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It looks like a couple more rapes may have happened. A rape may have been the reason the riot in Oakland started last night. Another rape was reported in Occupy Glasgow in the UK (not sure if oversea rapes count).
So far we have reported rapes in: Occupy Cleveland Occupy Dallas (statutory, 14 year old) Occupy Oakland Occupy Glasgow and a serial flasher at Occupy Seattle And probably most disturbing of all the Occupy Baltimore leaders (watch out OTM!) are handing out pamphlets that discourage rape victims from reporting rapes to the police .... wow. [url=http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2011-10-19/news/bs-md-ci-occupy-baltimore-rape-20111019_1_sexual-assaults-sexual-abuse-report-crimes]Occupy Baltimore group discourages reporting rape, health advocates say - Baltimore Sun[/url] If you search rape and Occupy Wall Street you get a lot of stuff, partly because the occupiers use the terms "rape" and "pillage" to describe Wall Street's actions. In Occupy Cincinnati they staged a corporate rape the other day: [url=http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20111022/NEWS01/310230009/Occupy-protesters-stage-rape-99-Fountain-Square?odyssey=mod|mostview]11 Occupy Cincinnati protesters arrested on Fountain Square | Cincinnati.com | cincinnati.com[/url] Of course everyone knows that in Ray Lewis type fashion Vice President Biden recently said that if Obama's job's bill is not passed murders and rapes will increase. I guess most people living at OWS sites dont have jobs so perhaps Biden is right in his line of thinking? [url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/22/ray-lewis-crime-rate-will-rise-if-lockout-lingers/]Ray Lewis: Crime rate will rise if lockout lingers | ProFootballTalk[/url] [url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/20/white-house-backs-biden-rape-murder-comments/]White House backs Biden's rape, murder remarks - Washington Times[/url] |
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[quote=over the mountain;852569]at 33 i want to stay away from the long hour, good pay job. besides, i wouldnt be able to get hammer time on sundays. sundays is the only day i enjoy nowadays. i used to be a free spirited rebel of sorts. now im a beaten down guy who sits on the highway going to his deadend hate it job only to come home and have the wifey complaing about dog hair or not getting the recycling out . . [/quote]I've had those types of days, try to take a couple days off and recharge. The contacts you may make with the churn/burn job could lead you to your own thing eventually or something else positive. Hang in there, when you find the right thing, you'll know.
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[quote=NC_Skins;852571]I love how we put limits on protesting.
Yeah guys, you have the freedom of speech, just keep it in the hours of 8am - 11pm M-F. Thanks in advance. **** that. That's the problem with the laws and our country. They've stripped our rights slowly as the years have gone by. I hope they break out the cocktail bombs and burn their shit down. I'll leave you with this. "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable" -- John F. Kennedy The more you try to suppress the people, the more angry and violent they will become.[/quote] So b/c a bunch of jobless a** holes are angry, we should let them become squatters on public property and disrupt everyone's lives? F' that. They want violence? Bring it on. They break out the Molotov's, - bring out the riot gear and lay a solid beat down on the blatant lawbreakers. You are free to protest any time and any where. Of course, there may be consequences for your actions. Those [I]not[/I] protesting have rights and privileges too including the quiet enjoyment of their private real property (both residential and commercial) and the use of public property. It seems to me, the Occupiers have been given incredible leeway in their use of public property, their right to protest and their right to exercise free speech. Freedom of speech has never meant an unfettered right to say what you want whenever and where ever you want. You are one angry dude. |
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That's the problem. American's have sit back and let their country be taken right from them without a single care. You should be angry too. You should be sick and tired of the bullshit your government is giving you. Then again, maybe you are benefiting from them and don't give a shit because it hasn't affected you yet. Yet being key word. America's biggest downfall has been and will continue to be apathy.
**** those jobless bums!! [url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/26/iraq-vet-oakland-police-tear-gas_n_1033159.html]Oakland Police Critically Injure Iraq War Vet During Occupy March[/url] **** this war veteran! ****ing piece of shit bum exercising his right to free speech!! GET A JOB YOU HIPPIE!! The fact that many of you sit up here and just stereotype these people and act like you know why they are there is beyond me. It's sad most of you sit back and listen to the bullshit the media pumps and believe it. Just look at FOX to get a good view on how very much they've slanted this "occupy" movement. It's amazing thing to watch. Turning Americans against their own kind all the while they sit back and laugh because you are again blinded by the crooks in Washington. I'd like to see a police force try to take on thousand and thousands of people. |
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Instead of the cops and mayors worrying about occupiers, how about they start changing some laws in their state to reflect much of their problems. If the Fed won't regulate banks, the states sure as hell can if you do business in their state.
