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FirstandTen 01-09-2006 10:05 PM

Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
On the channel 4 interview with George Michael today Bugel said Moss will see action returning punts this week. He said they hoped Thrash would be able to take over but with his thumb its not likely. I guess it dosen't mean Moss will return them all but MAN I HOPE HE DOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

70Chip 01-09-2006 11:36 PM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
I honestly believe that the coaches need to get the ball in Taylor's hands whenever possible. He plays on teams anyways so why not a reverse or lateral on the punt return. I was watching an NFL films 'greatest games' of the 1984 NFC championship against the 49ers and they must have run three or four trick plays out of punt kick/coverage.

1. A reverse to Monte Coleman.
2. A lateral from Nick Giaquinto to Darrel Green which resulted in a score but was ruled a forward pass. (no instant replay in those days)
3. Jeff Hayes ran for a first down from punt formation.

I think Gibbs is going to take some chances Saturday.

Dirtbag 01-10-2006 03:36 AM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
Why would Bugel say this? I mean, why not make it a surprise on Saturday, so Seattle is less likely to kick away from him?

TheGuyFromOverThere 01-10-2006 04:10 AM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
At first, letīs hope that there will be a lot of punts to be returned.

Zkinsfan 01-10-2006 04:54 AM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
would be nice............

paulskinsfan 01-10-2006 09:13 AM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
Not me, I think this is a bad idea. Yes, Im old school and I fondly remember Darrell Green racing into the end zone against the Bears, but lets think about this for a minute. Moss is our only quick strike weapon on offense. Without Moss, the opponents defense will put 8 men in the box, and suddenly we become one dimensional on offense. I don't think putting Moss back there to risk injury is a good idea at all.

MTK 01-10-2006 09:29 AM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
It's time to push all your chips to the center of the table and go for it, Moss on punts in the playoffs is a no brainer to me. I'm surprised he didn't field a few last week.

gibbs4life 01-10-2006 09:37 AM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
yes sir this is the playoffs,win at any costs.pull out all the stops .

we need moss on offense and special teams,returning kicks.

scowan 01-10-2006 09:59 AM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72]It's time to push all your chips to the center of the table and go for it, Moss on punts in the playoffs is a no brainer to me. I'm surprised he didn't field a few last week.[/QUOTE]

Matty, I agree with you. It is time to get creative on Special Teams and Offense. I am not worried about the Defense, because I think Greg Williams has been creative all season, but we need to shake things up in the punt department and the KR department. The Skins need to win the field position battle this week and score points. 17-10 is not going to be the score this week. I don't think the Skins can hold the Seahawks under 20 this week at their place. They have averaged 28.25 per game this year.

irish 01-10-2006 10:09 AM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
Moss must be used now because he is an explosive threat and wont fumble. Also Thrash likely wont even play on Sat because he had surgery on his thumb yesterday.

scowan 01-10-2006 10:19 AM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
[QUOTE=irish]Moss must be used now because he is an explosive threat and wont fumble. Also Thrash likely wont even play on Sat because he had surgery on his thumb yesterday.[/QUOTE]

The Thrash thing really hurts this week. We are back to Farris and Taylor, both of whom either can't get open or can't make a play! Somebody has got to step up this week at WR and make a few plays.

TheMalcolmConnection 01-10-2006 10:21 AM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72]It's time to push all your chips to the center of the table and go for it, Moss on punts in the playoffs is a no brainer to me. I'm surprised he didn't field a few last week.[/QUOTE]

Yup, last game of the season and you can't hold anything back.

And if they win, IT'S BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HOLD ANYTHING BACK!!

scowan 01-10-2006 10:42 AM

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]Yup, last game of the season and you can't hold anything back.

And if they win, IT'S BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HOLD ANYTHING BACK!![/QUOTE]

Malcolm, I hope it is not the last game of the season, but it sort of feels that way to me. I really was not too worried about the Bucs and thought the Skins could beat them. And they Did!!! I am totaly proud of this team no matter what happens this Saturday, but they are going to really have to make some plays and have some breaks go their way to win this game. If they do, it would be a serious upset! The Skins are 1 game away from the NFC Championship game! Who would have thought!

skindogger47 01-10-2006 11:08 AM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
Hell yeah, the prophecy is coming true. I suppose Brown will still be around for kickoff detail?

