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MTK 01-11-2016 06:06 PM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
One game shouldn't change the narrative. People need to chill out.

MTK 01-11-2016 07:13 PM

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[quote=htownskinfan;1137260]I agree with a lot of the posters on cousin's attitude doesnt reflect that he wants to be here.
I have been all in on Cousins but still have concerns.He had a terrible 4th qtr yesterday and looked rattled by the pressure.[B]When he has a clean pocket he's very good,but pressure makes him Brian Hoyer[/B].
My biggest concern is stat I just read today which is unbelievable and gives me pause for concern
COUSINS HAS NEVER BEATEN A TEAM WITH A WINNING RECORD!!
If that doesnt concern you than......[/quote]

Not true at all, he was very good against the blitz this year.

Hoyer had a 15.9 QB rating on Sat... 15.9. Putting them in the same sentence is ridiculous.

rocnrik 01-11-2016 07:25 PM

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[quote=htownskinfan;1137260]I agree with a lot of the posters on cousin's attitude doesnt reflect that he wants to be here.
I have been all in on Cousins but still have concerns.He had a terrible 4th qtr yesterday and looked rattled by the pressure.When he has a clean pocket he's very good,but pressure makes him Brian Hoyer.
My biggest concern is stat I just read today which is unbelievable and gives me pause for concern
COUSINS HAS NEVER BEATEN A TEAM WITH A WINNING RECORD!!
If that doesnt concern you than......[/quote]
What that tells me is that this TEAM has a ways to go ..He had no time to throw in the fourth qtr.the packers were coming all out..now look at the time rogers had he was picking apart the skins .. to all you guys who really don't believe in Cousins ..what would you say next year if cousins is playing for some other team and we are back to square one. lucky for us the redskins have gotten smarter and that won't happen..i can't believe we finally find the franchise QB and STILL there are those who can't get on board. we got beat by arguably the BEST QB remaining in the playoffs..yes even over Brady. We were in the game into the 4th qtr.. my biggest complaint is the continuous Selfish play of DJAX ..he needs to go someplace else with that side show. he could have easily scored that TD and who knows what could have happened .that gave the packers life .

htownskinfan 01-11-2016 07:30 PM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
[QUOTE=MTK;1137271]Not true at all, he was very good against the blitz this year.



Hoyer had a 15.9 QB rating on Sat... 15.9. Putting them in the same sentence is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]


Yeah you're right,I over exaggerated
But Cousins did not play well after the td drive in 3rd and the never beating a team with a winning record was surprising and concerning.
I know we have no choice now but to sign him and I want us to,but I do have fears that he will be a 1 hit wonder like RG3.

NYCskinfan82 01-11-2016 08:25 PM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
[quote=htownskinfan;1137274]Yeah you're right,I over exaggerated
But Cousins did not play well after the td drive in 3rd and the never beating a team with a winning record was surprising and concerning.
I know we have no choice now but to sign him and I want us to,but I do have fears that he will be a 1 hit wonder like RG3.[/quote]

Stop talking like that it's no longer allowed here.

30gut 01-11-2016 08:45 PM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
Players, QBs evolve.
There is a progression happening.

Kirk didn't have his best game yesterday.

He missed some reads, missed some throws (behind, high etc) made some bad decisions (delay of game at the goal line) lost a fumble and took some uncharacteristic sacks. I bet if asked he would admit the above....

It was Kirk's first playoff game though, it doesn't change anything that happened during the season it doesn't change who/what Kirk accomplished. In some respects its a reminder that he still has some room for growth.

I also think the gameplan/playcalling didn't help him out...but it was this staff's 1st playoff game together too.

MTK 01-11-2016 08:57 PM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
[quote=htownskinfan;1137274]Yeah you're right,I over exaggerated
But Cousins did not play well after the td drive in 3rd and the never beating a team with a winning record was surprising and concerning.
I know we have no choice now but to sign him and I want us to,but I do have fears that he will be a 1 hit wonder like RG3.[/quote]

RG3 was a totally different situation, his success was based on the read option and his freakish athleticism. Both of those are gone now.