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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;852604]That's the problem. American's have sit back and let their country be taken right from them without a single care. You should be angry too. You should be sick and tired of the bullshit your government is giving you. Then again, maybe you are benefiting from them and don't give a shit because it hasn't affected you yet. Yet being key word. America's biggest downfall has been and will continue to be apathy.
**** those jobless bums!! [url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/26/iraq-vet-oakland-police-tear-gas_n_1033159.html]Oakland Police Critically Injure Iraq War Vet During Occupy March[/url] **** this war veteran! ****ing piece of shit bum exercising his right to free speech!! GET A JOB YOU HIPPIE!! The fact that many of you sit up here and just stereotype these people and act like you know why they are there is beyond me. It's sad most of you sit back and listen to the bullshit the media pumps and believe it. Just look at FOX to get a good view on how very much they've slanted this "occupy" movement. It's amazing thing to watch. Turning Americans against their own kind all the while they sit back and laugh because you are again blinded by the crooks in Washington. I'd like to see a police force try to take on thousand and thousands of people.[/QUOTE] Let's be clear, the country was originally forged by people who today would be wall street types. The founding fathers were aristocrats, lawyers, and landowners(at the time a sign of nobility). Protests have always had a reasonable limit to what was accepted/tolerated. The whiskey rebellion for example was put down with quite the heavy hand. I believe Rockefeller made a ton off the backs of the working class, and healthcare was nonexistent. Protests are an important part of our society, and I don't see any tanks barrelling thru running over innocents, but they also need to have a level of mutual acceptance of the governmental bodies, and respect for private property. This country has made many significant strides when people (be it women, blacks, anti-war, or civil rights) have protested, maybe OWS type protests will accomplish something but I personally doubt their methods will bring the changes they are looking for. |
[QUOTE=NC_Skins;852605]Instead of the cops and mayors worrying about occupiers, how about they start changing some laws in their state to reflect much of their problems. If the Fed won't regulate banks, the states sure as hell can if you do business in their state.[/QUOTE]
I think its been stated, but maybe you can clarify, exactly which regulations, at the state or federal level, are you specifically asking to be changed and to what end, again specifics would be appreciated. |
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The bottom line is the more attention you pay to these people the more attention they will seek and require. Ignore them and they will go away.
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I think the biggest problem is there's no real agenda... it's cool to be pissed off, but if you don't have any specific demands, what exactly are you wasting your time for?
and i mean, do you guys know what a hachet job is? back when the temperance movement was trying to ban alcohol, women would literally mob up and go into bars and warehouses and destroy them... break every mirror, smash every bottle, hack open every keg. and they kept doing it until they started getting their way. protests since WWI have generally been almost completely violence free (maybe MLK's example helped?), but back in the days of Main Street and pre-prohibition america, it was an entirely different story. The protesters that got their way had a focused goal - better working conditions, the right to vote, equality under law, etc etc The OWS have support in that a LOT of americans are unhappy with the country, the government, corporate influence and backscratching (bailouts et al), but there's no endgame or proposed solution, so it's pointless. And i'm not sure the movement's been set up so that it can be lead either. |
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[quote=saden1;852611]The bottom line is the more attention you pay to these people the more attention they will seek and require. Ignore them and they will go away.[/quote]
kind of like sarah palin? |
I agree with some of their more thought out positions and not just this everything is evil position. I think OWS relishes this decentralized agenda-less structure. Easier to move, mobilize and get support that way. To make any real change they would need to organize themselves but many of them are liberatarian or anarchists they would have to move away from their Utopian ideals to have a real voice.
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That Guy, hooskins - well said.
John Lennon's message to the Occupiers: You say you want a revolution Well, you know We all want to change the world You tell me that it's evolution Well, you know We all want to change the world But when you talk about destruction Don't you know that you can count me out Don't you know it's gonna be all right all right, all right You say you got a real solution Well, you know We'd all love to see the plan You ask me for a contribution Well, you know We're doing what we can But when you want money for people with minds that hate All I can tell is brother you have to wait Don't you know it's gonna be all right all right, all right Ah ah, ah, ah, ah, ah... You say you'll change the constitution Well, you know We all want to change your head You tell me it's the institution Well, you know You better free you mind instead But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow Don't you know it's gonna be all right all right, all right all right, all right, all right all right, all right, all right |
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