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Price just went up. Jets just paid Garrett $130M over 4 years with $90M guaranteed. Maybe that translates to $30M for 3 years, but still.


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[quote=calia;1375034]Price just went up. Jets just paid Garrett $130M over 4 years with $90M guaranteed. Maybe that translates to $30M for 3 years, but still.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/quote]His delaying Mclaurin's deserved raise and appropriately addressing the edge position are odd to me from Peters, especially after losing our top sack man from last season. Just hope he has a plan for Mclaurin. Mclaurin is serious about this potential holdout. Camp is getting closer.

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[QUOTE=WCommandersfan99;1375036]His delaying Mclaurin's deserved raise and appropriately addressing the edge position are odd to me from Peters, especially after losing our top sack man from last season. Just hope he has a plan for Mclaurin. Mclaurin is serious about this potential holdout. Camp is getting closer.[/QUOTE]


This team was so full of holes when he got here. Secondary, Oline, etc etc etc.

I still think our improved secondary will help the edge. As far as Terry - well I will just keep praying. Lol.

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[quote=punch it in;1375037]This team was so full of holes when he got here. Secondary, Oline, etc etc etc.

I still think our improved secondary will help the edge. As far as Terry - well I will just keep praying. Lol.[/quote]Peters has neglected the edge position this offseason and lost Fowler. Everyone knows how strongly I feel about this. Kinlaw is for all intents and purposes a gamble at this point. PFF currently has Commanders' dline as the 2nd worst entering the 2025 season.

[url]https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2025-nfl-defensive-line-rankings[/url]

Not going to cut it at all. Improved secondary will help edge, but you still need legitimate pass rushers.

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[QUOTE=calia;1375034]Price just went up. Jets just paid Garrett $130M over 4 years with $90M guaranteed. Maybe that translates to $30M for 3 years, but still.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]price may have stabilized. Garret is younger, so he has a lower and upper bound between Tee Higgins and Garrett. I doubt Garrett's moved McLaurin's up.

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[QUOTE=WCommandersfan99;1375038]Peters has neglected the edge position this offseason and lost Fowler. Everyone knows how strongly I feel about this. Kinlaw is for all intents and purposes a gamble at this point. PFF currently has Commanders' dline as the 2nd worst entering the 2025 season.



[url]https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2025-nfl-defensive-line-rankings[/url]



Not going to cut it at all. Improved secondary will help edge, but you still need legitimate pass rushers.[/QUOTE]

While coaches often think higher of themselves then they should, I don't see a DQ team having the 2nd worst DLine. Top 10 maybe not but certainly top 15.

I would be curious how pff graded our line with Fowler at this point last year.
Our back 7 will definitely improve.

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Art Monk’s #81 gets retired during the Seahawks game. Good for Art.

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[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45746924/commanders-terry-mclaurin-frustrated-lack-contract-talks[/url]

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[quote=punch it in;1375042][url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45746924/commanders-terry-mclaurin-frustrated-lack-contract-talks[/url][/quote]

Still time

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Terry’s interview

[url]https://youtu.be/f4-5GhIxQnc?si=uLnBguQPfJECDCLu[/url]

I figure there will either be a short holdout or this will get ugly and Terry gets traded.

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Im just confused about what is going to change between now and camp starting. Id imagine we are aware of what he is asking for right? It is either yes or no….
Is one side bluffing??

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[quote=punch it in;1375045]Im just confused about what is going to change between now and camp starting. Id imagine we are aware of what he is asking for right? It is either yes or no….
Is one side bluffing??[/quote]

According to Terry, no discussions in a month. Time to get talking. The team can structure the contract; so Terry gets paid but it also makes it easier for us to move on from him, if needed in a couple of years.

Terry just had his best year with a rookie qb. I can’t see that dropping off, just because he turns 30.

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[quote=punch it in;1375045]Im just confused about what is going to change between now and camp starting. Id imagine we are aware of what he is asking for right? It is either yes or no….
Is one side bluffing??[/quote]

Lot of organization is on vacation right now. They probably have a solid offer in mind, just a matter of time.

My call gonna be 30.5-31.5 per

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I dont see his production dropping off at all either, if had a good quarterback all these years he would be a first ballot hall of famer. I think the best is still to come.

Yeah those numbers sound about right Chico. I will continue to hold my breath.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1375047]Lot of organization is on vacation right now. They probably have a solid offer in mind, just a matter of time.



