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[quote=Ruhskins;683582]Once again, please someone tell me where Haynesworth has said something?

All he has said is that he'd prefer to play DE in the 3-4, but he will play whatever they have him play on defense (which I find it odd that people here who always quote the "square peg in round hole" cliche would disagree).

Haynesworth was here for the first day of "voluntary" workouts, and just as with some other players, he decided not to participate and told the team that he would workout on his own ahead of time. Shanahan, being no pushover of course said that he was disappointed, but he also said that he respected AH's decision.

I still don't see any drama here, and honestly people are just blowing things out of proportion. I recall the situation when Springs wasn't showing up for OTAs and Gibbs telling the press that he couldn't even get in touch with him and teammates like Phillip Daniel calling Springs out. Granted, that Springs wasn't given 41 mil guaranteed, but still people act like Haynesworth ran out of Redskins Park yelling and screaming.[/quote]

Let's just see where Al is when training camp starts. Last year is over with. But I don't want to see him crying about where they're going to play him when the season starts. You're getting 40 mil so do what the coaches tell you to do and be in tip top shape.

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i dont care whether Haynesworth is a problem here or not - i'd rather have a young, quality left tackle to protect mcnabb than have haynesworth play 3-4 NT or RDE 60% of our defensive snaps. we've switched to a 3-4 defense, which he doesnt really fit, and we just traded for a QB - and that trade will be for nothing if he's not protected.

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My only problem with getting rid of Haynesworth is due to the fact that Shanahan has had trouble with defense for a while now. I figured that getting Haynesworth would at least provide a high floor. Man Rolando McClain would be perfect for this team though but it sounds like we're not getting a first round pick.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;683929]sometimes the font just isn't small enough, huh? trading for brandon marshall was one of the first things i thought we'd do after signing mcnabb, although i think it would require more than landry and kelly to get marshall. not sure id want to give up more for him than that, though. the idea of having marshall and thomas on the outside with tana in the slot is pretty sick, though. anything out there about trading one of our TEs?

thanks for posting brown and bushrod's player profiles. is there a reason neither of them show up on the teams roster page on nfl.com? (thats where i looked) also, how would either of them do in shanahan's scheme? personally, id rather do rogers and monty for bushrod and a 3rd/4th. he's younger and i'd love to have the 3rd or 4th.[/quote]
could be because they're RFA's.. they usually separate those out.. not sure about on NFL.com but on the team pages, wiki, etc

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Fences to mend? The only fence to mend is shipping that "fat fuck" out of town. What a waste of money (once again).

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[quote=Dirtbag359;684214]My only problem with getting rid of Haynesworth is due to the fact that Shanahan has had trouble with defense for a while now. I figured that getting Haynesworth would at least provide a high floor. Man Rolando McClain would be perfect for this team though but it sounds like we're not getting a first round pick.[/quote]

well if we got a 2nd for haynesworth and traded down with a team like sanfrancisco, we could certainly use one of those picks on McClain. I have the feeling the skins (and other teams) are going to be very very busy in the weeks leading up to, and during, the draft.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;684244]Fences to mend? The only fence to mend is shipping that "fat fuck" out of town. What a waste of money (once again).[/quote]

Yeah, our sacks were cut in half when fatso came in and did absolutely nothing! :doh:

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[quote=Buster;684288]Yeah, our sacks were cut in half when fatso came in and did absolutely nothing! :doh:[/quote]

I never said that he didn't make a difference, the problem is he is getting a lot money and not living to expectations, has his own agenda which includes not listening to the new coach and also not being a team player.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;684351]I never said that he didn't make a difference, the problem is he is getting a lot money and not living to expectations, has his own agenda which includes not listening to the new coach and also not being a team player.[/quote]

A) the money is between him and the team - who cares
B) He met people's expectations for those who were expecting him to be the player he always has been, he didn't meet the expectations of people who thought his price tag reflected a change from who he was
C) What does it mean to have his own agenda?
D) He came in the first day - thus he listened to the coach literally, not necessarily in spirit
E) I guess he's not, but he is still a team player on the field and at mandatory practices.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;684368]A) the money is between him and the team - who cares
B) He met people's expectations for those who were expecting him to be the player he always has been, he didn't meet the expectations of people who thought his price tag reflected a change from who he was
C) What does it mean to have his own agenda?
D) He came in the first day - thus he listened to the coach literally, not necessarily in spirit
E) I guess he's not, but he is still a team player on the field and at mandatory practices.[/quote]

Then why are Shanahan and Bruce Allen shopping him around? Something is fishy around here.

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Haynesworth is very risk-averse after last season. That has begun his undoing. I like him and I think he's a stud, but Shanahan will boot him like he has done with others unless he simply can't move him.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;684373]Then why are Shanahan and Bruce Allen shopping him around? Something is fishy around here.[/quote]
might not be the best fit for their scheme.. most potential return

we're not the only team that pulls these moves

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;684373]Then why are Shanahan and Bruce Allen shopping him around? Something is fishy around here.[/quote]

Well, I think not showing up for the later dates did tick Shanny off, and at the least he wants AH to know he can be traded. And BA is clearly calling, checking seeing what he can get for who. It's called due diligence. And finally, I don't think Shanny is tied to any player on this team at this point except DMcNabb. That's his guy, everyone else, the team is bigger than the player.