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[quote=NC_Skins;1056201]The difference is, Brady doesn't have that defense from the early to mid 2000s. Manning, well he's always had teams with sub-par defenses.[/quote]

Manning also had the weapons that Brady only had for 2 or 3 years and he won two MVP's those years.

I think both Manning and Brady have been great, but the Manning vs Brady talk has always been overhyped. They are both the same.

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Brady has zero WR weapons...Welker was a big loss, Gronk being hurt and Hernandez locked up.

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[quote=redskins5044;1056203]Brady has zero WR weapons...Welker was a big loss, Gronk being hurt and Hernandez locked up.[/quote]

The fact that NE made it as far as they did, shows how bad the AFC is, and how parody in the NFL, is a joke.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1056201]The difference is, Brady doesn't have that defense from the early to mid 2000s. Manning, well he's always had teams with sub-par defenses.[/quote]

And just like years past Manning has a crazy overloaded offense where as Brady has people you'd probably never heard of before each year. I'm sorry, but almost any starting quality QB in the league could get plugged into that offense and put up 300+ yards a game without breaking a sweat.

Brady haters will always say he's had help blah blah, fact is they showed the numbers the other day and it wasn't even close , manning has had way more help over the years. Both are great QBs it gets old hearing the same stuff about the 2.

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[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;1056205]And just like years past Manning has a crazy overloaded offense where as Brady has people you'd probably never heard of before this year. I'm sorry, but almost any starting quality QB in the league could get plugged into that offense and put up 300+ yards a game without breaking a sweat.[/quote]

I wouldn't go that far.

I think if you put Brady on Denver or Indy back then, he does just as same as Manning, and if you put Manning on the early NE teams, he also wins a couple of super bowls. Not sure he wins three but I think the view on Manning would be very different as far as a postseason failure.

[QUOTE=donofriose;1056204]The fact that NE made it as far as they did, shows how bad the AFC is, and how parody in the NFL, is a joke.[/QUOTE]

Exactly, no way this pats team should have won 12 games , who is their big name playmaker?? On either side of the ball... It shows how great BB and TB really are.

[QUOTE=skinsfanthru&thru;1056205]And just like years past Manning has a crazy overloaded offense where as Brady has people you'd probably never heard of before each year. I'm sorry, but almost any starting quality QB in the league could get plugged into that offense and put up 300+ yards a game without breaking a sweat.[/QUOTE]

Some people just are haters man , u just have to understand that. NC is cool but he's a well known Brady hater lol , tom could win 5 rings and he'd say it was the D that won for him

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[quote=donofriose;1056207]I wouldn't go that far.

I think if you put Brady on Denver or Indy back then, he does just as same as Manning, and if you put Manning on the early NE teams, he also wins a couple of super bowls. Not sure he wins three but I think the view on Manning would be very different as far as a postseason failure.[/quote]

I honestly don't think so, but they are very different types of QB's as manning has always been the wing it around a majority of the time QB with the flashier stats whom you honestly had a feeling if a game was close it could go either way with him leading the team to victory or defeat, whereas other than the one year teamed up with Moss, Brady has always come across as the game manager who stayed cool and clutch if the game was close near the end and you thought their team had a chance to win it. But with these two QB's, both have had careers others would sell their souls for so I'm sure both are pretty happy with their lives and those of us discussing it on websites like this doesn't cause them to lose a second of sleep.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1056209]Some people just are haters man , u just have to understand that. NC is cool but he's a well known Brady hater lol , tom could win 5 rings and he'd say it was the D that won for him[/quote]

D didn't win it for him but D was a big reason he has three.

To be a dynasty you need a great defense, great offense and a great set of special teams. That is why they become dynasties.

[QUOTE=donofriose;1056211]D didn't win it for him but D was a big reason he has three.

To be a dynasty you need a great defense, great offense and a great set of special teams. That is why they become dynasties.[/QUOTE]

Exactly

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[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;1056205]And just like years past Manning has a crazy overloaded offense where as Brady has people you'd probably never heard of before each year. I'm sorry, but almost any starting quality QB in the league could get plugged into that offense and put up 300+ yards a game without breaking a sweat.[/quote]

Which is why Tebow had a 8-8 record with them?

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1056213]Which is why Tebow had a 8-8 record with them?[/QUOTE]

To be fair Tim did win a playoff game with Denver, that team is stacked on offense

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Brady v. Manning is overhyped. Neither would be anything if they didn't have 10 other guys on offense helping them out, as well as an entire defense supporting their leads and special teams helping them out. That's why they always give credit to their supporting cast, because they know they are the voice of an entire team. I think both are amongst the all-time greats at qb, but I don't care to rank which is better than the other. Both of them have put up amazing numbers with and without great supporting casts, although Brady has more seasons with the latter.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1056213]Which is why Tebow had a 8-8 record with them?[/quote]

He made it just as far in the playoffs as Peyton Manning did last year.

And Tebow went 7-4. Orton went 1-4.