Re: Brandon Banks
 

[quote=Lotus;720471]If Banks starts fumbling, we'll see why. Rock and ARE (mostly) were good about not putting the ball on the ground.[/quote]

If Grandma had nuts, she would be Grandpa. Both ARE and Rock were fumbling threats. Rock was consistent and ARE was garbage. I don't know which is a bigger indictment on Zorn, the "swinging gate" or the fact that Randle-El was the primary punt returner for both years.

Either way the Zorn era is dead. Thank God.

Re: Brandon Banks
 

^ I wasn't supporting Zorn as a coach or Rock and ARE as returners. I'm on record in these pages as supporting the replacement of all 3.

Banks' return against Buffalo was electric and, needless to say, we could use more of that. But reports from camp have it that Banks puts the ball on the ground with some frequency. Fumbled kicks are major game changers. We want a returner who can take it to the house AND not fumble.

I'm not hopping on the Banks bandwagon until I see that he keeps the ball secure. Ball security was an advantage of both Rock and (mostly) ARE.

Re: Brandon Banks
 

Yeah, let's not forget we fumbled returns twice during the game. Either one of those could have been a catastrophe, and we just got lucky. But then again, we got lucky all night.

1) Fumbled twice on returns = no turnover.
2) Second drive - only sustained due to "roughing the passer" penalty. Led to TD.
3) Grossman TD pass to Fred Davis was *very* close to picked off & pick-6.
4) All 300 pounds of Haynesworth flipped into air --> no injury.

Guess when it's your day, it's your day. Just saying that in a Cowboys game that's down to the wire, Banks better hold onto the ball..

Re: Brandon Banks
 

I really hope that we find a place for Banks, because our return game has been a joke since Snyderato dumped B. Mitch, who went on to have 3 pro bowl caliber years for Philly. Not comparing Banks to B Mitch, but he's the best looking return prospect we've seen around here in years.

Re: Brandon Banks
 

[quote=SUNRA;720506]I got one better for you... He raced Chris Johnson twice and beat him twice. The man maybe the fastest man in the NFL.[/quote]

He ran a 4.4 40 and pulled a hammy half way through. That made me laugh when I heard that.

Re: Brandon Banks
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;720512]If Grandma had nuts, she would be Grandpa. Both ARE and Rock were fumbling threats. Rock was consistent and ARE was garbage. I don't know which is a bigger indictment on Zorn, the "swinging gate" or the fact that Randle-El was the primary punt returner for both years.[/quote]Thinking that would be Randle El. The swinging gate was a desperation play where more than half the team had no idea the ball was snapped. Randle El returning punts was premeditated, over, and over again.

Re: Brandon Banks
 

I didn't see the game...but I have been saying that a guy this size has no place for a guy who is 145 lbs or so.
So the guy had a TD return...that is excellent...
But a single fumble will erase the TD return...and it is far more common to fumble than to return one for a TD...so this guy supposedly has issues with fumbles...well how many fumbles do we tolerate for this TD benefit?...I really would rather have a 10 yard average return with zero fumbles an a guy that can take it all the way but fumbles once a game (not saying thats true).

The fact that he is a shrimp only magnifies the fumbling risk...he is going to get killed at some point. I dont want to see that happen. I'd love to be wrong and I'd love for this guy to add 40 lbs of pure muscle without losing speed and become a WR too....I just dont think that is likely

Re: Brandon Banks
 

[quote=skinsnut;720718]I didn't see the game...but I have been saying that a guy this size has no place for a guy who is 145 lbs or so.
So the guy had a TD return...that is excellent...
But a single fumble will erase the TD return...and it is far more common to fumble than to return one for a TD...so this guy supposedly has issues with fumbles...well how many fumbles do we tolerate for this TD benefit?...I really would rather have a 10 yard average return with zero fumbles an a guy that can take it all the way but fumbles once a game (not saying thats true).

The fact that he is a shrimp only magnifies the fumbling risk...he is going to get killed at some point. I dont want to see that happen. I'd love to be wrong and I'd love for this guy to add 40 lbs of pure muscle without losing speed and become a WR too....I just dont think that is likely[/quote]


I saw a TD but didn't see any fumbles. So what are we talking about here?

Re: Brandon Banks
 

[quote=skinsnut;720718]I didn't see the game...but I have been saying that a guy this size has no place for a guy who is 145 lbs or so.
So the guy had a TD return...that is excellent...
But a single fumble will erase the TD return...and it is far more common to fumble than to return one for a TD...so this guy supposedly has issues with fumbles...well how many fumbles do we tolerate for this TD benefit?...I really would rather have a 10 yard average return with zero fumbles an a guy that can take it all the way but fumbles once a game (not saying thats true).

The fact that he is a shrimp only magnifies the fumbling risk...he is going to get killed at some point. I dont want to see that happen. I'd love to be wrong and I'd love for this guy to add 40 lbs of pure muscle without losing speed and become a WR too....I just dont think that is likely[/quote]

The only concern for a player should be a history of injuries, not the possibility of injury. It's possible for even the most prototypical athelete to sustain injuries or have a career riddled with them. I don't think we have a special WR corps that would push him out of sticking with the team. It wouldn't be a waste of talent to allocate Armstrong and or Austin to the practice squad. That should aid in thier development even more. If any of the WRs on the active roster get hurt, one from the practice squad can be activated. And then there's always the possibility of signing talent from another team's practice squad. Therefore, Banks is worth the risk/reward.

Re: Brandon Banks
 

If he returns another punt or kick for a TD this preseason, he makes the team.

Re: Brandon Banks
 

[quote=CultBrennan59;720745]If he returns another punt or kick for a TD this preseason, he makes the team.[/quote]

I certainly agree with this assessment...just worried about the little squirt getting crushed.

Re: Brandon Banks
 

That kind of speed even makes NFL players nervous. That's crazy hard to do.

Re: Brandon Banks
 

I'd say this. SHanny and Allen have this guy on our team and playing. They let him return a fair amount of punts on Fri. They don't seem too concerned with his size. SO I am not going to.

Re: Brandon Banks
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;720723]I saw a TD but didn't see any fumbles. So what are we talking about here?[/quote]

Right before halftime he muffed a punt and then lost 5 yards after he picked up the ball.

Re: Brandon Banks
 

[quote=Lotus;720758]Right before halftime he muffed a punt and then lost 5 yards after he picked up the ball.[/quote]

That isn't a fumble. He also had several good returns with one being called back.

The Sports Bog pointed out that Randle-Fail had 102 total punt return yards last year. Banks had 97 in one game.