tired who knows, but what I do know is the playoffs can be very illusive for teams and to be in it and get to the second round is awesome. If I were playing and I got this far into the playoffs~ tired would not be a factor in my mind. You train all year to get this far, even further. Not to just lay down and give up a ball game like owell I'm tired.

ST21 01-11-2006 08:34 PM

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[QUOTE=Schneed10][b][size=2]Dr Z picks the Seahawks here, but you can see how fair he's being in giving our Skins their due respect. I agree with him that Seattle is more likely to win, but only because they've had a bye. If both teams were on one week's rest, I'd favor the Skins. I think we have an uphill battle this week, but I believe it can be done. The underdog role is not such a bad one! Anyway, here's his opinion:[/size][/b]



[b]Washington at Seattle[/b]

[b]WHAT I SAW:[/b] The Redskins beat Tampa Bay on an amazing set of miscues and turnovers that led to points, plus late game Buccaneer foul-ups and just plain courage. While people were moaning about the death of the Skins' offense, they failed to give enough credit to the heroic job their defense was doing. There were just too many good players on that side of the ball, guys who could not be handled.

[b]Cornelius Griffin[/b] was an all-pro tackle last year, an honor he well deserved. He's been hurt this season, but he was back against the Bucs. They couldn't control him. I thought [b]Marcus Washington[/b] was the best player on the field, an outside 'backer who is very close to all-pro level. [b]LaVar Arrington[/b] lifted his game at just the right time. So did [b]Joe Salavea[/b]. There were heroes all along the front seven.

Maybe if they were facing a quarterback with a little more experience they would have lost, because their offense was played out. Done. [b]Mark Brunell[/b] and [b]Clinton Portis [/b]had played themselves to exhaustion, and the O-line was starting to crumble, under the pressure of the Buccaneer rush.

[b]WHAT LIES AHEAD:[/b] I think the Redskins are a tired team right now. They beat the Seahawks 20-17 in overtime in Washington in October, controlling the second and third quarters, while the Hawks controlled the fourth. Then the Skins got off the only significant drive in OT to win it, Brunell scrambling for 18 yards on one key play.

Washington is the tougher team, but the Hawks are rested and they've got tremendous firepower. One nagging thing I can't forget, though, is how they blew their chance to beat the 'Skins last time by playing it cozy.

[b]Kelly Herndon[/b] intercepted a Brunell pass and returned it to Washington's 33 with 49 seconds left in regulation time. [b]Mike Holmgren[/b] chose to run the ball twice, for four yards, and let the clock run down. Then the 47-yard field goal try, hardly a gimme, hit the left upright. The icy fingers on the throat. Please, God, don't let us screw it up. [b]Marty Schottenheimer[/b] lost a playoff game to [b]Herman[/b] [b]Edwards[/b] that way last year and Edwards lost it to [b]Bill Cowher[/b] the same way a week later.

The Redskins have guts but they're tired. The Seahawks have the big scoring potential.

[b]Seahawks 27, Redskins 20[/b].[/QUOTE]

Who cares...........no one can predict what can happen,........Shawn A. meet Sean Taylor.........night, night time

Redskin 01-11-2006 08:44 PM

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Joe Gibbs is no tnew to the playoff thing, he knows how to keep the boys fresh but not rusty and i see no reason for the offesnse to be tired considering they only played 10 minutes and portis came out half way thru game form slight injury not making him rush as much

~hail~

SUNRA 01-11-2006 10:23 PM

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The players know better than anybody that they have six months to rest. Some will never see another playoff game while others will go beyond the playoffs to the big dance. Here are the players who are well rested who will make a difference in this game.

1. Shawn Springs
2. Sean Taylor
3. Carlos Rodgers
4. James Thrash
5. Rock Cartwright
6. Antonio Brown ( Must play on offense as a wideout)

dgack 01-11-2006 10:42 PM

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[QUOTE=SUNRA]The players know better than anybody that they have six months to rest. Some will never see another playoff game while others will go beyond the playoffs to the big dance. Here are the players who are well rested who will make a difference in this game.

1. Shawn Springs
2. Sean Taylor
3. Carlos Rodgers
4. James Thrash
5. Rock Cartwright
6. Antonio Brown ( Must play on offense as a wideout)[/QUOTE]

If we are relying on Trash, Rock, and Antonio Brown to be difference-makers, I think we are in some serious muhvuggin trouble here.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 01-11-2006 11:32 PM

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[QUOTE=dgack]If we are relying on Trash, Rock, and Antonio Brown to be difference-makers, I think we are in some serious muhvuggin trouble here.[/QUOTE]

dgack, weren't you the one who was complaining in another thread about this site bashing Redskins? Now you are trashing these guys? :smashfrea

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 01-11-2006 11:35 PM

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I'm sorry, but saying that the Redskins might be tired and the Seahawks will be rested isn't an excuse. A bye week is crucial to a team's success. Healthy players are crucial to a team's success. I strongly disagree with anyone that thinks that the bye week doesn't give the Seahawks a relative advantage over the Redskins.

FirstandTen 01-11-2006 11:36 PM

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[QUOTE=SUNRA]The players know better than anybody that they have six months to rest. Some will never see another playoff game while others will go beyond the playoffs to the big dance. Here are the players who are well rested who will make a difference in this game.

1. Shawn Springs
2. Sean Taylor
3. Carlos Rodgers
4. James Thrash
5. Rock Cartwright
6. Antonio Brown ( Must play on offense as a wideout)[/QUOTE]


AB as a WR lolololol... Did u happen to watch the preseason??? I think Thrash in a cast has a better chance of catching a pass than AB.


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