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GTripp0012 12-08-2010 08:57 PM

Re: When it's all been said and done.
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;766949]Keep in mind it's much easier to say someone is the best ever when they're in the middle of a hot streak. Just this time last year people were trying to make a case for Peyton being a better QB than Brady. Now Peyton is on a streak of games with multiple interceptions while Brady is putting together an MVP worthy campaign. [B]Vick is still the better QB this year but Brady has done enough to give people pause.[/B]

Anyway point is we won't know until Brady's career is over.[/quote]Wait, am I missing something? Has Vick accomplished something that I'm not aware of?

Dirtbag59 12-08-2010 09:15 PM

Re: When it's all been said and done.
 
[quote=GTripp0012;766961]Wait, am I missing something? Has Vick accomplished something that I'm not aware of?[/quote]

Talking about the 2010 MVP, not the greatest QB of all time. Hence the "this year" part.

jamf 12-08-2010 10:10 PM

Re: When it's all been said and done.
 
The one flaw in Mannings game is he can get rattled. There is something about the chargers and ravens scheme that torments him and it's been that way his whole career not just the last year or two. If you can hit Manning, he will start pressing and throw picks.

Montana was at his best against the legendary Bears and Giants defenses of the 80's.
Montana > Brady > Manning

Defensewins 12-08-2010 10:36 PM

Re: When it's all been said and done.
 
[quote=jamf;766974]The one flaw in Mannings game is he can get rattled. There is something about the chargers and ravens scheme that torments him and it's been that way his whole career not just the last year or two. If you can hit Manning, he will start pressing and throw picks.

Montana was at his best against the legendary Bears and Giants defenses of the 80's.
Montana > Brady > Manning[/quote]

They all get rattled from time to time. Some more than others.
Until Manning finally won his singe Sb title, he had the reputation of not being able to win the big big (championship) game. I think to some extent he does tend to force it in big games that they are over matched. He throws interceptions.
In this generation of QB's I tend to favor Brady slightly over Manning.

One thing to keep mind, that tends to piss the younger fans off, is the rule changes created to promote more passing has to be considered.
When Mantana and the older generation QB's played, receivers were not given the free release after 3.5 yards from scrimmage. This is a major consideratinon. as long as the ball was not in the air anyone was fair game.
Also, throw in the excessive roughing the passer rules and today's Qb's have it a little bit easier then yesterdays qb's.

MTK 12-09-2010 08:44 AM

Re: When it's all been said and done.
 
[quote=jamf;766974]The one flaw in Mannings game is he can get rattled. There is something about the chargers and ravens scheme that torments him and it's been that way his whole career not just the last year or two. If you can hit Manning, he will start pressing and throw picks.

Montana was at his best against the legendary Bears and Giants defenses of the 80's.
Montana > Brady > Manning[/quote]

Is there a QB that has ever played the game that doesn't get rattled when facing constant pressure??

skinsfaninok 02-06-2011 04:12 PM

Re: When it's all been said and done.
 
Add another league MVP to the list

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nfl/news/story?id=6095673]Tom Brady first to be voted unanimous AP NFL MVP - ESPN Boston[/url]

TheSmurfs22 02-06-2011 04:20 PM

Re: When it's all been said and done.
 
I always think it is hard to say who will be the greatest of all time, mainly because the game has changed so much. This is no longer a part time job for these guys. Advances in technology and medicine have changed the game as well. Guys come back from injuries that in the past would have ended careers.

Personally, I think you have to look at each guy in the time period in which he played.


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