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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1194041]This is also a knock on JG and KC the last few years. I do agree with u on some things tho, but building a team doesn't happen overnight. If he leaves thats ok, we have DW to step in but its not all Bruce's fault.[/QUOTE] Yea. Cap penalty, Shanny grossly neglected the d during his years with spending.

It hasn't been good but I have been ok with the drafts we know for sure were Bruce's.

I have also been ok with the FA signings who got big money. Alex, Norman, Brown.

I'm fine with letting it play out because in the past BA was never exclusively the guy.

And I like what he has done since he has been exclusively the guy.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1194042]Yea. Cap penalty, Shanny grossly neglected the d during his years with spending.

It hasn't been good but I have been ok with the drafts we know for sure were Bruce's.

I have also been ok with the FA signings who got big money. Alex, Norman, Brown.

I'm fine with letting it play out because in the past BA was never exclusively the guy.

And I like what he has done since he has been exclusively the guy.

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Honestly he has been damn good at signing FA and value. Norman, Brown, are the main guys but he also brought in Djax and VDavis too. Drafted a good line.. He's done a good job IMO

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[quote=itvnetop;1194040]Bye Felicia! And how about that Josh Norman last night?[/quote]

that show is the weakest shit on tv...and the fact they give tonya harding a spot...garbage Hollywood

obligatory "his head should be in the playbook" comment versus looking like a fairy.

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[quote=Chico23231;1194044]that show is the weakest shit on tv...and the fact they give tonya harding a spot...garbage Hollywood

obligatory "his head should be in the playbook" comment versus looking like a fairy.[/quote]

I've never seen 1 episode of DWTS. I know some guys "have" to watch that shit for brownie points but I'd rather go without then sit through that shit

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1194043]Honestly he has been damn good at signing FA and value. Norman, Brown, are the main guys but he also brought in Djax and VDavis too. Drafted a good line.. He's done a good job IMO[/quote]

Terrelle Pryor, Terrell McClain, Stacy McGree, Brian Quick, Junior Gallete (3 times!), Kendall Reyes, Duke Ihenacho, David Bruton, Jeron Johnson, Jason Hatcher, Brandon Meriweather .

It's great we don't over pay aging superstars anymore but the team doesn't have solid roster.

They chose not to pay Jackson or Garcon last year and it costs the team wins. That was a Bruce decision.

Bruce let Chris Baker go and Signed McGee and McLain, that was a huge failure last year as well. Those new guys got paid 10M(5 each) to be a speed bump last year.

Kendall Reyes...
The day after Reyes signing, Cooley did a film review of the guy and said that he doesn't belong in the league. I Blame Joe Berry( Reyes old coach in SD) but this is BA's responsibility.

Name a good signing and I'll give you 2 that did jack shit for the team.


The Redskins are going to finish 3rd in the division again but they will have the most salary cap space next year! WINNING!


Man I really hate BA and his bargain basement players and his bargain basement winning percentage.


Sorry for being a jerk. I'm going to step away from the keyboard.

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[quote=jamf;1194047]Terrelle Pryor, Terrell McClain, Stacy McGree, Brian Quick, Junior Gallete (3 times!), Kendall Reyes, Duke Ihenacho, David Bruton, Jeron Johnson, Jason Hatcher, Brandon Meriweather .

It's great we don't over pay aging superstars anymore but the team doesn't have solid roster.

They chose not to pay Jackson or Garcon last year and it costs the team wins. That was a Bruce decision.

Bruce let Chris Baker go and Signed McGee and McLain, that was a huge failure last year as well. Those new guys got paid 10M(5 each) to be a speed bump last year.

Kendall Reyes...
The day after Reyes signing, Cooley did a film review of the guy and said that he doesn't belong in the league. I Blame Joe Berry( Reyes old coach in SD) but this is BA's responsibility.

Name a good signing and I'll give you 2 that did jack shit for the team.


The Redskins are going to finish 3rd in the division again but they will have the most salary cap space next year! WINNING!


Man I really hate BA and his bargain basement players and his bargain basement winning percentage.


Sorry for being a jerk. I'm going to step away from the keyboard.[/quote]

Tough to argue any of your points....I agree. Id like to see Schaf running everything. I really like Scott Campbell as well. Those 2 seem to be the keepers in the Front office.

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8 Years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It hasn't been overnight. It's excuse after excuse, year after year.


OMG i'm having a brain aneurysm.
Tell my family I want "F... Bruce Allen" on my tombstone.

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[quote=jamf;1194049]8 Years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It hasn't been overnight. It's excuse after excuse, year after year.


OMG i'm having a brain aneurysm.
Tell my family I want "F... Bruce Allen" on my tombstone.[/quote]

quick, inhale the medicinal!

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[quote=jamf;1194049]8 Years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It hasn't been overnight. It's excuse after excuse, year after year.