Kirk doesn't need gimmicks or 4.3 speed.

htownskinfan 01-11-2016 09:12 PM

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[QUOTE=MTK;1137286]RG3 was a totally different situation, his success was based on the read option and his freakish athleticism. Both of those are gone now.



Kirk doesn't need gimmicks or 4.3 speed.[/QUOTE]


You were one of the guys that dissed me when I expressed my concern over griffin way back in 2013, and if I remember correctly continue to support Griffin probably all the way up to training camp this year, so for you to not support Griffin now and take up for cousins is laughable.
And no I am not taking up for Griffin, I've been saying he wasn't that good for a long time now,I just find it very ironic for you to chide me over expressing my concerns about Cousins.

All I am saying is I have some concerns about cousins, and not being able to beat a team over 500 is something to be concerned about.
I have been on the kirk bandwagon since the first game so I am not a Kirk hater, and I do want us to re-sign him, but I know it's going to take a shit load of money and I don't think we've seen enough body of work to invest that much money in him, but we put ourselves in the position that we have no choice.

punch it in 01-11-2016 09:16 PM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
[QUOTE=MTK;1137266]One game shouldn't change the narrative. People need to chill out.[/QUOTE]


Its crazy. 7 wins was a huge success a few months ago.

MTK 01-11-2016 09:21 PM

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[quote=htownskinfan;1137287]You were one of the guys that dissed me when I expressed my concern over griffin way back in 2013, and if I remember correctly continue to support Griffin probably all the way up to training camp this year, so for you to not support Griffin now and take up for cousins is laughable.
And no I am not taking up for Griffin, I've been saying he wasn't that good for a long time now,I just find it very ironic for you to chide me over expressing my concerns about Cousins.

All I am saying is I have some concerns about cousins, and not being able to beat a team over 500 is something to be concerned about.
I have been on the kirk bandwagon since the first game so I am not a Kirk hater, and I do want us to re-sign him, but I know it's going to take a shit load of money and I don't think we've seen enough body of work to invest that much money in him, but we put ourselves in the position that we have no choice.[/quote]

lol you take things way too personal... I support whoever is in the lineup, simple as that. Cousins has earned my support. I was with Griffin all the way until he showed he simply wasn't developing well enough.

Nothing wrong with having some concerns as long as they're legit. You have a history of exaggerating and your concerns now are a little over the top. Did you see his development the last few months? Why did one game where he didn't even play that bad become such a concern?

The Redskins haven't beaten a team with a winning record with Cousins at the helm is the more accurate way to put it. Nobody wins or loses alone. His play yesterday was a reflection of the entire offense. They were off, not just him.

30gut 01-11-2016 09:21 PM

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[quote=htownskinfan;1137287]All I am saying is I have some concerns about cousins, and not being able to beat a team over 500 is something to be concerned about.
I have been on the kirk bandwagon since the first game so I am not a Kirk hater, and I do want us to re-sign him, but I know it's going to take a shit load of money and I don't think we've seen enough body of work to invest that much money in him, but we put ourselves in the position that we have no choice.[/quote]Its a logical concern. Wanting to see more then 1 season of production is reasonable before ponying up to pay any QB at the top end of the going rate for "franchise" starting QBs. Its gonna be interesting how it plays about. We need Kirk....but Kirk needs us too.

MTK 01-11-2016 09:24 PM

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[quote=30gut;1137292]Its a logical concern. Wanting to see more then 1 season of production is reasonable before ponying up to pay any QB at the top end of the going rate for "franchise" starting QBs. Its gonna be interesting how it plays about. We need Kirk....but Kirk needs us too.[/quote]

Question is do you tie up $20m next year or much less with a multi year deal?

