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[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore?gid=20121111003]Houston at Chicago | Sunday November 11, 2012 | NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]



I know it was raining and there were 2 good defenses, but this is one ugly box score for the QBs.

Schaub - 95 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT

Campbell - 94 yards
Cutler - 40 yards, 2 INTs

Last night I said Chicago was the best team but I just don't trust jay Cutler in big games.

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[url=http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8609918/jacksonville-done-much-help-itself]Jacksonville hasn't done much to help itself - Grantland[/url]


How this Jaguars GM still has his job is beyond me.

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[quote=NC_Skins;963325][url=http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8609918/jacksonville-done-much-help-itself]Jacksonville hasn't done much to help itself - Grantland[/url]


How this Jaguars GM still has his job is beyond me.[/quote]

or AJ Smith or the Jets' GM.

Jags are pathetic, easily then worst team

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[quote=SmootSmack;963301]Panthers' Special Teams coach...gone[/quote]

They are just working their way up on the food chain till they get to Rivera. He's without a doubt gone after the season.

Panthers
Titans
Eagles
Dallas( maybe)
Washington( maybe)
Jets( maybe)

All might have hc jobs open

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[quote=skinsfaninok;963335]Panthers
Titans
Eagles
Dallas( maybe)
Washington( maybe)
Jets( maybe)

All might have hc jobs open[/quote]


You can scratch off Washington off that list. Mike isn't going anywhere much to the displeasure of Goat, Punch, and GTripp. The only way is if Mike walks away.

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[quote=NC_Skins;963337]You can scratch off Washington off that list. Mike isn't going anywhere much to the displeasure of Goat, Punch, and GTripp. The only way is if Mike walks away.[/quote]

I think alot depends on how we finish out the year and who's available. DS doesn't want to look like his old self but if there is enough displeasure with the fans...I think that lets him off the hook. Can't believe everything you read of course but I don't think he was to thrilled with Mikes remarks after the Carolina game referrng to now evaluating who's gonna be on this team next year. No matter how he meant it....it did sound a little like throwing in the towel on this season.

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[quote=SmootSmack;963300]Vick could be done for the year. Question is was that his last game as an Eagle?[/quote]

Vick suffered a very serious concussion yesterday. I read an article from a philly journal that said he might have suffered minor brain injury judging from post-injury tests, and comments from his wife that he was naseus and shaking on his way back to their home.

Vick's criminal past not-withstanding, and I don't even want to debate about right or wrong concerning him, i think it is truly sad that a week ago his brother Marcus was on twitter saying how bad the eagles line was and that he didn't want to see his brother have brain damage by the time he's 40, and here Vick is at 33 and he may indeed have suffered brain damage (albeit minor) yesterday.

If Reid is retained by the eagles, I believe that Vick will stay with the eagles and re-negotiate his salary to be a transitional guy until Foles or whoever is ready. If Reid gets canned, then I think Vick might end up in Arizona or Minnesota, if he is able to come back at 100%.

Seriously with all of the hits he's taken and especially now with maybe facing brain damage / post concussion syndrome i wouldn't be surprised if Vick has thoughts of retiring, as he has young children, etc. not worth getting permanent brain damage to continue to play football.

[QUOTE=SolidSnake84;963348]Vick suffered a very serious concussion yesterday. I read an article from a philly journal that said he might have suffered minor brain injury judging from post-injury tests, and comments from his wife that he was naseus and shaking on his way back to their home.

Vick's criminal past not-withstanding, and I don't even want to debate about right or wrong concerning him, i think it is truly sad that a week ago his brother Marcus was on twitter saying how bad the eagles line was and that he didn't want to see his brother have brain damage by the time he's 40, and here Vick is at 33 and he may indeed have suffered brain damage (albeit minor) yesterday.

If Reid is retained by the eagles, I believe that Vick will stay with the eagles and re-negotiate his salary to be a transitional guy until Foles or whoever is ready. If Reid gets canned, then I think Vick might end up in Arizona or Minnesota, if he is able to come back at 100%.

Seriously with all of the hits he's taken and especially now with maybe facing brain damage / post concussion syndrome i wouldn't be surprised if Vick has thoughts of retiring, as he has young children, etc. not worth getting permanent brain damage to continue to play football.[/QUOTE]

He's done IMO.

