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NC_Skins 09-18-2013 01:57 PM

Re: One Night Only: Offensive Packers-Redskins Game Review, Mythbusters Edition
 
[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1026602]Thats good to know. Any word on if Has is going to come back to the sidelines?[/quote]

We could use the extra person to help tackle. :laughing-

skinsfaninok 09-18-2013 04:53 PM

Re: One Night Only: Offensive Packers-Redskins Game Review, Mythbusters Edition
 
[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9688666/robert-griffin-iii-washington-redskins-says-adrian-peterson-raise-expectations-others-knee-injuries]Robert Griffin III of Washington Redskins says Adrian Peterson didn't raise expectations for others with knee injuries - ESPN[/url]

punch it in 09-18-2013 06:38 PM

One Night Only: Offensive Packers-Redskins Game Review, Mythbusters Edition
 
[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1026691][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9688666/robert-griffin-iii-washington-redskins-says-adrian-peterson-raise-expectations-others-knee-injuries]Robert Griffin III of Washington Redskins says Adrian Peterson didn't raise expectations for others with knee injuries - ESPN[/url][/QUOTE]

Listening to nfl radio today and they were talking at length about Griff and AP and also Peyton Manning. In AP's first two games back he was on pace for almost half of what he wound up with. Also Manning was 0-2 and had worse numbers than Griff through his first two games. The reason Griff is drawing so much attention and scrutiny is because he himself raised expectaions. The entire off season was the "all in for week one" campaign.
Anyway hearing about AP and Peyton gave me hope that Griff will come through this mentally and physically.
Edit: 2-3, not 0-2 for denver

over the mountain 09-18-2013 09:46 PM

Re: One Night Only: Offensive Packers-Redskins Game Review, Mythbusters Edition
 
Great write up gtripp. Thank you for putting the time in.

SBXVII 09-19-2013 08:42 AM

Re: One Night Only: Offensive Packers-Redskins Game Review, Mythbusters Edition
 
Here is a good write up.

[URL="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000246527/article/the-quarterback-index-ryan-tannehill-rgiii-trend-up"]The Quarterback Index: Ryan Tannehill, RGIII trend up - NFL.com[/URL]

[QUOTE]Trending up

[B]Robert Griffin III[/B], Washington Redskins: RGIII took a step forward. Once we get past the histrionic analysis about benching Griffin, there's no denying he was more accurate in Week 2. He made a number of nice throws. His biggest problem came in setting protection and recognizing blitzes.

Pressure overwhelmed the Redskins' offense early in Sunday's game. Teams are blitzing the Redskins with impunity, and Washington doesn't have great answers. But Griffin was down 17-0 against Green Bay before he made a mistake. His interception came off a drop. I'm not a quarterback tutor and won't pretend to analyze his mechanics. But a lot of the issues he's being criticized for (throwing while backpedaling) were evident last season. Griffin made a lot of nice throws to well-covered receivers against the Packers, and that has nothing to do with the score.

The Redskins' problems go beyond RGIII. They are trying to change their offense on the fly. They have called just five zone-read plays in two weeks, with virtually no called runs for Griffin. The running game isn't the same without the threat of RGIII running. It's an adjustment period as the Shanahans figure out how to call games with Griffin 2.0, but it can be done. And they don't have time to adjust because their defense is historically bad.[/QUOTE]

SBXVII 09-19-2013 08:57 AM

Re: One Night Only: Offensive Packers-Redskins Game Review, Mythbusters Edition
 
[quote=GTripp0012;1026615]The most common play they run from pistol is the stretch. The second most common is their play action series. Read option is probably the most common play after that, but I don't know of any game where they ran it more than five or six times.

I think -- and you point this out -- the fact that the team may not be good enough to overcome some run of the mill offensive struggles is probably the biggest story through two weeks, not RG3's knee/confidence.[/quote]

RG3 may have only ran it 5 or 6 times per game, but the fact remains they used the pistol more and RG3 was a viable threat to run. He could have ran it all 35 times they were in the pistol, although he didn't. This year I just feel opponents are of the mind set of prove to us you can run then we will do something different. Until then we will stack the box and come after you.

Basically their gambling RG3 and the coaching staff will not have him running and it's paid off. The Skins have bluffed and the opponents have called us on it and they won.

"IF" RG3 is healthy then he needs to do what he did last year with caution. Run the ball, slide or get down ahead of time. But be the threat.

GTripp0012 09-20-2013 12:48 PM

Re: One Night Only: Offensive Packers-Redskins Game Review, Mythbusters Edition
 
[quote=SBXVII;1026788]RG3 may have only ran it 5 or 6 times per game, but the fact remains they used the pistol more and RG3 was a viable threat to run. He could have ran it all 35 times they were in the pistol, although he didn't. This year I just feel opponents are of the mind set of prove to us you can run then we will do something different. Until then we will stack the box and come after you.

Basically their gambling RG3 and the coaching staff will not have him running and it's paid off. The Skins have bluffed and the opponents have called us on it and they won.

"IF" RG3 is healthy then he needs to do what he did last year with caution. Run the ball, slide or get down ahead of time. But be the threat.[/quote]The biggest difference between what our average opponent did last season and what Green Bay and Philly have done this year is blitz the crap out of us. And, yeah, a blitz heavy gameplan is a really bad idea if the first blitzer who gets to the quarterback can't bring him down -- it's almost certainly going to lead to a big play at that point.

I doubt RG3's knee is strong enough for him to reliably break tackles in the pocket, although that was never really his game to begin with.

The bigger issue is that the pressure schemes we have faced have exposed flaws in the offense. These flaws were probably there last season, but defensive coordinators played scared against us.

This one is on Kyle to show he can scheme against a hyper aggressive defense. We've seen Kyle's offense torch passive defenses for years, regardless of who is playing quarterback. But we haven't seen a lot of plays called that would force defenses to play us straight up.

I thought we started to see some signs of that against Green Bay. WR screens to Garcon, as well as a RB screen or two, and crossing up the defense with runs in potential passing situations are all ways to force a defense out of it's pressure schemes. But until we focus on beating big blitzes, this offense will continue to struggle against them.

Although once RG3 breaks a long run against a big blitz, I predict DCs will go back to playing scared against us, and then things will return to normal.


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