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[quote=Chico23231;1368913]Why were Palestinians taking part in the Oct 7 attack? It wasn’t just Hamas but citizens who supported the attack to the tune of over 70% in favor of it. They aren’t innocent, they could have supported the West Bank party in 2007, they chose Hamas. Why didn’t Jordan or Egypt open the border to help? Well they have before and know Palestinians are terrorists. I’m sorry, but this is a war Hamas brought and they are only responsible for every single Palestinian death.

Obviously Israel is correct in taking defensive positions Golan and can’t rely on UN. We have seen how the UN enforced the zone in Lebanon and allowed Hezbollah to operate without enforcement.

I would advise the Syrian rebels to tread lightly with Israel.[/quote]

Do you really think what is happening in Gaza right now has anything to do with Oct 7th? If it did why doesn't Israel have the hostages back? HAMAS offered them up in July. HAMAS agreed to the ceasefire demands by Israel. This should have ended 6 months ago but Israel has decided to continue its operation. Call it what you want but to me that is amoral. Now we see they are moving settlers into Syria. More of the same from the worst ally we have ever had. Kills journalists to hide the truth, kills Americans and we send them billions. Just an awful government if you ask me.

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One thing I don't get is the willingness of releasing HAMAs prisoners in exchange for hostages. That essentially undermines one of the primary goals of Israel which is the destruction of HAMAs. If I was Israel, I'd demand the release of all the hostages in exchange for their withdrawal from most of GAZA Israel would keep the Egyptian boarder access and a 2 mile buffer in the North. Under no circumstances would I include HAMAs prisoners.

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Interesting article that explains better than I am willing to on targeting.

"....on balance, Israel is performing well below its rules of engagement threshold. Israel's actual combatant-to-civilian death ratio is one of the lowest in modern warfare, approximately one Hamas fighter for two civilians killed....".

[url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/america-s-progressives-are-abandoning-the-just-war-tradition-opinion/ar-AA1x2iWF?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ACTS&cvid=b5350966bd7c4511846b7bee4a9a7512&ei=25[/url]

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Anyone want to bet that trump tries to take credit for the cease fire?

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[quote=Giantone;1371276]Anyone want to bet that trump tries to take credit for the cease fire?[/quote]

Well John Kirby said Trump and Biden teams worked together to get something done. So sounds like a bipartisan effort

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[quote=Chico23231;1371279]Well John Kirby said Trump and Biden teams worked together to get something done. So sounds like a bipartisan effort[/quote]

LOL, like you would know?!

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I know exactly who was the only one responsible for this:

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1371284]I know exactly who was the only one responsible for this:

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I would credit him before trump!