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;963352]He's done IMO.[/QUOTE]

If true, I will not shed any tears.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;963357]If true, I will not shed any tears.[/quote]

Neither will a lot of dog lovers. No loss.

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Ehhhh, he was exciting to watch, but Im sure alot of people dont give a dog shit about him, and rightfully so. Wouldnt wish brain injuries on anyone though. Hope he gets well.

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[quote=NC_Skins;963337]You can scratch off Washington off that list. Mike isn't going anywhere much to the displeasure of Goat, Punch, and GTripp. [B]The only way is if Mike walks away[/B].[/quote]

I could actually see this happening. If Mike is honestly burnt out I could see him walking away this offseason. I'm kinda torn on whether or not I support this move but if he's definitely burnt out and doesn't have the energy or passion for us anymore then I definitely support it.

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[quote=mooby;963362]I could actually see this happening. If Mike is honestly burnt out I could see him walking away this offseason. I'm kinda torn on whether or not I support this move but if he's definitely burnt out and doesn't have the energy or passion for us anymore then I definitely support it.[/quote]

"Let us pray. Dear father, whom art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.........."

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[quote=Mechanix544;963364]"Let us pray. Dear father, whom art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.........."[/quote]

"whom" ??

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[quote=NC_Skins;963337]You can scratch off Washington off that list. Mike isn't going anywhere much to the displeasure of Goat, Punch, and GTripp. The only way is if Mike walks away.[/quote]

Agreed, and the chance of that happening is probably slim to none. Why would he walk away from $7M/yr? Plus I don't see his pride letting that happen. He would love to prove the haters wrong.

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I actually am kind of a fan of Vick now that I think about it. I'm a die hard skins fan but you have to respect the guys talent and what he has done in the league. I really think he is getting more heat than he deserves right now and he is handling it like a true pro. I hope he gets healthy and plays where he wishes next year.

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[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;963371]but you have to respect the guys talent and what he has done in the league.[/quote]Why? The Falcons were much better off with Matt Ryan, who's never going to be confused with Brady or Peyton. [quote=Bubba305-ST21-;963371]I really think he is getting more heat than he deserves right now and he is handling it like a true pro.[/quote]Vick is still lucky he was busted for dog fighting, before he was busted for complicity in a drug running investigation. How is Vick handling his current problems any different than an average player in the league?

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[quote=HailGreen28;963376]Why? The Falcons were much better off with Matt Ryan, who's never going to be confused with Brady or Peyton. [/quote]

Just respecting his talents man, the guy was and kind of still is electrifying. And Idk man, Vick got the falcons farther than matt ryan has so far without even half of the talent they have on that team right now. Vick had big old Crumpler and thats it. Brady and Peyton are in their own league.

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[quote=HailGreen28;963376]Vick is still lucky he was busted for dog fighting, before he was busted for complicity in a drug running investigation. How is Vick handling his current problems any different than an average player in the league?[/quote]

Idk man, i just think hes catching alot of crap that isn't all him, thats all. He's kept his cool about it, unlike his brother lol

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Ray Edwards anyone? I say give him a look, why not

What separates Brady and Manning from the rest is they are automatic every week.

Guys like Eli, Ben, brees all have spotty games at times.

There are only 2 Elite Qbs and that's brady and Manning. Rodgers is 3rd best IMO. But he's not elite just yet.

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Leftwich in.......?
What happened to Ben?

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If there was one defensive player I would sign if he became a FA, it would be Tamba Hali. If that guy played on a good team people would speak about him as they do about Demarcus Ware.

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I swear Byron Leftwich is a full size version of Gary Coleman.

Some teams get all the breaks with penalties.

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[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;963384]Ray Edwards anyone? I say give him a look, why not[/quote]

What??


He's available? Or are you saying after the season?

Edit: Nevermind, saw that he was cut per PFT.

I say pick him up redskins. NOTHING TO LOSE!

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[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;963384]Ray Edwards anyone? I say give him a look, why not[/quote]

Why would we want a 4-3 DE?

If anything, they should take a look at Stanford Routt, but at this point we need more safety help than anything else.

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[quote=Ruhskins;963409]Why would we want a 4-3 DE?

