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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/22883/mark-rypien-says-kirk-cousins-playing-at-elite-level]Mark Rypien says Redskins' Kirk Cousins playing at 'elite level' - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]

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Hard to argue KC is playing some Elite Style QB.

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[url]http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14505036/jay-gruden-washington-redskins-bet-big-kirk-cousins-saved-nfl[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1136080][url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/22883/mark-rypien-says-kirk-cousins-playing-at-elite-level]Mark Rypien says Redskins' Kirk Cousins playing at 'elite level' - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url][/quote]

I'm interested in anything Mark Rypien has to say.

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Stats don't lie I've always said this, so I agree kirk is playing like a top 5 QB right now. Honestly who is playing better? R Wilson and cam newton that's about all I got. Palmer maybe that's it though

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I doubted him, I thought he might turn into a serviceable place holder as McCloughan built a team and after he got the meat of the team the way he wanted, then he would find the franchise QB. I think I even called him Rex Grossman 2.0 early in the season. I am so glad I was so wrong. What an awesome surprise, we may already have our franchise QB. That puts us at least 2 years ahead of schedule.

Why do I say may? Well, because the last time I let myself be this excited about our QB, it was RG3. In 2012 I thought,(having suffered through Schuler, Frerotte, Ramsey, and Campbell) FINALLY, a young franchise QB! He was a sure thing, I mean look what he had done, and he was just a rookie! Skies the limit, he's possibly a future HOF, he's changing the position, and he will only get better as he learns to be a pocket passer! Also, the team seemed to love playing with him, and he had a personality (unlike Jason Campbell *cough* *cough*). We were just beginning a new golden age of the Redskins. And then . . .

Ok, so I'm trying not to have my heartbroken again, but to me this time it feels different. I think he might be the one. Let me count the reasons:

1."You Like That!" most importantly he is passionate, which is just so fun to watch and route for, it kind of reminds me of watching Favre. God knows I'm acting like a maniac after a TD or a big win, and I want a QB that is pumped. He certainly matches and probably exceeds my level of passion as a fan, and I like that!

2. He's a pocket passer. He doesn't need to completely reinvent his style of play to progress as a QB. Even if he stops developing right now, and has this level of production (past 10 games) going forward he will be the best QB we've ever had, and be top 5 - 10 in the league.

3. I don't hold my breath every time he steps back in the pocket, or gets hit, or scrambles . . .

4. The whole team is inspired by him, not just likes him and thinks he's talented. He has won the whole team over and it shows, and they all seem to be having a blast!

If next season goes as we all are imagining it will right now, I think I'll be ready to commit.

HTTR

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I would not worry about him breaking your heart like Griff. KC-1 is built to last.

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It's hard to argue that Kirk is playing at an elite level right now. The biggest question, and this really goes for the entire team and not just Kirk, is whether they truly turned a corner a month ago or are the stats on offense severely inflated due to the level of competition they've faced to close the season.

It doesn't really matter for the rest of this season because playoff win or not, 9-7/winning the division is way exceeding expectations.

However because of the results, the expectations going into 2017 are going to end up being similar to 2013 where it is automatically expected the team is going to be 2-3 wins better, a playoff team, deeper run in post-season.

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[quote=NoCalHail;1136124]It's hard to argue that Kirk is playing at an elite level right now. The biggest question, and this really goes for the entire team and not just Kirk, is whether they truly turned a corner a month ago or are the stats on offense severely inflated due to the level of competition they've faced to close the season.

It doesn't really matter for the rest of this season because playoff win or not, 9-7/winning the division is way exceeding expectations.

However because of the results, the expectations going into 2017 are going to end up being similar to 2013 where it is automatically expected the team is going to be 2-3 wins better, a playoff team, deeper run in post-season.[/quote]

Well said.

I will add, if KC and the offense puts up 24+ points (geez I'm easy to please) against a quality opponent like GB, then I will lose the last shred of skepticism.

I have no doubt that the next draft will add talent, and I expect it will add it at the right places. I also believe that we will make good choices with respect to all the returning players, including KC. All of that will lead to a better team next year.

