Re: Brunell Starting
 

I said early in the spring when everyone was constantly bashing Brunell that we would see him again this season, I just didn't know it would be in week two. Whether we choose to beleive it or not, there are several players on the team that do not share many of us negative views on Brunell and I have first hand knowledge of their feelings.
What we need now is for Ramsey to be as supportive of Brunell as Brunell was of him because the way things look now we're going to need them both before the season is over. So, lets stay cool guys, dont kill anybody, keep the faith and stay supportive because we have a long way to go yet!!

Re: Brunell Starting
 

TAFKAS:

Can I have a spot on the Bandwagon with you guys, too? Hail to the Redskins...no matter who the QB is! I've been with them through the glory years, and if they're going down in flames, I'll go down with them!

Re: Brunell Starting
 

[QUOTE=That Guy]he said he couldn't make it in his press conference, and that it was unfair to ask him to throw it ;)

since he wasn't warmed up... but then again, its been over a YEAR now and he has yet to warm up :([/QUOTE]

He was kidding. Re-read the article on the quote. I'll find it and post it after the Weasels game.

Re: Brunell Starting
 

All I can say is good riddance! Trade Ramsey's ass if that's what we wants - let him take his cannon arm and unrealized potential to some other team (to an offense where he could be more successful) - no hard feelings. If we can get a second round pick for him in next year's draft, that's a good deal for us. There might even be teams that'll give us a 1st rounder (the Dolphins were willing last year).

I just could not see us winning against Dallas with Ramsey at the helm. Even though Ramsey was QB in the only win against Dallas in the last 15 games, it was a meaningless game 16, and even in that game, he managed to throw an INT that Roy Williams returned 70 odd yards for a TD.

If Brunell stinks it up,and we're 1-5, then start Jason Campbell and let him learn on the job, since the job will be his next year.

Re: Brunell Starting
 

[QUOTE=hurrykaine]All I can say is good riddance! Trade Ramsey's ass if that's what we wants - let him take his cannon arm and unrealized potential to some other team (to an offense where he could be more successful) - no hard feelings. If we can get a second round pick for him in next year's draft, that's a good deal for us. There might even be teams that'll give us a 1st rounder (the Dolphins were willing last year).

I just could not see us winning against Dallas with Ramsey at the helm. Even though Ramsey was QB in the only win against Dallas in the last 15 games, it was a meaningless game 16, and even in that game, he managed to throw an INT that Roy Williams returned 70 odd yards for a TD.

If Brunell stinks it up,and we're 1-5, then start Jason Campbell and let him learn on the job, since the job will be his next year.[/QUOTE]

What you're really saying is that this season is over with before it's hardly begun. Because, mark my words, Mr. Brunell will be no better than last year, and neither will the offense if he's leading it.

But, I don't blame Brunell for bringing on this early season mess and instability. I lay the blame squarely where it belongs - on Gibbs' shoulders.

Re: Brunell Starting
 

[QUOTE=RedskinRat]He was kidding. Re-read the article on the quote. I'll find it and post it after the Weasels game.[/QUOTE]

well, TAFKAS said he wanted proof he actually said it, and its sitting on redskins.com for all to see, I was just pointing it out.

Re: Brunell Starting
 

You have to trust Gibbs on this. He must truely believe that Ramsey can not be a winning NFL QB. Gibbs does not have a mean bone in his body so this is nothing personal. he has to make the decision that he feels is best for the Redskins and he's doing that. I will second guess Gibbs when I feel like I know more football than he does. I am not there yet though...

Re: Brunell Starting
 

[QUOTE=RedskinRat]
Please post proof of Brunell saying he couldn't make that throw.
[/QUOTE]

You want proof go to the Redskins.com website and download the press conference you will need the Real Player media player fast forwarded to the 20 min 4 second mark and then 22 min 13 second mark and you will have all of the "proof" that you will need.

As for me I have had enough of this horse shit. This franchise is even more of joke than before. You don't treat a player like Gibbs has treated Ramsey, if he is no good then cut'em or trade him, but to basically bald face lie and ruin a young man's confidence when you are already enshrined in Canton Ohio is pathetic. Gibbs was a good coach, but Gibbs II as GM/Coach the jury is still out.