MTK 01-11-2016 09:40 PM

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[quote=punch it in;1137289]Its crazy. 7 wins was a huge success a few months ago.[/quote]

Now we've got Hoyer under center and a guy we should let walk if he wants more than 1 year at $10m. FFS.

punch it in 01-11-2016 09:53 PM

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[QUOTE=MTK;1137301]Now we've got Hoyer under center and a guy we should let walk if he wants more than 1 year at $10m. FFS.[/QUOTE]


Lmao. Thats ok. Last night when we still had the damn lead everyone on our team was a pos.
Listen I know we have a long history of suck behind us, but there are a few big differences rite now in 2016 that are in play.
1) DS is pretty much staying quiet and out of the picture.
2) Scot McCloughan is a far damn cry from Vinnie effing Cerrato.
3) We have a full compliment of draft picks.
4) Not only are we out of cap hell but we actually have money to do what we need to do.
5) We have a young QB who - in his first year at the helm- did a pretty god damned good job. I dont give a shit who he beat or what their freaking record was.
6) We will have stability at the coaching position, and the players play hard for the man.
7) We are the defending NFC East Champs and the Eagles and Giants are looking for their next head coaches while the Cowboys are pinning their hopes once again on a healthy Tony Romo to come back and lead their team to the Superbowl. Lol!
8) HTTR!

Meks 01-11-2016 10:17 PM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
I like that ^

skinsfaninok 01-11-2016 10:25 PM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
I've noticed on other sites as well but people need to get over the whole RG3-Kirk BS, KC is wayyyyyy better as a passer and its not even close. RG3 is a good dude with a good heart but when u have guys like Ryan Clark come out and say he's all about his brand, that says alot about his team standpoint. Clark was the same guy that praised Kirk's work ethic.

htownskinfan 01-11-2016 10:36 PM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
[QUOTE=MTK;1137291]lol you take things way too personal... I support whoever is in the lineup, simple as that. Cousins has earned my support. I was with Griffin all the way until he showed he simply wasn't developing well enough.



Nothing wrong with having some concerns as long as they're legit. You have a history of exaggerating and your concerns now are a little over the top. Did you see his development the last few months? Why did one game where he didn't even play that bad become such a concern?



The Redskins haven't beaten a team with a winning record with Cousins at the helm is the more accurate way to put it. Nobody wins or loses alone. His play yesterday was a reflection of the entire offense. They were off, not just him.[/QUOTE]


No I'm not taking it personally,I just remember you taking up for Griff amid my concerns(which by the way all turned out to be prophetic)way back when and continued to do so all the way up to Kirk being named the starter.
As far as you saying you support whoevers in the lineup its as simple as that,I cannot understand or comprehend that reasoning.I'm all for supporting your team but when someone's playing poorly and your making excuses for them or disagreeing with other people about their poor play just because they are in the lineup makes no sense to me.
Yes I did exaggerate about Cousins being compared to Hoyer and I admitted that,as far as a history of over exaggeration,we will have to disagree about that too.

It's not just one game that has me concerned,it's his career as a whole.
Yes he has great strides this season.
Yes the whole team was off yesterday,but Cousins throws in the 2nd half we're some of his worst since I don't know when,and if not for that amazing catch by Reed he would have had a pick 6,and it would have been very interesting to see how he would have handled it if that would have happened.
Hopefully it was just 1st timer playoff pressure getting to him and he will learn from it and be a better qb.
I guess reading about his having never beaten a team with a winning record combined with what I thought was a mostly bad 2nd half yesterday made me post what I did.
I guess what I should have said is I have my concerns over paying Kirk a shitload of money for someone who's never beaten a winning team and his body of work IMO is not long enough to warrant signing him to what might be top 5 qb pay,but at this point we have no choice but to do that or slap the franchise tag on him.

Chico23231 01-11-2016 10:36 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1137310]I've noticed on other sites as well but people need to get over the whole RG3-Kirk BS, KC is wayyyyyy better as a passer and its not even close. RG3 is a good dude with a good heart but when u have guys like Ryan Clark come out and say he's all about his brand, that says alot about his team standpoint. Clark was the same guy that praised Kirk's work ethic.[/quote]

It's just pathetic with the media...there is no story about rg3. The story is over and has been over.

This stuff about some note, or message on the locker is just horseshit. Why people even bother to read that crap is just beyond me.