My call gonna be 30.5-31.5 per[/QUOTE]If there is a sticking point ( and I agree that the FO just is not in a hurry) it probably is over length of contract. They don't want to be working out Terry's numbers when JD5's contract comes up.

My guess is that every contract written from this point forward will be evaluated in the light of JD5's extension.

That said I am also sure JD5's mom is watching how these negotiations are handled.

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The cap is going up every year. While you don’t know how much, you can average out; the average yearly increase.

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just get it the fuck done. plain and simple. enough of this shit.

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To all the people on this board who say this isn't a big deal and will get done please read the following:

[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/terry-mclaurin-landing-spots-potential-trade-suitors-as-wr-frustrated-with-commanders-amid-contract-dispute/[/url]
[I]
"A month after skipping the Commanders' mandatory minicamp, McLaurin also indicated [B]he's prepared to extend his holdout[/B], suggesting that "without any progressive discussions" related to a new deal, "it's kind of hard to see how I step on the field" for Washington."[/I]

My biggest concern in this is far off on the numbers they are. Like 18 million annually. If Terry gets greedy or Peters balks at his demands this may not get done. Frustrating.

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im holding out hope that its just weird timing but... i dont know.. will wait to react or hedge an opinion on one side or the other until the outcome is done.

i vote sign the fucking guy and pay him. period.

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[quote=Meks;1375053]im holding out hope that its just weird timing but... i dont know.. will wait to react or hedge an opinion on one side or the other until the outcome is done.

i vote sign the fucking guy and pay him. period.[/quote]

we all love terry

the only issue with terry is his age and you got be careful not to strap yourself financial to a guy who most likely is on the down slope

it sucks

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[quote=mredskins;1375054]we all love terry

the only issue with terry is his age and you got be careful not to strap yourself financial to a guy who most likely is on the down slope

it sucks[/quote]

The one thing to point out, Terry himself has said he hasn't got the mileage or injury history to date many of his peers of a similar age have had. He could well go 6, 7 or even 8 more years. Signing him to a 3 or 4 year deal now is lower risk than, say, Metcalf's extension.

The question I ask is do they have irons in the fire on other signings and that' causing them pause? Are they still looking at Hendrickson and want to know what that outcome could be before committing to Terry? Committing to Terry and Hendrickson might leave them light for extending Daniels as well as putting weapons around him.

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1375052]To all the people on this board who say this isn't a big deal and will get done please read the following:

[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/terry-mclaurin-landing-spots-potential-trade-suitors-as-wr-frustrated-with-commanders-amid-contract-dispute/[/url]
[I]
"A month after skipping the Commanders' mandatory minicamp, McLaurin also indicated [B]he's prepared to extend his holdout[/B], suggesting that "without any progressive discussions" related to a new deal, "it's kind of hard to see how I step on the field" for Washington."[/I]

My biggest concern in this is far off on the numbers they are. Like 18 million annually. If Terry gets greedy or Peters balks at his demands this may not get done. Frustrating.[/quote]

I cannot imagine that they're off by $18M/yr, if that's what your note indicates. Most estimate that he's looking for ~$30M, and if we're only offering $12M, he should tell us to suck it. In fact, that number would be so insultingly low, it's hard to imagine we can get things on track. But I cannot imagine that's where the parties are here.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1375055]The one thing to point out, Terry himself has said he hasn't got the mileage or injury history to date many of his peers of a similar age have had. He could well go 6, 7 or even 8 more years. Signing him to a 3 or 4 year deal now is lower risk than, say, Metcalf's extension.

The question I ask is do they have irons in the fire on other signings and that' causing them pause? Are they still looking at Hendrickson and want to know what that outcome could be before committing to Terry? Committing to Terry and Hendrickson might leave them light for extending Daniels as well as putting weapons around him.[/quote]

the above part of this - i do not see him as a typical 30 yr old wr - im not sure who does - when comes to mileage and injury history. The way he takes care of himself and works? Nah man, i cant see a down slope. Father time might be undefeated but Terry is good competition IMO

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[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45758874/von-miller-join-commanders-one-year-deal-source-says[/url]

Please have some magic left!

Maybe now they will sign Terry.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1375059][url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45758874/von-miller-join-commanders-one-year-deal-source-says[/url]

Please have some magic left!