skinsfanthru&thru 01-10-2006 11:10 AM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
[QUOTE=skindogger47]Hell yeah, the prophecy is coming true. I suppose Brown will still be around for kickoff detail?[/QUOTE]

I actually prefer Betts as he always seem to get almost 5-10 yards more a return than Brown does. then again Betts doesn't fall down accidently anywhere as much as Brown does so that might have something to do with it ;)

skindogger47 01-10-2006 11:19 AM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
[QUOTE=skinsfanthru&thru]I actually prefer Betts as he always seem to get almost 5-10 yards more a return than Brown does. then again Betts doesn't fall down accidently anywhere as much as Brown does so that might have something to do with it ;)[/QUOTE]AGREED. Betts has just as good a chance at scoring than Brown, too.

paulskinsfan 01-10-2006 11:21 AM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
I hear what everyone is saying, I really do, playoffs, give 'em everything ya got, etc. What scares the hell out of me is say we are in this game in the first half and Moss is put back there, screws up a knee and he's done for the rest of the game. If you will remember, Darrell Green tore some rib cartlige on his historic punt return in Chicago. If Moss gets injured, our offense is screeeewwwwed. Go Skins.

FirstandTen 01-10-2006 11:24 AM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
[QUOTE=paulskinsfan]I hear what everyone is saying, I really do, playoffs, give 'em everything ya got, etc. What scares the hell out of me is say we are in this game in the first half and Moss is put back there, screws up a knee and he's done for the rest of the game. If you will remember, Darrell Green tore some rib cartlige on his historic punt return in Chicago. If Moss gets injured, our offense is screeeewwwwed. Go Skins.[/QUOTE]

What scares me is if AB's back there and fumbles the ball on our 10yardline......

skindogger47 01-10-2006 11:24 AM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
[QUOTE=paulskinsfan]I hear what everyone is saying, I really do, playoffs, give 'em everything ya got, etc. What scares the hell out of me is say we are in this game in the first half and Moss is put back there, screws up a knee and he's done for the rest of the game. If you will remember, Darrell Green tore some rib cartlige on his historic punt return in Chicago. If Moss gets injured, our offense is screeeewwwwed. Go Skins.[/QUOTE]Green already had a broken rib when he returned that punt. If Moss isn't touching the ball anyway, who cares if he could possibly get injured? Also, the idea of punt returners getting injured more than other players on the field is a ridiculous one. Sure, they take hits, but they're just as likely to get hurt as anyone else. We've had more KICKERS hurt this year than kick returners. Put in Moss, gain field position, possibly get a touchdown.

skindogger47 01-10-2006 11:25 AM

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I don't think there would be a soul on this board who would argue putting in Moss if we hadn't recovered Brown's fumble.

scowan 01-10-2006 12:03 PM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
Guys, I am sorry, but everytime the other team punts and AB is back their, I am scared to death. I don't think he makes good decisions. He may be the fastest guy on the team, but you can just blow on him as he goes by you and he will fall down. I trust Moss more. By the way, Moss has not missed a game due to injury this year and he gets hit and makes blocks every week. Put him back there!

Schneed10 01-10-2006 12:03 PM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
[QUOTE=paulskinsfan]I hear what everyone is saying, I really do, playoffs, give 'em everything ya got, etc. What scares the hell out of me is say we are in this game in the first half and Moss is put back there, screws up a knee and he's done for the rest of the game. If you will remember, Darrell Green tore some rib cartlige on his historic punt return in Chicago. If Moss gets injured, our offense is screeeewwwwed. Go Skins.[/QUOTE]

Can you name one punt returner in the entire NFL this year who got hurt while performing punt return duties? I can't. Yes you take hard hits as a punt returner, but you do that as a WR too. I think the risk is WELL worth the reward.

Schneed10 01-10-2006 12:05 PM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
Antonio Brown is playing like he's scared SH*TLESS of getting hit. He won't run through a seam with confidence and he slips so often that it makes me wonder if he's taking a dive to avoid contact.