MTK 01-11-2016 10:46 PM

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[QUOTE=htownskinfan;1137311]No I'm not taking it personally,I just remember you taking up for Griff amid my concerns(which by the way all turned out to be prophetic)way back when and continued to do so all the way up to Kirk being named the starter.
As far as you saying you support whoevers in the lineup its as simple as that,I cannot understand or comprehend that reasoning.I'm all for supporting your team but when someone's playing poorly and your making excuses for them or disagreeing with other people about their poor play just because they are in the lineup makes no sense to me.
Yes I did exaggerate about Cousins being compared to Hoyer and I admitted that,as far as a history of over exaggeration,we will have to disagree about that too.

It's not just one game that has me concerned,it's his career as a whole.
Yes he has great strides this season.
Yes the whole team was off yesterday,but Cousins throws in the 2nd half we're some of his worst since I don't know when,and if not for that amazing catch by Reed he would have had a pick 6,and it would have been very interesting to see how he would have handled it if that would have happened.
Hopefully it was just 1st timer playoff pressure getting to him and he will learn from it and be a better qb.
I guess reading about his having never beaten a team with a winning record combined with what I thought was a mostly bad 2nd half yesterday made me post what I did.
I guess what I should have said is I have my concerns over paying Kirk a shitload of money for someone who's never beaten a winning team and his body of work IMO is not long enough to warrant signing him to what might be top 5 qb pay,but at this point we have no choice but to do that or slap the franchise tag on him.[/QUOTE]


Good for you bro, you're a prophet. Pat yourself on the back. Maybe you'll be right again.

I'm not talking about supporting a guy no matter what. I had plenty of concerns about RG3 going back to the injury.

Cousins is still coming into his own, but I'm ok with committing to him and seeing what happens.

punch it in 01-11-2016 10:48 PM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
[QUOTE=htownskinfan;1137311]No I'm not taking it personally,I just remember you taking up for Griff amid my concerns(which by the way all turned out to be prophetic)way back when and continued to do so all the way up to Kirk being named the starter.
As far as you saying you support whoevers in the lineup its as simple as that,I cannot understand or comprehend that reasoning.I'm all for supporting your team but when someone's playing poorly and your making excuses for them or disagreeing with other people about their poor play just because they are in the lineup makes no sense to me.
Yes I did exaggerate about Cousins being compared to Hoyer and I admitted that,as far as a history of over exaggeration,we will have to disagree about that too.

It's not just one game that has me concerned,it's his career as a whole.
Yes he has great strides this season.
Yes the whole team was off yesterday,but Cousins throws in the 2nd half we're some of his worst since I don't know when,and if not for that amazing catch by Reed he would have had a pick 6,and it would have been very interesting to see how he would have handled it if that would have happened.
Hopefully it was just 1st timer playoff pressure getting to him and he will learn from it and be a better qb.
I guess reading about his having never beaten a team with a winning record combined with what I thought was a mostly bad 2nd half yesterday made me post what I did.
I guess what I should have said is I have my concerns over paying Kirk a shitload of money for someone who's never beaten a winning team and his body of work IMO is not long enough to warrant signing him to what might be top 5 qb pay,but at this point we have no choice but to do that or slap the franchise tag on him.[/QUOTE]


Cousins throws in the second half were his worst since several weeks ago. You know why? Because he has been playing out of his freaking mind. He had a few off throws. He also had a couple dropped, and a td taken away because djax stuck his foot in without the ball.
As far as amazing catches, yeah Reed bailed him out. So too did David Tyree for Eli Manning. Eli won an mvp trophy because of it. So what? Who cares? You know how many "near" interceptions are thrown on a weekly basis by quarterbacks in the NFL?
You just have to realize that this "never beat a winning team" bullshit is based on probably 12 games? Most of which were played with a 4 win team that couldn't even beat bad teams! It is the dumbest stat ever all things considered.
Also - as far as yesterdays second half goes - if not for our piss poor defense he just might not have been pressing so much. If not for our non existent run game he just might have had a more honest defense to throw the ball against. You just cannot dismiss these things.