If I end up being wrong so be it, others can gloat and call me out, say my opinion/posts are poop. I could careless. I am only pissed that I shelled out over $300 dollars for two tickets to see two games and for parking, only to be in store for Brunell ball. May have to spend another $300 on beer just to get thru the games.

Re: Brunell Starting
 

[QUOTE=celts32]You have to trust Gibbs on this. He must truely believe that Ramsey can not be a winning NFL QB. Gibbs does not have a mean bone in his body so this is nothing personal. he has to make the decision that he feels is best for the Redskins and he's doing that. I will second guess Gibbs when I feel like I know more football than he does. I am not there yet though...[/QUOTE]

Yes, we must trust Gibbs.

Re: Brunell Starting
 

[QUOTE=DirtBagZ]If I end up being wrong so be it, others can gloat and call me out, say my opinion/posts are poop. I could careless. I am only pissed that I shelled out over $300 dollars for two tickets to see two games and for parking, only to be in store for Brunell ball. May have to spend another $300 on beer just to get thru the games.[/QUOTE]

Are you going to watch the team or were you just looking forward to watching Ramsey play? What will you do if Brunell is playing and the Redskins win, even if it's 9-7? Still complain?

Re: Brunell Starting
 

was keeping Brunell in so long last season for a 6-10 record "good for the team"?

Gibbs is a great coach, but he's human. and that means flawed like any other human. he's noted for his pride, and i think he didn't want *his* team playing without *his* QB. he's entitled to run this team how he wants (especially the Redskins), but then he shouldn't really say everything he does is truly "good for the team"

Re: Brunell Starting
 

[QUOTE=skinsguy]TAFKAS:

Can I have a spot on the Bandwagon with you guys, too? Hail to the Redskins...no matter who the QB is! I've been with them through the glory years, and if they're going down in flames, I'll go down with them![/QUOTE]

Always room my burgundy brother

Re: Brunell Starting
 

[QUOTE=That Guy]well, TAFKAS said he wanted proof he actually said it, and its sitting on redskins.com for all to see, I was just pointing it out.[/QUOTE]

When did I ask for that?

Re: Brunell Starting
 

[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Are you going to watch the team or were you just looking forward to watching Ramsey play? What will you do if Brunell is playing and the Redskins win, even if it's 9-7? Still complain?[/QUOTE]

If the Redskins win, a win is win. I take issue with how Ramsey was treated, if he was not going to be the starter then why and the hell say he is our starter in the off season? If we are going to play like the Ravens superbowl championship team, then so be it, but why bother making the investment in Ramsey for this season? Why not trade him and get another veteran to back-up Brunnel, play it close and let the defence win the games?

Perhaps this last option was not feasible because of the salary cap, it is the just the whole way it is handled does not seem right or honest. The last two things being key, for that is whay I expect from Gibbs his name is practically synomous with the words honesty and integrity. This situation should have been handled better for the good of the team, now there are most likely seeds of distrust that are planted inside the locker room, hopefully it will not spread for it will ruin the team. No one, Gibbs included is above the team.

Re: Brunell Starting
 

[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Are you going to watch the team or were you just looking forward to watching Ramsey play? What will you do if Brunell is playing and the Redskins win, even if it's 9-7? Still complain?[/QUOTE]

Word, I mean why cry over it this is why Gibbs is here. He's the coach, he's the F$#@ing man, he 's the guy who's lifted up the lombardi trophy over and over. We hired him to make the decisions that others wouldn't, couldn't under danny snyder. He 's made the call now let's see if he brings the wood.

This hurts because we like PR because he went through hell with Spurrier. However this doesn't mean he's gonna be the underdog hero like Rudy, I mean this isn't f@#$ing hollywood this is the NFL. When you don't meet the standard set by your boss someone else gets a shot no matter what the fans, the Ape Terry Bradshaw, media, or anybody says.

Support the general...let the streets flow with the blood of the non believers.