OMG i'm having a brain aneurysm.
Tell my family I want "F... Bruce Allen" on my tombstone.[/quote]

hahahah come on man

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[quote=jamf;1194047]Terrelle Pryor, Terrell McClain, Stacy McGree, Brian Quick, Junior Gallete (3 times!), Kendall Reyes, Duke Ihenacho, David Bruton, Jeron Johnson, Jason Hatcher, Brandon Meriweather .

It's great we don't over pay aging superstars anymore but the team doesn't have solid roster.

They chose not to pay Jackson or Garcon last year and it costs the team wins. That was a Bruce decision.

Bruce let Chris Baker go and Signed McGee and McLain, that was a huge failure last year as well. Those new guys got paid 10M(5 each) to be a speed bump last year.

Kendall Reyes...
The day after Reyes signing, Cooley did a film review of the guy and said that he doesn't belong in the league. I Blame Joe Berry( Reyes old coach in SD) but this is BA's responsibility.

Name a good signing and I'll give you 2 that did jack shit for the team.


The Redskins are going to finish 3rd in the division again but they will have the most salary cap space next year! WINNING!


Man I really hate BA and his bargain basement players and his bargain basement winning percentage.


Sorry for being a jerk. I'm going to step away from the keyboard.[/quote]

This is such an uninformed post, is not even funny.

But anyway, I don't have a problem if Bruce Allen leaves. I think he has done some things that look positive, given the shit show this team was before he got here and I think he got us out of the shit show. BUT he could have done a lot more and didn't, became comfortable in the team being slightly below average.

If he were to leave, this would become the Eric Schaffer, Doug Williams, and Jay Gruden show, which I am completely fine and would look forward to it.

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[quote=jamf;1194047]Terrelle Pryor, Terrell McClain, Stacy McGree, Brian Quick, Junior Gallete (3 times!), Kendall Reyes, Duke Ihenacho, David Bruton, Jeron Johnson, Jason Hatcher, Brandon Meriweather .

It's great we don't over pay aging superstars anymore but the team doesn't have solid roster.

They chose not to pay Jackson or Garcon last year and it costs the team wins. That was a Bruce decision.

Bruce let Chris Baker go and Signed McGee and McLain, that was a huge failure last year as well. Those new guys got paid 10M(5 each) to be a speed bump last year.

Kendall Reyes...
The day after Reyes signing, Cooley did a film review of the guy and said that he doesn't belong in the league. I Blame Joe Berry( Reyes old coach in SD) but this is BA's responsibility.

Name a good signing and I'll give you 2 that did jack shit for the team.


The Redskins are going to finish 3rd in the division again but they will have the most salary cap space next year! WINNING!


Man I really hate BA and his bargain basement players and his bargain basement winning percentage.


Sorry for being a jerk. I'm going to step away from the keyboard.[/quote]


You wont hit on every player man lol, and Baker sucks, TB let him go...
I agree with DJAX AND PG but all the others are moves most GM's would have made. We aren't over spending anymore

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1194054]You wont hit on every player man lol, and Baker sucks, TB let him go...
I agree with DJAX AND PG but all the others are moves most GM's would have made. We aren't over spending anymore[/QUOTE]All those guys that were mentioned were very team friendly contacts either with the amount of money paid or the length of the contract.



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And it wouldn't bother me if he left or was fired.

He isn't the boogeyman everybody makes him out to be.

All the ills would not be cured if he left...

And the is a real possibility the next guy might be worse.

Garcon and Jackson didn't dio a whole lot this year. Garcon is old and hurt, and I am a huge fan, but he was over paid.

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[quote=jamf;1194049]8 Years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It hasn't been overnight. It's excuse after excuse, year after year.


OMG i'm having a brain aneurysm.
Tell my family I want "F... Bruce Allen" on my tombstone.[/quote]

No kidding, after struggling for 5 years winning an average of less than 6 games a year Allen has brought the Redskins to mediocrity the last 3. That is something to be real proud of, it seems most Redskins fans are setting the bar real low.
Does he have a 10 year plan?

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I agree with jamf, in 8 years we have not made the progress we should have by now. Hell, it only took the Eagles a couple years to get rid of the Chip Kelly smell and win a SB.

I really liked the draft we had this year and am willing to give him his share of credit for it. But how much credit does he deserve when Gruden/Williams also eat at the table too? Not to mention the scouts, and everyone else who contributed. The last draft has made me tone down the BA hate I had, especially for failing with Kirk, but the future does look better for this team.

So yeah overall the body of work looks like he's had more than enough time to build a winner, but the developments of this offseason actually make it look like we're building a winner. But how many people really think he's here for his football acumen? Are we now trying to give him the credit for roster building when the only thing he's ever been known for is being good on the business side?

TL;DR: With the vague definition of how much credit he deserves for where we're at today, idc if he walks.