Re: Jets being investigated for harassment of female Mexican reporter
 

[quote=SmootSmack;733635]I think in a way she's being used as a "martyr" This is getting out of the message of ensuring there is fair treatment of all reporters, regardless of gender. Truthfully though, it's not a major issue (not like it used to be), though it still is to an extent. I suspect this story will fade away soon.[/quote]

SS One thing that makes this story unique in comparison to so many others is, it involved an episode having to do with what was perceived to be disrespect for a female member of the media. It's only natural that her fellow comrades come to her defense.

While I agree this story will soon become a non-issue, in the meantime there's still that lingering question in the minds of many people as to: Why it's so important to the NFL [or any party for that matter] to make it mandate women be allowed access to the locker-rooms of players when foresight should remind them of the potential problems it could pose? I have a hard time trying to distinguish reward vs. risk even though I'm mindful of the fact it's their job.

I'm trying to understand why male reporters wouldn't be the more appropiate way to get the message out. Members of the media [especially female] must recognize the inherent dangers of just being there, despite the fact we may want to think players are going to conduct themselves in a professional manner. This episode serves to demonstrate that's not always the case, making it unwise to asume.

Common sense begs me to understand how/why female reporters being allowed unfettered access to male locker rooms would not somehow create an uncomfortable atmosphere for both parties. Thus, the unanswered question....Why do it when you have a more viable alternative which in all probability would have reduced the risk of what we just witnessed happening.

Thoughts!

Re: Jets being investigated for harassment of female Mexican reporter
 

[quote=SmootSmack;733641]Teams have 10 -15 minutes before reporters are allowed in. Not every player gets dressed right away, reporters have deadlines to meet, and you (the universal you) want constant news and info...so it's not that simple[/quote]

If all reporters had to wait 30min then wouldn't everyone just change their deadlines that amount of time? Not sure whay its such a big deal to get interviews so quick. After a win I really don't care what they have to say and after a loss who really wants to hear the winning team gloat.

Re: Jets being investigated for harassment of female Mexican reporter
 

[quote=Longtimefan;733681]SS One thing that makes this story unique in comparison to so many others is, it involved an episode having to do with what was perceived to be disrespect for a female member of the media. It's only natural that her fellow comrades come to her defense.

While I agree this story will soon become a non-issue, in the meantime there's still that lingering question in the minds of many people as to: Why it's so important to the NFL [or any party for that matter] to make it mandate women be allowed access to the locker-rooms of players when foresight should remind them of the potential problems it could pose? I have a hard time trying to distinguish reward vs. risk even though I'm mindful of the fact it's their job.

I'm trying to understand why male reporters wouldn't be the more appropiate way to get the message out. Members of the media [especially female] must recognize the inherent dangers of just being there, despite the fact we may want to think players are going to conduct themselves in a professional manner. This episode serves to demonstrate that's not always the case, making it unwise to asume.

Common sense begs me to understand how/why female reporters being allowed unfettered access to male locker rooms would not somehow create an uncomfortable atmosphere for both parties. Thus, the unanswered question....Why do it when you have a more viable alternative which in all probability would have reduced the risk of what we just witnessed happening.

Thoughts![/quote]

Male reporters are allowed in female locker rooms for discreet time windows. Vice versa for women in men's locker rooms. This must be done for the sake of fairness. Otherwise discrimination is created in terms of employment for reporters. Put differently, since men's sports are the big money/big awareness sports, to bar women from locker rooms bars them from rising in their chosen professions. And that's not fair.

All the guys in the locker room (which is not just a locker room, but a professional work place) know when they might have visitors. It's not like female reporters just show up by surprise.

Re: Jets being investigated for harassment of female Mexican reporter
 

[quote=Mechanix544;733672]This is a MEN'S LOCKER ROOM.
Now we expect "professionalism" in locker rooms of all places?
Is there no sanctuary, no last bastion of raw, unadulterated tribal machismo, no place where testosterone can flow freely?
(Besides Childress's chin?)

When men can't act like, well, men, among fellow teammates in the privacy and sanctity of their own locker room, what's next?

I can't burp and fart and swear and make fun of people's mothers in the comfort and privacy of my own home?

She was in THEIR domain--what did she expect? 53 Knights in Shining Armor to strew a path of rose petals in front of her, serenade her with Jewel songs, and chit chat with her about doilies and the latest episode of Oprah? Get real.

Women want to be treated equally--equal access and all that--then quit yer bitchin' when you actually get it.[/quote]

Well said. :goodjob:

Re: Jets being investigated for harassment of female Mexican reporter
 

[quote=firstdown;733687]If all reporters had to wait 30min then wouldn't everyone just change their deadlines that amount of time? Not sure whay its such a big deal to get interviews so quick. After a win I really don't care what they have to say and after a loss who really wants to hear the winning team gloat.[/quote]

You can't sit around and delay the time newspapers have to go to press or the news starts. It doesn't work that way.