MTK 01-11-2016 10:48 PM

Cousins has arrived
 
All this talk about the QB when the D was hot garbage. Typical.

skinsfaninok 01-11-2016 10:51 PM

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u would think when guys like Trent say "we have our QB" and others have said this, that fans would be happy esp after 20 yrs of having none.

Ruhskins 01-11-2016 10:58 PM

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[quote=MTK;1137316]All this talk about the QB when the D was hot garbage. Typical.[/quote]

Or the fact that we had no running game all season.

skinsfaninok 01-11-2016 11:07 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1137319]Or the fact that we had no running game all season.[/quote]

had like the 26th believe

htownskinfan 01-12-2016 12:27 AM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
[QUOTE=MTK;1137313][B][I]Good for you bro, you're a prophet. Pat yourself on the back. Maybe you'll be right again.
[/I][/B]
I'm sure I will

[B][I]I'm not talking about supporting a guy no matter what. I had plenty of concerns about RG3 going back to the injury.[/I][/B]
Those are your words in response to me,you did not explain yourself for me to take it any other way.

[B][I]Cousins is still coming into his own, but I'm ok with committing to him and seeing what happens[/I][/B].
On that I agree with you-if it's for the right price.If he's asking for top 5 qb money for what amounts to around 8 or 9 good games in his career,are you still committed to him?

htownskinfan 01-12-2016 12:29 AM

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[quote=punch it in;1137315]Cousins throws in the second half were his worst since several weeks ago. You know why? Because he has been playing out of his freaking mind. He had a few off throws. He also had a couple dropped, and a td taken away because djax stuck his foot in without the ball.
As far as amazing catches, yeah Reed bailed him out. So too did David Tyree for Eli Manning. Eli won an mvp trophy because of it. So what? Who cares? You know how many "near" interceptions are thrown on a weekly basis by quarterbacks in the NFL?
You just have to realize that this "never beat a winning team" bullshit is based on probably 12 games? Most of which were played with a 4 win team that couldn't even beat bad teams! It is the dumbest stat ever all things considered.
Also - as far as yesterdays second half goes - if not for our piss poor defense he just might not have been pressing so much. If not for our non existent run game he just might have had a more honest defense to throw the ball against. You just cannot dismiss these things.[/quote]

Whoa man calm down :) Focus on what I said in my last paragraph.Try to remember I am a Kirk supporter.
As for your last paragraph,so you're admitting he was pressing and didnt play well,lol
He hasnt had a running game all year,so nothing changed in that regard.Also the defense has sucked all year also for the most part.What changed yesterday is the defense didnt get any turnovers to help bail them out.

Buffalo Bob 01-12-2016 12:33 AM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
[quote=MTK;1137293]Question is do you tie up $20m next year or much less with a multi year deal?[/quote]

1st in completion percentage, 5th in rating, 8th in yards per attempt and 10th in passing yardage. I think he gets $20 mil on a long term deal with those numbers.

SFREDSKIN 01-12-2016 12:33 AM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
I'll say it again, Kirk had a bad game cause the OL played poorly allowing 6 sacks and being pressure constantly. As the OL goes so does the QB. Perfect example is Rogers, he had an excellent game cause his OL protected him unlike the last couple of weeks.

NC_Skins 01-12-2016 01:49 AM

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[quote=over the mountain;1137186]Cousins sounds like he is saying, "show me the money" and that he is going highest bidder. [/quote]


Even if that isn't his intentions or meaning, it should be. Let's be honest. Kirk wasn't given a fair shake due to Danny's love for RG3. Kirk was denied a QB competition that 3rd year because lil danny wanted his BFF to start. You don't think that isn't in the back of his mind?

If I were Kirk, I'd go to the highest bidder as well. Hell, even at the beginning of the year, we heard SS talk about how it was Snyder that Kirk needed to prove something to. (beyond Jay) Even that hug was awkward by Danny the other weekend. He knows good and damn well that Bruce and Danny didn't want him here.


