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[quote=irish;1103763]I couldn't agree more. I have been saying for awhile that this organization has been being broken for 20 years and it could take over 5 years to fix. This team is in total rebuild mode but management will never come out and say it for fear of scaring off the few remaining ticket buying fans they have.

SM doesn't need to spend money on over-priced FAs, he need to get as many draft picks as he can get so this team can start down the road of drafting and developing players like all successful NFL teams do. SM has a huge and very difficult job ahead.[/quote]

I hope SM has told them they're in rebuild mode. Seems to me that's a tough pill to swallow for Snyder and Allen. We need to operate just like Jacksonville is. Even though they suck, they're doing it the right way.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1103738]Yes. Cutting Bowen would clear $5.5M in space. He is as good as gone, especially since Haslett won't be here to go to bat for him.[/QUOTE]


Cutting Bowen seems like a no-brainer. He was never worth the $$ we gave him.

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[quote=Mattyk;1103780]Gruden still likes him too so it's doubtful they move him.[/quote]

Yup. I got a feeling now RG3 will certainly be moved now.

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[quote=Chico23231;1103768]During that draft, I heard McC was high on Cousins.[/quote]

Not high enough on him to pick him ahead of where they took Wilson in the third round though.

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[quote=Evilgrin;1103785]Not high enough on him to pick him ahead of where they took Wilson in the third round though.[/quote]

Yeah, I mean McC is not an idiot.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1103781]I hope SM has told them they're in rebuild mode. Seems to me that's a tough pill to swallow for Snyder and Allen. We need to operate just like Jacksonville is. Even though they suck, they're doing it the right way.[/quote]

Its a tough pill to swallow for everyone. The best thing the Skins could do is to think of themselves as an expansion franchise (the sad truth is they aren't too far removed from an expansion franchise talent) and build from the inside out.

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[quote=Hog1;1103775]can you blame them for that?
Just intelligent marketing.............or bait and switch depending how you look at it[/quote]

I dont blame them one bit but the charade has worn thin and nobody is buying that this team is close.

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[quote=Hog1;1103775]can you blame them for that?
Just intelligent marketing.............or bait and switch depending how you look at it[/quote]

Honestly, I think if they came out and said they're in rebuild mode, it would show they've got a real plan in place. I personally would not be turned off by this at all. Actually... I would welcome this type statement, and I think a lot of fans would too.

Re: Scot McCloughan to be new Redskins GM
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1103792]Honestly, I think if they came out and said they're in rebuild mode, it would show they've got a real plan in place. I personally would not be turned off by this at all. Actually... I would welcome this type statement, and I think a lot of fans would too.[/quote]

I would welcome it. It would show that people in Redskins Park have a clue. You can't fix a problem if you are not aware of it.

Instead we get "winning off the field."

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I'm pretty sure McCloughan knows what's up, and the task ahead of him. I don't care what they call it the proof will be in how we approach each offseason for the next 4 years. He's going to build through the draft and free agency should be much different too.

Re: Scot McCloughan to be new Redskins GM
 

[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;1103771]If the super bowl ends up being dallas vs. baltimore my football fandom will be in serious jeopardy.[/quote]

100% agree. Baltimore fans feel almost as bandwagon-y as the Cowboys. As soon as that team got good, even Skins fans defected.

Now, back on topic, for the first time in a while I trust our front office structure and LOVE that he (supposedly) has the autonomy to build the team however he wants.

Re: Scot McCloughan to be new Redskins GM
 

For those who are on the fence or who choose to believe McCloughan will just be another bad hire by Snyder, you need to realize how well respected McCloughan is around the NFL. He's been doing this for over 20 years now, and he's still young (43 years old.) Just don't believe every little thing you hear from fans on the internet in terms of this guy. Read the [URL="http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/12014699/scot-mccloughan-nfl-best-talent-scout-self-employed-living-farm"]ESPN article[/URL] on him, that will give you a little incite.

Just also keep in mind that every General Manager, no matter how good or bad, is going to miss on guys. McCloughan has been called a savant of sorts when it comes to scouting, but he'll even admit that he misses on more than he gets right. But the players he gets right usually wind up doing better than all other drafted players of the league - especially as they progress throughout their careers. So, don't expect him to hit a winner on every pick, but do expect him to hit on more than our front office has in the past 15 years.

I think this is real change. I think this is legit. I know we have been fooled before, but this is exactly what we have asked for.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1103792]Honestly, I think if they came out and said they're in rebuild mode, it would show they've got a real plan in place.[B] I personally would not be turned off by this at all[/B]. Actually... I would welcome this type statement, and I think a lot of fans would too.[/quote]
Nor would I.....

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[quote=skinsguy;1103802]

I think this is real change. I think this is legit. I know we have been fooled before, but this is exactly what we have asked for.[/quote]

Hey can I use this for my Facebook Post?

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[quote=skinsguy;1103802]Good stuff here[/quote]

I'm on the fence because of his personal problems with alcoholism.
I've never seen a recovering alcoholic with the "one beer is ok" mentality be successful.

Who knows how long he will last.

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As long as we win a lot he can chug Mickeys Malt Liquor all day for all I care.

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[quote=jamf;1103826]I'm on the fence because of his personal problems with alcoholism.
I've never seen a recovering alcoholic with the "one beer is ok" mentality be successful.

Who knows how long he will last.[/quote]

It's possible he's not an alcoholic.

There are differences between true alcoholics and those that abuse alcohol. I'm not going to get too deep into it but I have a good friend who's a counselor that could explain it a lot better than I can.

This touches on what I'm talking about.

[url=http://www.bettyfordcenter.org/treatment/doctors-office/can-alcoholics-return-to-social-drinking.php]Can alcoholics return to social drinking?[/url]

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[QUOTE=Alvin Walton;1103828]As long as we win a lot he can chug Mickeys Malt Liquor all day for all I care.[/QUOTE]



My beer of choice in my youth..