Here are our last 4 opponents, (Total D rank, opponent, passing D rank)
14 Chi 4
19 Buf 19
30 Phi 28
17 Dal 5

Here is our path to the SB (+ Seattle)
15 GB 6
6 Car 11
5 Arz 8
2 Sea 2

Dallas didn't play us like a top 5 passing D(shocked me to see that), and Chicago we won by the Skins of our teeth.

IF KC's progression is real, then these next 2-4 games will bear it out, if not, then 1 and out will will provide fodder for the summer

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I think what jumps out the most over the last month was the aggressiveness in the play-calling. I really think the Gruden & McVay might have done some reconsidering after that loss to Dallas where it looked like their game plan was to simply outlast a mediocre opponent.

Contrast that to how we played in the 2nd game, where it was go out and attack and score as much as you can, as early as you can. I know Sean Lee was missing from the game, but it's not like it was the running game that made any kind of difference early in that anyway which is where Lee shines the most.

It really makes you wonder how different this offense could have possibly looked early in the season if Cousins had a full camp taking 1st team reps. There is no way we lose that home opener to Miami in that fashion.

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[quote=NoCalHail;1136138][B]I think what jumps out the most over the last month was the aggressiveness in the play-calling. I really think the Gruden & McVay might have done some reconsidering after that loss to Dallas where it looked like their game plan was to simply outlast a mediocre opponent. [/B]
Contrast that to how we played in the 2nd game, where it was go out and attack and score as much as you can, as early as you can. I know Sean Lee was missing from the game, but it's not like it was the running game that made any kind of difference early in that anyway which is where Lee shines the most.

It really makes you wonder how different this offense could have possibly looked early in the season if Cousins had a full camp taking 1st team reps. There is no way we lose that home opener to Miami in that fashion.[/quote]

This is the winner. I'll tell you why.

2 people I talk to on the team have told me that the offense has become more aggressive because Kirk has been asking for it. Kirk actually has progressed quicker then the coaches thought he would.

After the first Dallas game, they started giving Kirk demand of audibles at the line as well. Before he wasn't able to change the play unless it was one of the called plays in the huddle (They usually call 2 plays). Now, he's basically been given full reigns of the offense because he's been so comfortable running it.

I honestly think this will be the direction the offense goes. More spread and 5WR sets and taking advantage of mismatches with our playmakers. Similar to New England.

This is not a guy who is having a "flash" year. That is why you saw reports of the Redskins organization wanting to lock Kirk up before the Dallas game. They have seen his progression and ability, so they are ready to commit.

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Cousins has definitly arrived and what I'm looking forward to the most is having a starting QB that will be around a few years. instead of wondering from year to year who its going to be. We haven't had QB stability since the Theisman days

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[quote=Bucket;1136144]This is the winner. I'll tell you why.

2 people I talk to on the team have told me that the offense has become more aggressive because Kirk has been asking for it. [B]Kirk actually has progressed quicker then the coaches thought he would. [/B]

After the first Dallas game, they started giving Kirk demand of audibles at the line as well. Before he wasn't able to change the play unless it was one of the called plays in the huddle (They usually call 2 plays). Now, he's basically been given full reigns of the offense because he's been so comfortable running it.

I honestly think this will be the direction the offense goes. More spread and 5WR sets and taking advantage of mismatches with our playmakers. Similar to New England.

This is not a guy who is having a "flash" year. That is why you saw reports of the Redskins organization wanting to lock Kirk up before the Dallas game. They have seen his progression and ability, so they are ready to commit.[/quote]

Imagine that! A QB of ours that has progressed. I like the sound of that.

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[QUOTE=Bucket;1136144]This is the winner. I'll tell you why.



2 people I talk to on the team have told me that the offense has become more aggressive because Kirk has been asking for it. Kirk actually has progressed quicker then the coaches thought he would.