Re: Jets being investigated for harassment of female Mexican reporter
 

[quote=Longtimefan;733681]SS One thing that makes this story unique in comparison to so many others is, it involved an episode having to do with what was perceived to be disrespect for a female member of the media. It's only natural that her fellow comrades come to her defense.

While I agree this story will soon become a non-issue, in the meantime there's still that lingering question in the minds of many people as to: Why it's so important to the NFL [or any party for that matter] to make it mandate women be allowed access to the locker-rooms of players when foresight should remind them of the potential problems it could pose? I have a hard time trying to distinguish reward vs. risk even though I'm mindful of the fact it's their job.

I'm trying to understand why male reporters wouldn't be the more appropiate way to get the message out. Members of the media [especially female] must recognize the inherent dangers of just being there, despite the fact we may want to think players are going to conduct themselves in a professional manner. This episode serves to demonstrate that's not always the case, making it unwise to asume.

Common sense begs me to understand how/why female reporters being allowed unfettered access to male locker rooms would not somehow create an uncomfortable atmosphere for both parties. Thus, the unanswered question....Why do it when you have a more viable alternative which in all probability would have reduced the risk of what we just witnessed happening.

Thoughts![/quote]

See post #103

But it's not just about the locker room truthfully, it's about giving female sports journalists the proper respect for them to do their job. There's a strong misconception that they don't belong in the pro sports field, which is simply not true and ignorant

Re: Jets being investigated for harassment of female Mexican reporter
 

The NFL should take a stand and ban her!

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[quote=SmootSmack;733755]See post #103

But it's not just about the locker room truthfully, it's about giving female sports journalists the proper respect for them to do their job. There's a strong misconception that they don't belong in the pro sports field, which is simply not true and ignorant[/quote]

I'm sure those who act professionally and take their job seriously get respect.

This woman is out to get her 15 minutes of fame. She's an attention whore.

I heard an interview with her yesterday. She said that she didn't think any of their behavior was a big deal and she wasn't offended at all. Then, another female reporter in the locker room (probably an ugly one) pushed the issue and wouldn't let it go...talking her into making it public that what they did was "offensive" and "harassment"

She had an "I don't care" attitude and was laughing about the incidents at practice and in the locker room. Honestly, she sounded like an airhead.

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[quote=Buster;733764]I'm sure those who act professionally and take their job seriously get respect.

This woman is out to get her 15 minutes of fame. She's an attention whore.[/quote]

There are plenty that don't, as evidenced by Portis' comments.

And clearly from some of the posts here, there are many in the general public who don't give them their proper respect.

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Aside from personal respect for other people...most of the media in general doesn't do a lot to earn respect. But, as human beings, they deserve respect just for being people...but professionally...they lost most peoples' respect.

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[quote=Buster;733764]I'm sure those who act professionally and take their job seriously get respect.

This woman is out to get her 15 minutes of fame. She's an attention whore.[/quote]

NFL Network just started taping a reality dating show starring Ines Sainz. Now what?

Re: Jets being investigated for harassment of female Mexican reporter
 

Funny, I thought we were over this women reporters in the locker room thing about 10 years ago.

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So is it possible that some in sports journalism don't want her to dress in the way she does? By forcing this issue to light, which doesn't seem to be her desire (see my post 95), she gets a lot of flak for the way she dresses.

I remember when I was going to school in Boston, there were girls who came to town dressing really sexy in the fall and then they suddenly stopped. I asked if it was because of abuse from the guys. They said no, it was abuse from catty females. (I went to a school with an 8:1 ratio, so there weren't many women to ask at my school.)

As far as the way she looks, she WAS voted 5th sexiest sports broadcaster (behind Erin Andrews?!) in the world by fhmonline. So she also needs to maintain her image (i.e. not be a frump.)

When will people learn that if the person supposedly offended isn't bothered then there is no story? (The "really uncomfortable" quote, which most people are using as an excuse to continue this, is debunked in post 95.)

[quote=SmootSmack;733635]I think in a way she's being used as a "martyr" This is getting out of the message of ensuring there is fair treatment of all reporters, regardless of gender. Truthfully though, it's not a major issue (not like it used to be), though it still is to an extent. I suspect this story will fade away soon.[/quote]

Re: Jets being investigated for harassment of female Mexican reporter
 

How about some hot female mods? Equal opportunity employment?

Re: Jets being investigated for harassment of female Mexican reporter
 

[quote=diehard;733782]How about some hot female mods? Equal opportunity employment?[/quote]

The next hot female mod will be the first hot female mod.