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Terpfan76 01-25-2011 05:13 PM

Re: 2011 Senior Bowl Week
 
[quote=skinsfan69;780377]Everything I'd heard about Locker is...great athlete, will probably blow up at the combine, but simply not a skilled enough pure passer to cut it in the NFL. If he can't consistently shread Pac Ten defenses then I'm not sold that he can be good enough to be a passer in the NFL. Therefore I see no reason to take this guy in the first two rounds.

Let's also realize that this team isn't going to be competing for a Super Bowl for several more years, regardless who's playing QB.[/quote]

To throw in the towel on Locker is a bit premature. True he hasn't looked very good in college especially considering one could easily say he regressed this past season. That being said, he has all the physical talent to play the position and shows the ability to play at a high level, but seems as though he needs more coaching and time to develop. If he were available when we pick in the second round, then I'd be fine with drafting him. It would be a good value pick considering how high people were on him last season.

As for shredding PAC10 defenses, look at the talent level that surrounded him. Not very good so it wouldn't be a stretch to assume that his play would suffer. It reminds me a bit of Archie Manning. He was a damn good qb, he just played for some terrible teams. Can't blame all of the success or failure on one man.

Terpfan76 01-25-2011 05:24 PM

Re: 2011 Senior Bowl Week
 
[quote=T.O.Killa;780317]I guess you think that Grosman will ride us to the Superbowl. Or Maybe Beck? Until we get a QB, we will be medicore at best. The only sure way to get a QB is to keep drafting high till you get one. You dont have a chance untill you have one, so why worry about other pieces untill you have one in place.[/quote]

None of the guys in this years draft have "Franchise QB" written all over them. True, there are a couple guys that are probably first rounders, but none really stand out. Where it gets interesting is in the 2nd round and later where you'll run into guys like Devlin, Ponder, Daulton, and Stanzi etc...
To be honest, the more I see and hear about Devlin, the more I'm interested. I think I'd be much happier with him in rounds two or three vs Daulton or Ponder in either of those spots.

skinsfan69 01-25-2011 07:53 PM

Re: 2011 Senior Bowl Week
 
[quote=Terpfan76;780420]To throw in the towel on Locker is a bit premature. True he hasn't looked very good in college especially considering one could easily say he regressed this past season. That being said, he has all the physical talent to play the position and shows the ability to play at a high level, but seems as though he needs more coaching and time to develop. If he were available when we pick in the second round, then I'd be fine with drafting him. It would be a good value pick considering how high people were on him last season.

As for shredding PAC10 defenses, look at the talent level that surrounded him. Not very good so it wouldn't be a stretch to assume that his play would suffer. It reminds me a bit of Archie Manning. He was a damn good qb, he just played for some terrible teams. Can't blame all of the success or failure on one man.[/quote]

I'm not saying throw in the towel, I'd just pass on him if I were the Redskins cause there are so many other needs.

skinsfan69 01-25-2011 07:55 PM

Re: 2011 Senior Bowl Week
 
[quote=Lotus;780400]To have a shot at Luck we likely will need to have the top overall choice, not just top-5, [B]which means finishing 1-15, 2-14, or maybe 3-13. I'm not wishing for that.[/B][/quote]

Honestly, I am. Cause it's probably the only way we're going to able to be good for a long time. The 2012 draft would be the one I'd be shooting for. Not just with Luck but high draft picks in every round after the 1st and then add free agents to build around Luck.

BuckSkin 01-25-2011 09:02 PM

Re: 2011 Senior Bowl Week
 
I'm curious if the moderators started a new poll, on which position we should draft at #10, what the results would be. Seems to be a ground swell to draft a pass rushing end or OLB. There also seems to be another camp that is hell bent on a QB. Let the current QB post run it's course then let's see this one next.

SmootSmack 01-25-2011 09:11 PM

Re: 2011 Senior Bowl Week
 
[quote=BuckSkin;780450]I'm curious if the moderators started a new poll, on which position we should draft at #10, what the results would be. Seems to be a ground swell to draft a pass rushing end or OLB. There also seems to be another camp that is hell bent on a QB. Let the current QB post run it's course then let's see this one next.[/quote]

We can make that our next poll, we'll do it in a couple of days

CultBrennan59 01-25-2011 11:05 PM

Re: 2011 Senior Bowl Week
 
I'm reading a lot of stuff here about Locker and us possibly getting Woodley, and all these other scenarios.

- I don't want Locker, I agree he looks like a bust to me, but I also don't want Beck or Grossman. Newton is such a boom or bust prospect that his bust potential scares me.

- I would love LaMarr Woodley on this team. However, I don't see it happening, I feel like if the Steelers franchise one guy it would be him.

- However adding to that point, I do think that we could definitely go after Ike Taylor their corner.

- Keep in mind people, the Steelers drafted all these great players on there team, as did the Packers. Free Agency is if your one player away from the Super Bowl, like the Saints with Darren Sharper. We're like 10 players away from the Super Bowl, we have what 7 draft picks, theres a start. We won't be playing in February for at least another couple of years.

Terpfan76 01-25-2011 11:31 PM

Re: 2011 Senior Bowl Week
 
No thanks on Ike Taylor.

skinsfaninok 01-25-2011 11:36 PM

Re: 2011 Senior Bowl Week
 
Ike Taylor is way better than Los so I'd take him in a heartbeat

CultBrennan59 01-25-2011 11:39 PM

Re: 2011 Senior Bowl Week
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;780463]Ike Taylor is way better than Los so I'd take him in a heartbeat[/quote]

Exactly.

SmootSmack 01-26-2011 12:37 AM

Re: 2011 Senior Bowl Week
 
Skins spent time with Kaepernick today, so that's Locker, Stanzi, and Kaepernick as far as QBs they have spoken to-that I know of

Ruhskins 01-26-2011 12:54 AM

Re: 2011 Senior Bowl Week
 
Mort thinks Locker is a first rounder...late first rounder maybe?

juskins 01-26-2011 12:56 AM

Re: 2011 Senior Bowl Week
 
[quote=SmootSmack;780469]Skins spent time with Kaepernick today, so that's Locker, Stanzi, and Kaepernick as far as QBs they have spoken to-that I know of[/quote]



You mean the Skins have the media guessing whom we might select as our QB, if we indeed would select one in this draft? I'm glad they are using some smarts here and not giving the appearance of going along with the suggestions of the main stream sports reporters.

There are other good QBs out there other than Locker. The Skins have made my day by talking to these other young men.

SmootSmack 01-26-2011 08:54 AM

Re: 2011 Senior Bowl Week
 
[quote=SmootSmack;780469]Skins spent time with Kaepernick today, so that's Locker, Stanzi, and Kaepernick as far as QBs they have spoken to-that I know of[/quote]

Add Dalton and Ponder to the list of QBs Skins have shown interest in

Chico23231 01-26-2011 09:01 AM

Re: 2011 Senior Bowl Week
 
[quote=SmootSmack;780497]Add Dalton and Ponder to the list of QBs Skins have shown interest in[/quote]

SS, any QBs we havent shown interest in or the Shanny's see as a bad fit? Bad QB System Fit for short = a McNabb.


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