After the first Dallas game, they started giving Kirk demand of audibles at the line as well. Before he wasn't able to change the play unless it was one of the called plays in the huddle (They usually call 2 plays). Now, he's basically been given full reigns of the offense because he's been so comfortable running it.



I honestly think this will be the direction the offense goes. More spread and 5WR sets and taking advantage of mismatches with our playmakers. Similar to New England.



This is not a guy who is having a "flash" year. That is why you saw reports of the Redskins organization wanting to lock Kirk up before the Dallas game. They have seen his progression and ability, so they are ready to commit.[/QUOTE]


Id love to see some five wr sets!
In all fairness to Griffs "flash" year (which it was in retrospect), im sure that the team as well as everyone of us thought he would be the man for years to come. Hell it was not until pre-season of this year (over two years later) that it became obvious he was not the guy. On top of that Kirk became the man during his 4th year in the league. We really have no choice at this point but to lock him up. Luckily for the team and the fans the choice is obvious.

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Kirk is getting a whole lot of good national publicity.. I just hope he doesn't shit the bed Sunday. I would hate for the douters to start popping there heads out again.

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[quote=Brody81;1136283]Kirk is getting a whole lot of good national publicity.. I just hope he doesn't shit the bed Sunday. I would hate for the douters to start popping there heads out again.[/quote]

You worry too much. Kirk ain't gonna shit no bed. He's gonna rip the Packers a new one!

I think we've had a poor team for so long that we keep waiting for something bad to happen. After an amazing season by Kirk and a completely unexpected 9-7 record culminating in a playoff berth, we're playing with house money, dude! It's [U]all[/U] good!

As for the doubters, they're just ignorant, so why care what they think?

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[url]http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2605673-overlooked-kirk-cousins-has-studied-his-way-to-the-top-of-the-game[/url]

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[url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/redskinsblog/cousins-named-nfc-offensive-player-month]Cousins named NFC Offensive Player of the Month | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url]

Future contract is getting healthier everyday.

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[quote=Brody81;1136283]Kirk is getting a whole lot of good national publicity.. I just hope he doesn't shit the bed Sunday. I would hate for the douters to start popping there heads out again.[/quote]

That would be old Redskin style of course. I think a LOT of us here have that deep down gnawing feeling that the Skins won't show up. Or KC will have a crazy bad day. Punch doesn't know how much I hope his hyper positive attitude turns out to be the right one!!!

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[quote=kingj;1136299][url=http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2605673-overlooked-kirk-cousins-has-studied-his-way-to-the-top-of-the-game]Overlooked Kirk Cousins Has Studied His Way to the Top of the Game | Bleacher Report[/url][/quote]

Good article, makes me really wonder how that stupid brain fart at the end of the half in the Philly game happened

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1136306]Good article, makes me really wonder how that stupid brain fart at the end of the half in the Philly game happened[/quote]

Not sure I understand what you mean. I just read the article, found it very interesting. But not sure I see the connection to that and the mistake kneel down in Philly.

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[quote=J. Falcon;1136312]Not sure I understand what you mean. I just read the article, found it very interesting. But not sure I see the connection to that and the mistake kneel down in Philly.[/quote]

It popped in my mind after this part:

[quote]As a rookie, he started watching the Monday night game every week from a head coach's perspective, notebook in hand. When does it make sense to take a sack? When do I need to stay in bounds? When should I clock it?[/quote]

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1136296]You worry too much. Kirk ain't gonna shit no bed. He's gonna rip the Packers a new one!





I think we've had a poor team for so long that we keep waiting for something bad to happen. After an amazing season by Kirk and a completely unexpected 9-7 record culminating in a playoff berth, we're playing with house money, dude! It's [U]all[/U] good!





As for the doubters, they're just ignorant, so why care what they think?[/QUOTE]



Thanks KI.. Your right! Go get'em Kirk!!

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He's going to have an off game eventually. Hopefully not until next year of course. But when he does, the haters will hate. That's just the game.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1136306]Good article, makes me really wonder how that stupid brain fart at the end of the half in the Philly game happened[/quote]

He's human and he goofed... probably nothing more than that.

