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[quote=irish;1069258]Its not a mediocre division its a lousy division and that definitely helps. Coaching is a huge question mark as is QB. What RG3 shows up this year? If its rookie year RG3 then I do think this team will finish above .500. If its last season's RG3 then 6 wins might be a stretch.

I really think in a lot of ways this is a make or break year for RG3. The injury is behind him and the knee brace is off, and its his 3rd year in the league, there are no more excuses. If, God forbid, he has another year like he did last year then it opens up a whole can of worms about him being a bust and the Skins gave away their future for a bust a QB and if there's one thing this team doesnt need its opening up another can of worms.[/quote]

Do you think the problem relationship between Shanny and RG3 affected his play? Im beginning to think it was a bigger factor than once thought.

The stuff about meddling owner, Snyder, etc. was a zero contributor to our record last year. That's a classic washington media take thats just bs at this point.

We've seen what a fully healthy RG3 can do; unfortunately we never saw him fully healthy last year. I dont think its make or break year for RG3, but for Hasslet...

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[quote=Chico23231;1069299]Do you think the problem relationship between Shanny and RG3 affected his play? Im beginning to think it was a bigger factor than once thought.

The stuff about meddling owner, Snyder, etc. was a zero contributor to our record last year. That's a classic washington media take thats just bs at this point.

We've seen what a fully healthy RG3 can do; unfortunately we never saw him fully healthy last year. I dont think its make or break year for RG3, but for Hasslet...[/quote]

I agree with everything you said, Chico. I think between injury recovery and the boiling over of Shanahan dysfunction, RGIII was doomed to a disappointing year.

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[quote=Chico23231;1069299]Do you think the problem relationship between Shanny and RG3 affected his play? Im beginning to think it was a bigger factor than once thought.

The stuff about meddling owner, Snyder, etc. was a zero contributor to our record last year. That's a classic washington media take thats just bs at this point.

We've seen what a fully healthy RG3 can do; unfortunately we never saw him fully healthy last year. I dont think its make or break year for RG3, but for Hasslet...[/quote]

I think it was a huge factor. I dont think Shanny ever wanted to give away all thos pick to take RG3 (that's where the meddling owner comes in) so deep down RG3 knew he wasnt Shanny's guy and didnt trust him. IMO the Seattle playoff game was the final straw.

DS always was and always will be a huge contributor to the Skins record. The fact that he was the driving force behind the RG3 trade will impact the Skins record (for better or worse) for years to come. The DJax deal has DS written all over it, we will see how that impacts this season.

I agree this is a huge year for Hasslet.

[QUOTE=irish;1069320]I think it was a huge factor. I dont think Shanny ever wanted to give away all thos pick to take RG3 (that's where the meddling owner comes in) so deep down RG3 knew he wasnt Shanny's guy and didnt trust him. IMO the Seattle playoff game was the final straw.



DS always was and always will be a huge contributor to the Skins record. The fact that he was the driving force behind the RG3 trade will impact the Skins record (for better or worse) for years to come. The DJax deal has DS written all over it, we will see how that impacts this season.



I agree this is a huge year for Hasslet.[/QUOTE]


Too conspiracy theorist 'ish. I think its simpler than that. I think Shanny just played it all wrong. From leaving griff in the seattle game to long to starting him too early. Shanny just wasnt a very good coach and is a stubborn ass. Hasnt been a good coach for many years.

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[quote=irish;1069320]I think it was a huge factor. I dont think Shanny ever wanted to give away all thos pick to take RG3 (that's where the meddling owner comes in) so deep down RG3 knew he wasnt Shanny's guy and didnt trust him. IMO the Seattle playoff game was the final straw.

DS always was and always will be a huge contributor to the Skins record. The fact that he was the driving force behind the RG3 trade will impact the Skins record (for better or worse) for years to come. The DJax deal has DS written all over it, we will see how that impacts this season.

I agree this is a huge year for Hasslet.[/quote]

Who's to say, though, that picking Russell Wilson over RGIII would have put the 'skins in a better spot today? Sure, you still keep those other two first round draft picks, but you still have the $36 million dollar cap penalty - which contributed a lot to stunting the growth of this team. I do agree that this is a make or break year for RGIII, but he's given every chance to succeed this year. If he doesn't, we'll know he's a bust. I seriously doubt I see a repeat of last year, but we'll see.

The DJax pick up was a great pick up all around. It doesn't hurt this team that much. If you're going to make a big splash, at least sign a contract that works for both parties - and that happened. I know I tend to see everything in a positive way when it comes to the Redskins, but every move made in this offseason seems to be for the better. Yes, there's a question mark over Jay Gruden, but it's not like he has no head coaching experience in the pros at all.

Man this thread has nothing to do with the 2014 nfl schedule. Lol

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[quote=irish;1069320]I think it was a huge factor. I dont think Shanny ever wanted to give away all thos pick to take RG3 (that's where the meddling owner comes in) so deep down RG3 knew he wasnt Shanny's guy and didnt trust him. IMO the Seattle playoff game was the final straw.