That said, the risk you take by not signing him long term is the same risk the Raven faced. They went into that season haggling over 1mil/yr on a 15-16mil contract, and ended up having to pay him 20+ mil after that Super Bowl run (which is hurting that team big time). If you don't pay Kirk a 5yr/85-90mil contract and franchise him. Chances are, if he does very well that franchise year, that price tag will now vault from the 17-18mil/yr range to the 22-23mil/yr range.

I'd rather go with the 17/18mil/yr with a lower guaranteed than wait next year.

punch it in 01-12-2016 05:39 AM

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[QUOTE=htownskinfan;1137327]Whoa man calm down :) Focus on what I said in my last paragraph.Try to remember I am a Kirk supporter.

As for your last paragraph,so you're admitting he was pressing and didnt play well,lol

He hasnt had a running game all year,so nothing changed in that regard.Also the defense has sucked all year also for the most part.What changed yesterday is the defense didnt get any turnovers to help bail them out.[/QUOTE]


What I am admitting is there are other factors at play, other teammates at play, and that for you to blame Kirk for the loss is ridiculous. That is all.

punch it in 01-12-2016 05:44 AM

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1137317]u would think when guys like Trent say "we have our QB" and others have said this, that fans would be happy esp after 20 yrs of having none.[/QUOTE]


Rite....hey - some fans just need to complain. It is what they are used to and for good reason I guess. Lets have KC walk. Maybe we can find a guy that will break all Kirks records and do it against winning teams without a whole lotta help. Hell - those guys come around all the time.

30gut 01-12-2016 08:17 AM

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[quote=MTK;1137293]Question is do you tie up $20m next year or much less with a multi year deal?[/quote]If I'm the GM?

Not even considering the franchise tag; doing a multi-year deal all the way.

[quote=MTK;1137316]All this talk about the QB when the D was hot garbage. Typical.[/quote]It is the [U][I]Cousins[/I][/U] has arrived thread.

MTK 01-12-2016 09:26 AM

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[QUOTE=Buffalo Bob;1137328]1st in completion percentage, 5th in rating, 8th in yards per attempt and 10th in passing yardage. I think he gets $20 mil on a long term deal with those numbers.[/QUOTE]


It could come close to that on a yearly avg but his cap hit would be much less for the first couple of years.

htownskinfan 01-12-2016 09:41 AM

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[quote=punch it in;1137336]What I am admitting is there are other factors at play, other teammates at play, and that for you to blame Kirk for the loss is ridiculous. That is all.[/quote]

Where did I ever say I blamed Kirk for the loss?:saywhat:
I never said that and I never thought that.I said Kirk didnt play well in the 2nd half,but I was not placing the blame on him for the loss.
But if Kirk"s contract demands are going to be among the top qb's in the league,{which remains to be seen,but very likely}then being able to overcome adverse conditions{like in Sunday's game}and win is something he should have on his resume don't you think? Tampa game was a great steppingstone,but Tampa's not that good a team.

punch it in 01-12-2016 09:53 AM

Cousins has arrived
 
[QUOTE=htownskinfan;1137311]No I'm not taking it personally,I just remember you taking up for Griff amid my concerns(which by the way all turned out to be prophetic)way back when and continued to do so all the way up to Kirk being named the starter.
As far as you saying you support whoevers in the lineup its as simple as that,I cannot understand or comprehend that reasoning.I'm all for supporting your team but when someone's playing poorly and your making excuses for them or disagreeing with other people about their poor play just because they are in the lineup makes no sense to me.
Yes I did exaggerate about Cousins being compared to Hoyer and I admitted that,as far as a history of over exaggeration,we will have to disagree about that too.

