Re: RGIII undergoing total reconstructive surgery: out 6-8 months
 

[quote=SOUL-SKINS;987091]@john_keim: Folks: will be tweeting updated convo with Dr. Lehman and how much difference it makes if ACL repaired vs. reconstructed. one word: huge[/quote]

Negatively or positively? And in what regard recovery time or overall knee ligament health?

The problem we have going on right now is we have to few doctors that have examined Griffin and more leahman opinions or professional options dealing with other patients not named Robert Griffin III.

I want to hear from Dr Andrews specifically before anyone else. He is one of the only people on the planet right now who has a very good understanding of Robert and more in particular Robert's knee.

Re: RGIII undergoing total reconstructive surgery: out 6-8 months
 

I just want to report that the surgery with Robert this morning went wonderful. My mate Dr. Andrews had some trouble with the Davinci machine at first, but he was golden after I gave him a rundown on how to operate it. As with any patient confidentiality statement, I cannot comment on the actual damage to the Robert's knee, but I'm sure the Redskins PR staff will be along shortly to blow smoke up the fanbase's ass to keep them from bailing next season.


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@granthpaulsen: One thing I found particularly interesting from my convo w/ the renowned doctor: RG3's previous ACL tear won't add time to rehab/recovery.

Re: RGIII undergoing total reconstructive surgery: out 6-8 months
 

[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;987109]Negatively or positively? And in what regard recovery time or overall knee ligament health?

The problem we have going on right now is we have to few doctors and more leahman opinions.

I want to hear from Dr Andrews specifically before anyone else. He is one of the only people on the planet right now who has a very good understanding of Robert and more in particular Robert's knee.[/quote]

Positively .... And yes I agree. I wanna hear more from Andrews

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Redskins ‏@Redskins (multiple tweets follow)

Dr. James Andrews performed surgery this morning on #Redskins QB @RGIII and released the following statement "@RGIII had successful knee surgery early this morning. He had a direct repair of his LCL and a re-do of his previous ACL reconstruction. We expect a full recovery and it is everybody's hope and belief that due to @RGIII's high motivation, he will be ready for the 2013 season. The goal of his treatment is to give him the best opportunity for a long professional career."

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Re: RGIII undergoing total reconstructive surgery: out 6-8 months
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;987116]Redskins ‏@Redskins (multiple tweets follow)

Dr. James Andrews performed surgery this morning on #Redskins QB @RGIII and released the following statement "@RGIII had successful knee surgery early this morning. He had a direct repair of his LCL and a re-do of his previous ACL reconstruction. We expect a full recovery and it is everybody's hope and belief that due to @RGIII's high motivation, he will be ready for the 2013 season. The goal of his treatment is to give him the best opportunity for a long professional career."

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4m Redskins Redskins ‏@Redskins[/quote]that's what i like to hear

Re: RGIII undergoing total reconstructive surgery: out 6-8 months
 

And from Robert Griffin 3 (thru HTTR24_7)
LL ‏@HTTR24_7

RGIII "One thing I won’t do personally is quit, or play scared. I’ve never played scared in my life"

I don't want him to play scared or quit, but I do want him to play smarter (which I believe he was starting to do until he made that cut back in the Ravens game :( )

Re: RGIII undergoing total reconstructive surgery: out 6-8 months
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;987119]And from Robert Griffin 3 (thru HTTR24_7)
LL ‏@HTTR24_7

RGIII "One thing I won’t do personally is quit, or play scared. I’ve never played scared in my life"

I don't want him to play scared or quit, but I do want him to play smarter (which I believe he was starting to do until he made that cut back in the Ravens game :( )[/quote]

He did that same stupid shit in the Seahawks game. A play where he tried to squeeze another yard out on the sideline. If the kid doesn't learn, we can forget this ride and might as well prepare for the next QB. He simply will not last. Nobody wants him to play scared. We want him to play smart. Nobody is questioning Manning or Brady's toughness when they slide. Sad thing is, I still don't think the kid gets it.

Re: RGIII undergoing total reconstructive surgery: out 6-8 months
 

[quote=NC_Skins;987121]He did that same stupid shit in the Seahawks game. A play where he tried to squeeze another yard out on the sideline. If the kid doesn't learn, we can forget this ride and might as well prepare for the next QB. He simply will not last. Nobody wants him to play scared. We want him to play smart. Nobody is questioning Manning or Brady's toughness when they slide. Sad thing is, I still don't think the kid gets it.[/quote]

You can still ball out and be smart. He knows that.

Man you sure love to beast mode everything.