Maybe now they will sign Terry.[/QUOTE]


Can’t say I’m excited about this. He didn’t show much last year. Clowney’s numbers were better and he’s a better run stopper too.

But what do I know. I trust AP’s judgment far more than my own.


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[quote=punch it in;1375059][url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45758874/von-miller-join-commanders-one-year-deal-source-says[/url]

Please have some magic left!

Maybe now they will sign Terry.[/quote]Finally. Peters does something to bolster the pass rusher. Dude was a beast back in the day. Imagine he has something left in the tank.

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[quote=calia;1375056]I cannot imagine that they're off by $18M/yr, if that's what your note indicates. Most estimate that he's looking for ~$30M, and if we're only offering $12M, he should tell us to suck it. In fact, that number would be so insultingly low, it's hard to imagine we can get things on track. But I cannot imagine that's where the parties are here.[/quote]His contract this year is currently around 22 million. Chase is the highest paid at over 40 million yearly. This is the worst case scenario if he gets too greedy. Agree doubtful it does but a pushy agent can be highly influential. Just get it done. Will be interesting and highly monitored how this unfolds.

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[QUOTE=WCommandersfan99;1375063]His contract this year is currently around 22 million. Chase is the highest paid at over 40 million yearly. This is the worst case scenario if he gets too greedy. Agree doubtful it does but a pushy agent can be highly influential. Just get it done. Will be interesting and highly monitored how this unfolds.[/QUOTE]


I doubt Terry is demanding $40M. I’d be stunned.


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I'm ambivalent on the Miller signing. This seems similar to the Lattimore trade, but in this case he's gotten the down year out of his system and hopefully comes back strong this year. I guess its relatively low risk as an FA signing.

I also think this means AP turns his attention to Terry and gets that deal done.

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[QUOTE=calia;1375064]I doubt Terry is demanding $40M. I’d be stunned.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Or that the commanders are at 22 million .

My guess it's far more about structure and guarantee terms than actual value per year

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Von Miller? Ok let’s see what he’s got left

Bobby Wagner, Von Miller in the locker room should be fun

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83 PFF pass rush grade last year which is still pretty damn good

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[quote=MTK;1375068]83 PFF pass rush grade last year which is still pretty damn good[/quote]

And that's a post injury year. If he's 100% now, he probably has 1-2 good years in the tank. Let's hope he shows it, though I suspect our pass rush will be the sum of its parts not any one player excelling. All but the opposite of last year.

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[QUOTE=AnonEmouse;1375055]The one thing to point out, Terry himself has said he hasn't got the mileage or injury history to date many of his peers of a similar age have had. He could well go 6, 7 or even 8 more years. Signing him to a 3 or 4 year deal now is lower risk than, say, Metcalf's extension.

The question I ask is do they have irons in the fire on other signings and that' causing them pause? Are they still looking at Hendrickson and want to know what that outcome could be before committing to Terry? Committing to Terry and Hendrickson might leave them light for extending Daniels as well as putting weapons around him.[/QUOTE]


I believe you are correct and I believe a Terry signing is coming any day now.

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[quote=MTK;1375068]83 PFF pass rush grade last year which is still pretty damn good[/quote]

Kinda surprised by that grade! Nice

Standig also posted on X that a metric like a per pass rush attempt efficiency stat that Miller was tenth in the league last year

If he in there for 35% of snaps rushing the passer it probably an upgrade for us

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The fact that Von Miller has 2 Super Bowl rings is nothing to scoff at all. Guy is literally a champion twice even winning Super Bowl MVP. His resume is crazy good. Highly doubt he needs the money. I don't have a problem with this signing at all and honestly like it. Hendrickson and Watt would have been way too expensive from way too many angles. Miller sees a real chance here to do something special and clearly wants to keep playing.

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All we need from him is to be a 3rd down/situational rusher. He’s not going to be a full time starter.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1375067]Von Miller? Ok let’s see what he’s got left

Bobby Wagner, Von Miller in the locker room should be fun[/QUOTE]


The Over The Hill Gang v 2.0. Wouldn’t it be great to see these old guys beat up some young QBs in the league?


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[quote=MTK;1375073]All we need from him is to be a 3rd down/situational rusher. He’s not going to be a full time starter.[/quote]

and i think he will be good in that role and add some good veteran leadership to the locker room