It's not just one game that has me concerned,it's his career as a whole.
Yes he has great strides this season.
Yes the whole team was off yesterday,but Cousins throws in the 2nd half we're some of his worst since I don't know when,and if not for that amazing catch by Reed he would have had a pick 6,and it would have been very interesting to see how he would have handled it if that would have happened.
Hopefully it was just 1st timer playoff pressure getting to him and he will learn from it and be a better qb.
I guess reading about his having never beaten a team with a winning record combined with what I thought was a mostly bad 2nd half yesterday made me post what I did.
I guess what I should have said is I have my concerns over paying Kirk a shitload of money for someone who's never beaten a winning team and his body of work IMO is not long enough to warrant signing him to what might be top 5 qb pay,but at this point we have no choice but to do that or slap the franchise tag on him.[/QUOTE]


Yes the whole team was off yesterday, BUT COUSINS THROWS WERE BLAH BLAH BLAH.
Dont try n backtrack now. That there is a fine line you're walking if you say you never blamed Cousins, never thought that even?!? Lol. Come on man.
Edit: i dont really care, but like Matty said - the defense got absolutely torched Sunday and we are talking about the QB?!? The QB who didnt have a terrible game but was a little bit off?!? You are completely questioning KC at this point and good for you and your opinion. This is America.
However,like I have said to others,thank God you are not involved with the decision making process of this team. Lol.

htownskinfan 01-12-2016 10:06 AM

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1137344]Yes the whole team was off yesterday, BUT COUSINS THROWS WERE BLAH BLAH BLAH.
Dont try n backtrack now. That there is a fine line you're walking if you say you never blamed Cousins, never thought that even?!? Lol. Come on man.
Edit: i dont really care, but like Matty said - the defense got absolutely torched Sunday and we are talking about the QB?!? The QB who didnt have a terrible game but was a little bit off?!? You are completely questioning KC at this point and good for you and your opinion. This is America.
However,like I have said to others,thank God you are not involved with the decision making process of this team. Lol.[/QUOTE]


If I was involved with the decision-making this team would be a lot better off [emoji3]
It may have looked like from my post that I was blaming Kirk for the loss but that is not how I feel. I am not backtracking I never meant that he was the reason for the loss
I think my Brian Hoyer comment got you guys all in a hissy Yes I said it, was it an over exaggeration, yes it was. I admitted that, and I would like it stricken from the record.[emoji90]

30gut 01-12-2016 10:28 AM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
[url]https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/01/11/pro-gb-was-grades-clinton-dix-and-secondary-shut-down-cousins/[/url]

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–It certainly wasn’t a pretty day from Kirk Cousins (-4.7). His accuracy down the field was night and day from the quarterback we’ve seen the past few weeks. On passes targeted between 10-20 yards down the field, Cousins was only 2-of-10 passing for 36 yards. Green Bay forced check down after check down from Cousins and continually made the play. 17 of Cousins 29 completions came between the numbers and within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage.[/COLOR]

JoeRedskin 01-12-2016 10:39 AM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
KC did not have a good day.
The OLine did not have a good day.
The defense, as a whole, did not have a good day.

So ... a team - led by a QB with no starting play off experience, that had no run game, and had a questionable defense - lost to a coach and team that has won the SB, been a consistent play off team, and was led by last year's league MVP.

It happens.

punch it in 01-12-2016 10:40 AM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
Was not his sharpest of games by any means. But it was good enough for the win had the defense not played like a sieve. Couple that with a terrible attempt by Djax at getting the damn ball in the endzone and a missed extra point - and you have a loss. Those 5 points early would have changed some things. I also think those numbers were skewed by the fact that he was forced to go long alot and try to play catch up later in the game. The Pack obviously was not in the slightest bit afraid of our run game either. The bottom line is that with half of a better effort by our defense and run game Cousins played well enough for us to beat a very experienced playoff team.

JoeRedskin 01-12-2016 10:46 AM

Re: Cousins has arrived
 
As I have said consistently, even when doubting his long-term viability as a starter, KC is the guy next year. Based on his last 10 regular season games, he convinced me he is the guy for the next several years.

Over the year, KC has shown growth and improvement. I fully expect that he will do so again as we become regular playoff participants. It's a different game when moving from back-up to regular starter and, after some fits and starts, KC adapted just fine. Similarly, it's a different game in the Post Season where there are no gimme's, and KC will be learn that one as well.


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