He's nervous and can't hold onto the ball. The guy doesn't have the mental makeup to be a good punt returner on the NFL. At least not right now. We need Moss back there because AB is a liability.

paulskinsfan 01-10-2006 12:20 PM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
[QUOTE=skindogger47]Green already had a broken rib when he returned that punt. If Moss isn't touching the ball anyway, who cares if he could possibly get injured? Also, the idea of punt returners getting injured more than other players on the field is a ridiculous one. Sure, they take hits, but they're just as likely to get hurt as anyone else. We've had more KICKERS hurt this year than kick returners. Put in Moss, gain field position, possibly get a touchdown.[/QUOTE]


I don't think Green had a broken rib at the time but I could be wrong. Im pretty sure he got injured on the return. As far as who cares if Moss gets injured b/c its the last game, well, I care. What makes Moss a true No. 1 threat is that quickness and speed, ya take that away with a blown out knee and the guy might not recover in the off season. I just think he should be used as a PR only if the game depends on it, i.e. 4th quarter and we need a big play.

gortiz 01-10-2006 01:15 PM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
I would only let moss return kicks in the second half of a game that is being decieded by 10 or more points

skindogger47 01-10-2006 01:31 PM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
[QUOTE=paulskinsfan]I don't think Green had a broken rib at the time but I could be wrong. Im pretty sure he got injured on the return. As far as who cares if Moss gets injured b/c its the last game, well, I care. What makes Moss a true No. 1 threat is that quickness and speed, ya take that away with a blown out knee and the guy might not recover in the off season. I just think he should be used as a PR only if the game depends on it, i.e. 4th quarter and we need a big play.[/QUOTE]I figured you'd take that part out of my post and run with it. Read the part again about our KICKERS being hurt more than kick returners this season. At this point, it is about this week, not down the road. Sure we'd miss Moss, but he has a better chance of scoring a touchdown on a punt return than he does getting hurt. The risk/reward points to Moss returning punts.

skinsttw 01-10-2006 01:32 PM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
Put the best man back there for punt returns. Moss is dangerous every time he
touches the ball. We need 30 points to win this game.

Dirtbag 01-10-2006 01:44 PM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
Moss returned a kick for a TD in last year's playoffs, too.

paulskinsfan 01-10-2006 03:10 PM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
[QUOTE=skindogger47]I figured you'd take that part out of my post and run with it. Read the part again about our KICKERS being hurt more than kick returners this season. At this point, it is about this week, not down the road. Sure we'd miss Moss, but he has a better chance of scoring a touchdown on a punt return than he does getting hurt. The risk/reward points to Moss returning punts.[/QUOTE]

Kickers are replaceable, Santana is not. I just don't think he should be put back on PR unless the game is on the line.

FirstandTen 01-10-2006 03:15 PM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
[QUOTE=paulskinsfan]Kickers are replaceable, Santana is not. I just don't think he should be put back on PR unless the game is on the line.[/QUOTE]

Then who should??? AB's Hands or why not THrash with a broken thumb....

irish 01-10-2006 03:19 PM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
Moss could get hurt on any play. What difference does it make if he were to get hurt returning a punt or running after catching a pass or worst of all, blocking for a running play. Either way he is trying to make something happen which he cant do standing on the sideline. He's gotta have his hands on the ball as much as possible.

Schneed10 01-10-2006 03:51 PM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
[QUOTE=paulskinsfan]Kickers are replaceable, Santana is not. I just don't think he should be put back on PR unless the game is on the line.[/QUOTE]

You don't win Superbowls thinking this way. You just don't.

steveo395 01-10-2006 03:51 PM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
you have to take chances in the playoffs and this isnt even that big of a chance

TheMalcolmConnection 01-10-2006 03:53 PM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
[QUOTE=Schneed10]You don't win Superbowls thinking this way. You just don't.[/QUOTE]

I agree. Would you rather have Brown or Santana?

RedskinPete 01-10-2006 04:56 PM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
This is the play-offs!!! If Moss can help do it!!!! Brown is going to give away a ball and it will cost us big!!!

skinsfanthru&thru 01-10-2006 05:27 PM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
Moss has so much expirience as a PR that I'm totally cool with this. I mean the guy was partially drafted because of his return skills. If it was someone who hadn't fielded that many punts I'd be more worried cuz the awareness of impending hits and how to read blocks properly are things that only really come with experience. Plus with as many times this year that Moss has made nothing into something, he's our best offensive weapon and the ball needs to find its way into his hands anyway the team can get it there.

dmek25 01-10-2006 07:20 PM

Re: Bugel says Moss will return some punts this week...THANK GOD!!
 
just like hold em-all in.moss should be used in every aspect that can use his playmaking ability.didnt he return a punt for a td against the steelers a couple of years ago in a playoff game?what about taylor back on offense?he has that playmaking mentality


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