Thankfully we won otherwise it would have been an all time bone headed play like Frerotte.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1136341]He's going to have an off game eventually. Hopefully not until next year of course. But when he does, the haters will hate. That's just the game.[/QUOTE]
If he has 3 ints Sunday I can honestly say I would still want him long term

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All the top QB's in this league have bad games ..as a matter of fact all players have off games. even The great Redskins in the Gibbs era struggled at times.. Cousins has carried this team to this point and now its time for the running game and the rest of the team to play all out and beat the Packers. I believe we win sunday night 31-30 with the D making big plays and the running game coming on strong!

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This is pretty awesome.
[url]https://www.facebook.com/redskins/videos/10153995805544574/[/url]

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[quote=punch it in;1136396]This is pretty awesome.
[url]https://www.facebook.com/redskins/videos/10153995805544574/[/url][/quote]

Contract negotiations. KC's agent walks in, opens his laptop with this playing, and says, you like that, now let's talk.

that was an impressive highlight reel.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1136398]Contract negotiations. KC's agent walks in, opens his laptop with this playing, and says, you like that, now let's talk.



that was an impressive highlight reel.[/QUOTE]


Hahaha. Thats what I would do!

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Not sure if this was posted elsewhere, but for anyone who doesn't think that Cousins can continue to grow and develop into an even better QB, read this: [url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2605673-overlooked-kirk-cousins-has-studied-his-way-to-the-top-of-the-game?utm_campaign=tsiphone&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=teamstream]Overlooked Kirk Cousins Has Studied His Way to the Top of the Game | Bleacher Report[/url]

Love the character that this shows. I read this article to my kids last night (they're 10 and 11) to illustrate the importance of hard work/preparation, perseverance, and believing in yourself. Even my 10-year old daughter paid rapt attention, and she isn't a football fan (yet).

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That is an amazing story about Cousins and his fortitude.

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He arrived and gave us two fumbles, a bunch of near interceptions, and a lot of sacks at critical moments.

Its too soon to say whether he is a good QB, he was okay this season against losing teams, he was mediocre to horrendous against teams with winning records.

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[QUOTE=Avinash_Tyagi;1137072]He arrived and gave us two fumbles, a bunch of near interceptions, and a lot of sacks at critical moments.



Its too soon to say whether he is a good QB, he was okay this season against losing teams, he was mediocre to horrendous against teams with winning records.[/QUOTE]


Beat it

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[quote=punch it in;1137074]Beat it[/quote]

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[QUOTE=Avinash_Tyagi;1137075][IMG]https://media.giphy.com/media/IgsXOXGPxfT3O/giphy.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]


How many weeks have you been waiting to post something negative about Cousins? Our D let us down tonight. Did you ever think that maybe Cousins is able to carry the team against less than stellar competition and when we play a good team he needs help from the run game , defense, etc?

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[quote=punch it in;1137078]How many weeks have you been waiting to post something negative about Cousins? Our D let us down tonight. Did you ever think that maybe Cousins is able to carry the team against less than stellar competition and when we play a good team he needs help from the run game , defense, etc?[/quote]

Our Defense let us down?

ROFL, they gave us a huge start to the game, it's because of the D that we had a lead at the beginning.

It was the Offense that failed to seal the deal, Cousins made too many mistakes.

Cousins does well against weak teams, but is too mistake prone when facing skilled teams.

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[QUOTE=Avinash_Tyagi;1137084]Our Defense let us down?



ROFL, they gave us a huge start to the game, it's because of the D that we had a lead at the beginning.



It was the Offense that failed to seal the deal, Cousins made too many mistakes.



Cousins does well against weak teams, but is too mistake prone when facing skilled teams.[/QUOTE]


I don't usually get rude on here but you are a moron.

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[quote=punch it in;1137085]I don't usually get rude on here but you are a moron.[/quote]

That's the comeback I expected, only shows that you have no real counterargument.

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The fact that you believe Cousins is a problem and our defense kept us in the game is enough for me to realize that arguing with you is a waste of my time.