DS always was and always will be a huge contributor to the Skins record. The fact that he was the driving force behind the RG3 trade will impact the Skins record (for better or worse) for years to come. The DJax deal has DS written all over it, we will see how that impacts this season.

I agree this is a huge year for Hasslet.[/quote]

All of these points come from speculation (unfounded) on your part. DJax wasn't a Snyder move, by any account other than the "it must have been Snyder" crowd. The Griffin trade will certainly impact the Skins because he is our qb, and we gave up a lot to get him. But DS being the "driving force" is pure speculation(of the worse kind because it perpetuates an old, and at this point wrong, dialogue about his involvement).

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[quote=punch it in;1069332]Man this thread has nothing to do with the 2014 nfl schedule. Lol[/quote]

sorry, I'm done with the Griffin/Shanahan/DS conspiracy



well at least in this thread :)

[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1069338]sorry, I'm done with the Griffin/Shanahan/DS conspiracy







well at least in this thread :)[/QUOTE]


Yeah, definitely tired of the revisionist tales too. I like how if anything goes bad it must be Snyder's fault.

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[quote=Mattyk;1069246][url=http://mmqb.si.com/2014/04/24/making-of-2014-nfl-schedule/]2014 NFL schedule: Behind the scenes of how four men get it made | The MMQB with Peter King[/url][/quote]

This may have gotten lost in the last few pages. Amazing how much goes into it, and I think everyone involved at the NFL deserves a well earned happy hour.

[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1069348]This may have gotten lost in the last few pages. Amazing how much goes into it, and I think everyone involved at the NFL deserves a well earned happy hour.[/QUOTE]


I heard an interview this morning with one of the schedule guys on NFL radio. Really interesting to hear about the process and how it all comes together.

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[quote=irish;1069320]I think it was a huge factor. I dont think Shanny ever wanted to give away all thos pick to take RG3 (that's where the meddling owner comes in) so deep down RG3 knew he wasnt Shanny's guy and didnt trust him. IMO the Seattle playoff game was the final straw.

DS always was and always will be a huge contributor to the Skins record. The fact that he was the driving force behind the RG3 trade will impact the Skins record (for better or worse) for years to come. The DJax deal has DS written all over it, we will see how that impacts this season.

I agree this is a huge year for Hasslet.[/quote]

Regardless of who pulled the trigger on the trade, it's over and done with. Shanahan had the final say on all football matters so he obviously signed off on it. New year, new coach, new weapons for RG3, new attitude at Redskin Park, it seems like Brown and Campbell are taking larger roles, we're headed in the right direction.

To me, I don't know how anyone can not be happy about Jackson. He fills two needs, we gave up 0 drafts picks to get him, he seems to abuse us every year and we took away the Eagles best player. I like that gamble and it's worth the risk.

[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1069497]Regardless of who pulled the trigger on the trade, it's over and done with. Shanahan had the final say on all football matters so he obviously signed off on it. New year, new coach, new weapons for RG3, new attitude at Redskin Park, it seems like Brown and Campbell are taking larger roles, we're headed in the right direction.

To me, I don't know how anyone can not be happy about Jackson. He fills two needs, we gave up 0 drafts picks to get him, he seems to abuse us every year and we took away the Eagles best player. I like that gamble and it's worth the risk.[/QUOTE]


Stop making so much sense!

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[quote=skinsfan69;1069497]Regardless of who pulled the trigger on the trade, it's over and done with. Shanahan had the final say on all football matters so he obviously signed off on it. New year, new coach, new weapons for RG3, new attitude at Redskin Park, it seems like Brown and Campbell are taking larger roles, we're headed in the right direction.

To me, I don't know how anyone can not be happy about Jackson. He fills two needs, we gave up 0 drafts picks to get him, he seems to abuse us every year and [B]we took away the Eagles best player[/B]. I like that gamble and it's worth the risk.[/quote]

Everyone talks that way but it is not really true. Philly ejected Jackson, no one took him away. Philly was going to lose him to someone else no matter what.

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[quote=Lotus;1069502]Everyone talks that way but it is not really true. Philly ejected Jackson, no one took him away. Philly was going to lose him to someone else no matter what.[/quote]

Technically you're right but the impact of a 'double whammy' is to our benefit. We wouldn't be at all excited if he landed in Dallas or NY because we'd still have to face him twice a year. My Cowboy fan friends were pissed because they thought they had gotten rid of Jackson when the Eagles cut him and now they still have to face him twice.

My issue with the quoted post is that Lesean McCoy is far and away the Eagles best player, not Jackson. We will see however how much space he has now that teams don't have to account for Jackson's deep ability. There was like a 1.8 YPC difference for McCoy between when D. Jax was on or off the field.