If anything, they should take a look at Stanford Routt, but at this point we need more safety help than anything else.[/quote]

Because he could be a good stand up pass rusher. You just don't know.

And Stanford Routt is one of the top 5 Worst CBs in the league, according to pro football focus.

What in terms of position, Ray Edwards is a better DE than what Stanford Routt is to CBs.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;963410]Because he could be a good stand up pass rusher. You just don't know.

And Stanford Routt is one of the top 5 Worst CBs in the league, according to pro football focus.

What in terms of position, Ray Edwards is a better DE than what Stanford Routt is to CBs.[/quote]

Edwards had knee issues last year and after playing 6 years in the 4-3 he's not going to become a good 3-4 pass rusher in a matter of days. Given our sh*tty secondary, if I must chose one, I'd chose Routt. In reality, we're not going to acquire a player to fix our defensive woes overnight.

While there might be players out there that can easily switch between one scheme and the other, I just think it is a bit silly to suggest the acquisition of a player from a defensive scheme that is not ours. That's like me suggesting for us to get a 350-lb tackle for our zone blocking o-line.

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scheme isn't everything. if he can get to the QB, try it, cause we can't.

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[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;963371]I actually am kind of a fan of Vick now that I think about it. I'm a die hard skins fan but you have to respect the guys talent and what he has done in the league. I really think he is getting more heat than he deserves right now and he is handling it like a true pro. I hope he gets healthy and plays where he wishes next year.[/quote]

What he has done in the league?

You mean below-average passing ability, criminal and immoral activities that now only hurt his team by taking himself off the field, but taking himself our of society while in a prison cell for a while?

Or do you mean the drug offenses and shooting the middle finger to fans?

He's been a scumbag on and off the field and yes, he's a gifted athlete in terms of speed, he's been a mediocre quarterback at best. He's managed a few great games in his career, just like Rex Grossman.

His Commissioner-mandated apology tour doesn't make up for what he has done.

If I never have to watch him play again, I'll be happy.

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[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;963371]I actually am kind of a fan of Vick now that I think about it. I'm a die hard skins fan but you have to respect the guys talent and what he has done in the league. I really think he is getting more heat than he deserves right now and he is handling it like a true pro. I hope he gets healthy and plays where he wishes next year.[/quote]

Other than his off the field transgressions, which he already went to jail for, I really have nothing against Vick. I don't think he is good enough to overcome the sh*tty offensive line Andy Reid has placed in front of him (made even worst by injuries).

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[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;963371]I actually am kind of a fan of Vick now that I think about it. I'm a die hard skins fan[B][U] but you have to respect the guys talent and what he has done in the league[/U][/B]. I really think he is getting more heat than he deserves right now and he is handling it like a true pro. I hope he gets healthy and plays where he wishes next year.[/quote]

:bs: I dont have to respect him for what he's done in the league or away from it. Hang on my chocolate lab Sandy needs to go outside.

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[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;963380]Just respecting his talents man, the guy was and kind of still is electrifying. And Idk man, Vick got the falcons farther than matt ryan has so far without even half of the talent they have on that team right now. Vick had big old Crumpler and thats it. Brady and Peyton are in their own league.[/quote]

He hasn't done jack shit in the league. He's just been a glorified RB except for one fluke year.


ps. He also had Roddy White on that team and still couldn't get it done.

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In terms of talent, as NC said, he had one fluke year and was always a gimmick QB and nothing more. He helped the Falcons win a few games but he has never been more than a poor man's Randall Cunningham.

While I wouldn't wish injury on the most despicable of players, I am hopeful that I will never have to watch him on a football field again.

[Not sure if I ever said what my solution to his off-field the field issues was: Douse him in A-1 sauce and put him in the ring with his dogs for an hour. After that, debt paid.]

[QUOTE=Mechanix544;963364]"Let us pray. Dear father, whom art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.........."[/QUOTE]

Cant believe you didnt get honorable mention from NC Skins.......

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;963213]Texted my friend (huge Bears fan) that they were ****ed as soon as JC came into the game. Told him no way he's going to lead a team from behind. Guy is a complete bum.[/QUOTE]

Still afraid to throw the ball - even with man coverage on Marshall down field. Chuck the ball to him man! I was thoroughly enjoying watching JC in that game - because he wasnt wearing the b&g.