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Gruden isn't coming back

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1031106]Gruden isn't coming back[/quote]

Gruden should go to USC, but he wont

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I wouldn't can u imagine how fun his life is right now?? Screw all that stress

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Why is Gruden regarded as some guru? Did everybody just happen to erase the Bucs record and drafting after the SB? He had one season over 10 wins after the SB win, and that was coming in a division that sucked at the time.

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^ 95-81 overall record.... not great

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[quote=NC_Skins;1031111]Why is Gruden regarded as some guru? Did everybody just happen to erase the Bucs record and drafting after the SB? He had one season over 10 wins after the SB win, and that was coming in a division that sucked at the time.[/quote]

I think it's because he had success quite young. Another reason is his constant high energy and charisma. Like it or not games (especially close ones) are often won or lost on effort and inspiration. Guys like Gruden, Pete Carroll, the Chin and Sean Peyton just to make a short list, who are totally engaged and even psyched on the sidelines seem to consistently get great performances from their players.

But your point Gruden isn't a great roster builder is pretty accurate, at least historically. Thing is, that's true of a lot of SB winning coaches i.e. they walk into a situation with a lot of the pieces, namely QB, already in place to be successful. I think it's a pretty rare brain who can both team build and coach at a championship level, withstanding the test of time.

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I like Jon Gruden but i didn't like the way he disrespected Jeff Garcia in 2008 when he benched him for Brian Griese because of something behind the scenes. Griese sucked and it was only when the team went like 0-3 with Griese that Gruden went back to Jeff Garcia, who still took the team to the playoffs...

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Gruden with the Raiders; Very good.

Gruden with the Bucs; average at best. The super bowl he won was with all of Dungy's players, and against the team he had just coached of course he knew their tendencies.

Gruden is a decent coach in my opinion.

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Y'all are worrying about the wrong Gruden

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[quote=SmootSmack;1031211]Y'all are worrying about the wrong Gruden[/quote]

So Jay is on the Redskins radar?

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[quote=SmootSmack;1031211]Y'all are worrying about the wrong Gruden[/quote]

You're such a gdamn tease with this stuff.

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[quote=The Goat;1031214]You're such a gdamn tease with this stuff.[/quote]

It's what I do

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[quote=SmootSmack;1031211]Y'all are worrying about the wrong Gruden[/quote]

Hey, Jay Gruden is a hell of an OC.

I really thought Trestmann would be a good HC and so far, so good.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1031218]Hey, Jay Gruden is a hell of an OC.

I really thought Trestmann would be a good HC and so far, so good.[/quote]

I'm kind of eh on J. Gruden

I've known Trestman for years, big fan of his.

Funny story about him and the Redskins....

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[quote=SmootSmack;1031225]I'm kind of eh on J. Gruden

I've known Trestman for years, big fan of his.

Funny story about him and the Redskins....[/quote]

Which is??