Re: RGIII undergoing total reconstructive surgery: out 6-8 months
 

[quote=Mattyk;987122]You can still ball out and be smart. He knows that.

Man you sure love to beast mode everything.[/quote]


For somebody that "knows that", he certainly isn't displaying it. Kid has already been knocked out of 2 games, and sat out a full game on things that could have been avoided. These weren't hits in the pocket, these weren't from some uncontrollable force. These were direct results of not sliding, not running out of bounds and so on. You call that beast mode, I call it calling a spade a spade. I want this kid around for the long term because I realize our success is going to be tied to this kid. I think you are giving him a pass, and it's evident by you saying "he knows that". I think his decision making so far proves the opposite.

For the record, I have no problem with RGIII running. None. It's just if he can avoid the hit, he needs to.

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[quote=NC_Skins;987123]For somebody that "knows that", he certainly isn't displaying it. Kid has already been knocked out of 2 games, and sat out a full game on things that could have been avoided. These weren't hits in the pocket, these weren't from some uncontrollable force. These were direct results of not sliding, not running out of bounds and so on. You call that beast mode, I call it calling a spade a spade. I want this kid around for the long term because I realize our success is going to be tied to this kid. I think you are giving him a pass, and it's evident by you saying "he knows that". I think his decision making so far proves the opposite.

For the record, I have no problem with RGIII running. None. It's just if he can avoid the hit, he needs to.[/quote]
At 22 I think he can be glad a man at this point.

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The guy is 22 and has succeeded at everything he has attempted. Not just succeeded - excelled. I don't know about you, but, at 22, I was convinced I could run through brick walls and work 90 hour weeks without slowing down. Now imagine Griffin - he has succeeded in part b/c somewhere, deep in his heart of hearts, he believes he is superman.

On one hand, he is smart enought to hear and understands the "gotta protect myself better" message. On the other, I am sure there is a part of him that says "I can do this" that, on occassion, over rides his good sense. With time will come wisdom.

Re: RGIII undergoing total reconstructive surgery: out 6-8 months
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;987128]The guy is 22 and has succeeded at everything he has attempted. Not just succeeded - excelled. I don't know about you, but, at 22, I was convinced I could run through brick walls and work 90 hour weeks without slowing down. Now imagine Griffin - he has succeeded in part b/c somewhere, deep in his heart of hearts, he believes he is superman.

On one hand, he is smart enought to hear and understands the "gotta protect myself better" message. On the other, I am sure there is a part of him that says "I can do this" that, on occassion, over rides his good sense. With time will come wisdom.[/quote]

Great post, so true. He's so young and a freak physical specimen, so I'm not too worried about his ability to make a full recovery from this. But at 22, I'm sure he still has, or at least had, the invincibility myth of youth in full swing. I'm hoping the combination of the concussion in the Atlanta game and now this surgery will reel him in a bit.

Re: RGIII undergoing total reconstructive surgery: out 6-8 months
 

[quote=NC_Skins;987123]For somebody that "knows that", he certainly isn't displaying it. Kid has already been knocked out of 2 games, and sat out a full game on things that could have been avoided. These weren't hits in the pocket, these weren't from some uncontrollable force. These were direct results of not sliding, not running out of bounds and so on. You call that beast mode, I call it calling a spade a spade. I want this kid around for the long term because I realize our success is going to be tied to this kid. I think you are giving him a pass, and it's evident by you saying "he knows that". I think his decision making so far proves the opposite.

For the record, I have no problem with RGIII running. None. It's just if he can avoid the hit, he needs to.[/quote]

There are several things going on:
1) he never took hits like NFL hits in College. These guys are brutal. I think he learned that after the Atlanta game.
2) you can't win on every play. He hates that, it's why he cut back in the Ravens game, or hurdled over a guy in the 4th quarter of one game. That makes him who he is. I think he is learning this. You see him step out of bounds a lot better in the last few games. But the throw to Garcon, was a we need this now play.
3) He has to learn it's about the season/career, not a single play - I hope he learns this and understands it from this last surgery.

One thing is for sure, he is smart, and he will look at his performance and see if it needs to change. I just wonder how much you can change that internal nature that has driven him so long.

Re: RGIII undergoing total reconstructive surgery: out 6-8 months
 

[quote=SkinzWin;987065]Just playing devils advocate here, because I don't want this to happen but I'm going to throw out a name here that was in the exact same position. We all know how that ended.

Let me get your thoughts. Kevin Kolb.[/quote]

Well, we are talking about Kirk Cousins playing (hopefully) a couple of games into the season with a good running game, a solid line, and good receivers. Not considering him as a long term starter for next year.