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Sorry for posting this twice, I went on a tangent in the "Redskins Gear" thread and it probably should have been here.

[quote]Questions about Skins gear?

Don't buy it.

Don't buy it.

Don't buy it.

Let Danny Boy feel the pinch when his product is not making money. Let him feel it when people are not paying the high cost of parking. Let him feel it when no one is there to purchase the high cost of food. Parking is all his, but the food he makes a % of also.

Everyone who has season tickets needs to find Metro and ride in so save on the parking cost. So Danny does not make money there. Then eat at a resturuant prior to arriving at Fed Ex. Then don't spend a dime at the park.

Let Metro have your money. Let the wonderful places around the park have your money who will give you a good product. Then go to the park and not spend a dime. Sooner or later Danny will feel the pinch. [/quote]

I don't know if Fed Ex can do anything towards the team or not. But if DS is not making money to pay for the players, coach's, buildings and equipement, he will start making changes. Six flags is already in the hole so it can't bail him out.

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"maybe someone getting hurt on Fed Ex property or simply everyone start filing suit against him for breach of contract (selling a lemon product. LOL) or something. "


Now that would be an awesome game day item. Buy up a few crates of lemons then slap "Redskins 2009" in burgundy lettering then on the other side "There oughta be a law" on the other side. Wonder how long it would take for the vendor to be issued a cease and desist?

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[quote=LongTimeSkinsFan;618043]"maybe someone getting hurt on Fed Ex property or simply everyone start filing suit against him for breach of contract (selling a lemon product. LOL) or something. "


Now that would be an awesome game day item. Buy up a few crates of lemons then slap "Redskins 2009" in burgundy lettering then on the other side "There oughta be a law" on the other side. Wonder how long it would take for the vendor to be issued a cease and desist?[/quote]

:doh: damn, sometimes I can come up with half a decent idea only to let someone else capitalize on it.

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[quote=SBXVII;618036]or....he could go bankrupt and be forced to sell......maybe someone getting hurt on Fed Ex property or simply everyone start filing suit against him for breach of contract (selling a lemon product. LOL) or something.

Look at the situation this way....if you wanted to see a movie and went to the theater and watched it and thought it sucked afterwards...would you pay the $8 to see it again? Most likely not. Now imagine you've seen all the movies at the theater and want to see something new but your theater keeps showing the same movies...most people would go to another theater and watch another movie. I'm betting no one would pay $8 to see the same damb movies over and over every Sun. for 9 yrs or more. Yet in this situation people are paying thousands of dollars for their season tickets and getting the same show every season, every Sun. for atleast 9 yrs. Not counting the 2 good yrs Gibbs2 had, but I am adding Spurrier. Thousands of dollars.

I understand that sports is different in the sense that it's a coin flip as to the out come of the game vs. a movie which you already know the ending but still if you've seen a crappy show your most likely not going to see it again. and again. and again. etc. etc.[/quote]

Problem is, the Redskins fans that have season tickets are held hostage. I'm not a ticket holder myself, but to use your theater analogy: what if you don't want to see the same thing over and over but if you give up your ticket, you can never get a ticket at that theater again. I feel for the season ticket holders because they've shelled out a ton of money for an inferior product. If they don't go to the game, they've waisted their money. If they scalp their tickets, someone else goes and it doesn't help the cause. If they don't renew their tix, the next guy on the list gets to go. Thing is, the stands still get filled. You're never going to hurt him that way.

I have a gut feeling that this current media/fan barage is going to work. I wouldn't be surprised if DS either makes a drastic move soon (i.e. firing Vinny) or possibly breaking his media silence. Something big is on the horizon.

I've never seen anything like this. [I]Viva la revolucion![/I]

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Still at it, i modified the FedEx email to work (somewhat) for Roger Goodell. I'm not sure I have the right email, but it hasn't been returned to me. I tried the (roger.goodell2@nfl.net) address and it did not work. If you guys have a better option, please let us know...

[email]Roger.Goodell@nfl.net[/email]

Mr. Goodell,
I am a long time fan of the Washington Redskins and I wanted to draw your attention to the iron curtain that is FedEx Field and how this reflects on the NFL's brand. As you may know, FedEx field has effectively become a censorship “state” that deploys coercive tactics to enforce its "new" rules.[1] At present, fans are prohibited from bring any signs (a common site at sporting events), clothing (critical of the team or owner), and television interviews at tailgates (another common occurrence at sporting events). While I won't waste your time getting into the specifics of each individual assault on our freedom of speech, I do wish to point out how these policies reflect on the NFL. As a league that exists to unite the country (one game, one set of rules, forging new human bonds, uniting perfect strangers) this message of intolerance stands in stark contrast to the NFL vision. By remaining silent on the Redskins, you are directly supporting the oppression of your clients (and undermining your own revenues). Burke said that “all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing”, to that end, I beseech you act now; withdraw your support of the Redskins’ restrictive policies by issuing a league wide rule that ensures the freedom of speech at all NFL games.