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1103830]It's possible he's not an alcoholic.





There are differences between true alcoholics and those that abuse alcohol. I'm not going to get too deep into it but I have a good friend who's a counselor that could explain it a lot better than I can.





This touches on what I'm talking about.





[url=http://www.bettyfordcenter.org/treatment/doctors-office/can-alcoholics-return-to-social-drinking.php]Can alcoholics return to social drinking?[/url][/QUOTE]



Alot of people probably considered me an alcoholic when I was going through my divorce. Divorce can bring out the best in people.



P.S. I'm a casual drinker now, and I'm doing just fine now. 🍸🍻🍷

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Seal of approval from "the man", enough
Said.

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsblog/bobby-beathard-fan-new-redskins-gm-scot-mccloughan]Bobby Beathard is a 'fan' of new Redskins GM Scot McCloughan | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/url]

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Lmao, who voted F?

[IMG]https://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz3gd4LugV1r6i3cdo1_500.jpg[/IMG]

Re: Scot McCloughan to be new Redskins GM
 

[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;1103771]If the super bowl ends up being dallas vs. baltimore my football fandom will be in serious jeopardy.[/quote]

I'll probably just burn my TV. That's pretty much my worst nightmare.

I've never been a bigger Patriots fan than I am this weekend and this weekend only.

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[quote=Brody81;1103832]My beer of choice in my youth..[/quote]

I used to love those green grenades. Back in the 80's when I was drinking Mickey's, that was considered the good stuff! Couldn't drink it now if you paid me to.

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From Tandler:

"In looking around to read as much as I can on Scot McCloughan there is one point that comes up frequently—he like big guys. 'I’ll never lose sight of this and maybe I’m a dinosaur in this, but it’s a big man’s game,' he said at the 2010 NFL Combine when he was the GM of the 49ers."

[I]Now, that is just what I hoped to hear about him! Hogs - Part II. Huge NT. Huge linemen everywhere. Huge, tough, fast linemen. Linemen dominating the LOS on both sides of the ball. That is what will get us to where we want to be.[/I]

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Looklng forward to the press conference today.

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What time is the press conference? Anyone know where you can watch it live?

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1103836]Seal of approval from "the man", enough
Said.

[URL="http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsblog/bobby-beathard-fan-new-redskins-gm-scot-mccloughan"]Bobby Beathard is a 'fan' of new Redskins GM Scot McCloughan | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/URL][/quote]

If Beathard is this high on McCloughan, then that's enough for me to throw my support firmly behind him. I won't get to watch the pressure live, but I'll be looking forward to watching the recording of it.

I can't wait to see what his first move as GM is going to be.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1103868]What time is the press conference? Anyone know where you can watch it live?[/quote]

Scheduled for Noon Eastern, you can watch it on Redskins.com or CSNWashington.com

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[quote=skinsguy;1103869]If Beathard is this high on McCloughan, then that's enough for me to throw my support firmly behind him. I won't get to watch the pressure live, but I'll be looking forward to watching the recording of it.

I can't wait to see what his first move as GM is going to be.[/quote]

Bobby Beathard is one of my heroes. His endorsement lends a tremendous amount of
credibility to the McCloughan hire in my mind.

Now, if Scot could just go out and duplicate Beathard's 1981 draft.

1. Mark May
3. Russ Grimm
5. Dexter Manley
6. Larry Kubin
8. Charlie Brown
9. Darryl Grant
12. Clint Didier
UDFA. Joe Jacoby

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I'm not sure they can pass the physical fitness test.......

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[quote=skinsguy;1103869]I can't wait to see what his first move as GM is going to be.[/quote]

Hopefully to tie Dan up and stick him in a closet.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1103870]Scheduled for Noon Eastern, you can watch it on Redskins.com or CSNWashington.com[/quote]

Thanks!

About time you contributed something useful.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1103876]Thanks!

About time you contributed something useful.[/quote]



:laughing-

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1103876]Thanks!

About time you contributed something useful.[/quote]

You're just itching for another ban, aren't you?

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[quote=Hog1;1103874]I'm not sure they can pass the physical fitness test.......[/quote]

That depends. How many brews do you need to be able to pound in a one hour period to pass?

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[quote=Skins1570;1103866]Looklng forward to the press conference today.[/quote]

Looking forward to seeing the media bombard him with QB questions and zero questions about the secondary and offensive line.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1103871]Bobby Beathard is one of my heroes. His endorsement lends a tremendous amount of
credibility to the McCloughan hire in my mind.

Now, if Scot could just go out and duplicate Beathard's 1981 draft.

1. Mark May
3. Russ Grimm
5. Dexter Manley
6. Larry Kubin
8. Charlie Brown
9. Darryl Grant
12. Clint Didier
UDFA. Joe Jacoby[/quote]

I've seen this before but I'm just as amazed every time I see it.

Were any other NFL teams drafting that year??

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1981 was a pretty stocked draft overall - 8 HOF'ers in the 1st 3 rounds and tons of recognizable solid non-HOF guys too.

At the same time, the late round picks of Grant, Didier and free agent signing of Jacoby were amazing hits.

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In 1981 we practiced an art that we have lost: developing players. I'm convinced that we could have drafted different players, at least in some cases, and come up with similar results, simply because we (gasp) made the chosen players better.

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The fact that McCoughan liked Kirk Cousins in 2012 means nothing, Kirk has 18 TDs /19 Int. and a propensity to turn the ball over in clutch moments. He can make all the throws but doesn't have the mental fortitude to be a top tiered starting QB.

I ask all you KC fans, what makes him different from Rex Grossman?