Re: Scot McCloughan to be new Redskins GM
 

[quote=Chico23231;1103618]cap number, he became the no 2 by a good margin, had the new guy easily out pace his numbers and importance on the field, Shanny pick not Jay, new regime in FO


One thing working in his favor is the play of Andre Roberts[/quote]

There may be a cap management issue with Garcon's numbers, so they need to fix the cap problem. The player doesn't need fixing. Losing him would not make us better. He will continue to be a good player for years to come, so don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

Re: Scot McCloughan to be new Redskins GM
 

[quote=Schneed10;1103621]Garcon's not going anywhere because the McCloughan hire is a clear pivot towards the draft as the source of talent for this team. And since they have $20M in cap space for free agents already, and because they won't be looking to free agency for a huge talent bonanza, they won't feel the pressure to clear additional cap space by cutting Garcon.

He's very safe.[/quote]

The cap reason not the prevailing factor if he were to be cut, imo. But yeah McC is a draft guy, that could be another reason he might be let go.

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That makes zero sense, Chico.

If it's not a cap reason, then you must think it's a talent or fit reason to cut him. Which makes me question the way your brain works.

And I don't think McC would advocate cutting Garcon to add another receiver to take his place. Why would that make sense?

Re: Scot McCloughan to be new Redskins GM
 

[quote=Chico23231;1103627]The cap reason not the prevailing factor if he were to be cut, imo. But yeah McC is a draft guy, that could be another reason he might be let go.[/quote]

They couldeasily restructure his deal to pay him instead of cutting it may have to pay him dead cap

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It is funny what people fixate on; Garcon and Amerson. They both seem like low priorities to me.

I doubt they are racing through McC mind right now as things he has to do in his first month.

Re: Scot McCloughan to be new Redskins GM
 

[quote=Schneed10;1103629]That makes zero sense, Chico.

If it's not a cap reason, then you must think it's a talent or fit reason to cut him. Which makes me question the way your brain works.

And I don't think McC would advocate cutting Garcon to add another receiver to take his place. Why would that make sense?[/quote]

I feel like some of the posters on here are like Beatrice and the rest of us are the old ladies on the sofa. "This not how this works, this isn't how any of this works"

I am going to start calling off based posters on here Beatrice.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5fn087Jk4I[/url]

Re: Scot McCloughan to be new Redskins GM
 

[quote=Schneed10;1103629]That makes zero sense, Chico.

If it's not a cap reason, then you must think it's a talent or fit reason to cut him. Which makes me question the way your brain works.

And I don't think McC would advocate cutting Garcon to add another receiver to take his place. Why would that make sense?[/quote]

its just an opinion, but yeah I think the prevailing factor to being cut would just be performance on the field. I dont think he was that great this past year. I dont want to see him go.

I think the reason to cut and add would be to add more talent on the field...thats it.

And my brain is hurting today, but not because of the skins....which is an improvement!

Re: Scot McCloughan to be new Redskins GM
 

Not to mention we had crap starting at QB for 16 games this season. Garcon proved for two years he could be a reliable number 1 option if needed, and now we wanna get rid of him for what?

Re: Scot McCloughan to be new Redskins GM
 

[quote=mredskins;1103631]It is funny what people fixate on; Garcon and Amerson. They both seem like low priorities to me.

I doubt they are racing through McC mind right now as things he has to do in his first month.[/quote]

To compare Garcon to Amerson is like comparing LaVeon Bell to Roy Helu, big difference there. Not to mention you brought up Garcon if I am not mistaken.

Re: Scot McCloughan to be new Redskins GM
 

[quote=Chico23231;1103633]its just an opinion, but yeah I think the prevailing factor to being cut would just be performance on the field. I dont think he was that great this past year. I dont want to see him go.

I think the reason to cut and add would be to add more talent on the field...thats it.

And my brain is hurting today, but not because of the skins....which is an improvement![/quote]

OK I get it.

I think it's wrong to say Garcon wasn't good this year. I think the right way to say it is that he was way underutilized, partly because the Skins found a new dynamite downfield threat in Jackson, partly because the line couldn't protect adequately, and partly because the QB play was so sub-par.

If you cut Garcon and fix the offensive line and QB play, then WR will be a rate-limiting factor.

In other words: Garcon was not the problem. Someone else said it best, you'd be throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Re: Scot McCloughan to be new Redskins GM
 

Not to be a worry wort, but I still have yet to hear a formal deal being signed and completed. And the longer a deal is not signed, the more worried I am of the Redskins not being able to land McCloughan.

Re: Scot McCloughan to be new Redskins GM
 

I hope it happens.

From all the expert opinions, this guy is really good.

im interested to see what the power structure will be and see what he does this offseason.

schneed - my layperson opinion is that Allen has done a good job not handcuffing future caps with bad back loaded contracts. We also have some under performing or injured vets that can be cut at no real cap penalty.

are our present and future cap obligations in a very good position for McC to have a lot of freedom and options? i feel like for the first time in a long time, we have room and are not pressed up against the cap.

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[quote=OnceWeWereKings;1103614]Only acceptable if by light you mean ipa....[/quote]

[url=http://www.thrillist.com/drink/nation/why-i-hate-ipas-thrillist-nation]Why I hate IPAs - Thrillist[/url]

Re: Scot McCloughan to be new Redskins GM
 

[quote=skinsguy;1103639]Not to be a worry wort, but I still have yet to hear a formal deal being signed and completed. And the longer a deal is not signed, the more worried I am of the Redskins not being able to land McCloughan.[/quote]

The deal is done, the details that have to be worked out are very minor

Re: Scot McCloughan to be new Redskins GM
 

People want to get rid of Garcon? He's a good football player. The lack of production from the QB position has a lot to do with the lack of production from the WR one.