Thanks in advance,
XXX XXX

[1] [url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/]washingtonpost.com - nation, world, technology and Washington area news and headlines[/url] wp-dyn/content/article/2009/ 10/28/AR2009102804589.html
Your T-Shirts Are Okay With FedExField. Also, Lots Of Mike Wise and Dave Donovan
D.C. Sports Bog - By The Washington Post's Dan Steinberg

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This whole thing is a huge mess. Sounds like Detroit but 10X worst.

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The recent bans on signs, clothing, and now media interviews are knee jerk reactions to the current climate of things surrounding the team. If criticism and vitriol flying at The Danny were not at an all time highg and reaching critical mass, we would have no bans.
Banning signs I can see, and quite honestly do not have a problem with such a policy. My problem is with their explanation about fan safety and sight lines to the field being the reasons for the ban. Its just a flat out lie and everyone in the free world who has been watching this train wreck knows it. The Danny simply does not want signs and banner that are critical of him to be displayed in his stadium. So ban all signs, including the ones that express love and support for the team and/or troops serving overseas. I get it, just stop lying to me.
The t-shirt thing is ridiculous in my opinion. For years people have been wearing F*** Dallas shirts or Dallas Sucks & Philly Swallows shirts, or Calvin & Hobbes urinating on the Dallas Star, etc. None of these were found offensive because none of them criticized or ridiculed The Danny. Again, stop lying to me and just admit why you are hassling people with Dumb and Dumber t-shirts.
The media ban is also stupid, and much of it I have to think is directed at Dan Steinberg and his relentless blogging (or bogging, or whatever it is he does). He interviewed me and my friends in the lot after the Chiefs game and quoted us in the post, we had nothing positive to say after that sorry performance. He also was pulling confiscated signs out of the trash and taking pictures so we could all see the what nonsense the front office is pulling. My guess is they hate him and so to get at him, they ban all media from talking to fans in the lot.
In sum, these are desperate, pathetic measures from a desperate, pathetic man who sees his glorious empire crumbling beneath his feet. I love the Redskins, and I love the players (even the ones who suck, because well, they are Redskins). I will continue to watch, I will continue to go the games, and I will continue to watch old youtube videos to remind me why I love this team. I will not support that man any longer, I will not buy gear (or wear it, because it reminds me that i put money in that Jackass's pocket), and I will not spend any money inside the stadium.

Go Skins!

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Lifelong Browns fan and season-ticket holder Mike Randall, aka "Dawg Pound Mike," is encouraging other Cleveland fans to stay away from their seats for the opening kickoff of the Browns' Nov. 16 home game against Baltimore.

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4605603]Fed-up Dawg Pound Cleveland Browns fans plan protest for Nov. 16 game - ESPN[/url]

Now this seems to be a more reasonable way to protest for those like me who already have tickets are not inclined to simply throw money away. Stay out of the seating area for the first 5-10 minutes or so and let that image make a statement.

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[quote=SkinFanatic;618073]Problem is, the Redskins fans that have season tickets are held hostage. I'm not a ticket holder myself, but to use your theater analogy: what if you don't want to see the same thing over and over but if you give up your ticket, you can never get a ticket at that theater again. I feel for the season ticket holders because they've shelled out a ton of money for an inferior product. If they don't go to the game, they've waisted their money. If they scalp their tickets, someone else goes and it doesn't help the cause. If they don't renew their tix, the next guy on the list gets to go. Thing is, the stands still get filled. You're never going to hurt him that way.

I have a gut feeling that this current media/fan barage is going to work. I wouldn't be surprised if DS either makes a drastic move soon (i.e. firing Vinny) or possibly breaking his media silence. Something big is on the horizon.

I've never seen anything like this. [I]Viva la revolucion![/I][/quote]

I don't have season tickets so I'm good. Those of us who don't should not go or purchase any sports wear in regards to the Skins. If we are not going or purchasing products DS will lose money, money he has counted on to pay the players and staff.

For those with season tickets, I know you don't want to give up your tickets, especially if you already paid for them. I was suggesting that those fans ride Metro to eliminate DS capitalizing on their money for parking. I would guess he has to make a certain amount of money from parking in order to pay some of his bills. Lastly I suggested fans eat prior to arriving at the park. If you don't purchase the high priced food then the Venders don't make money and DS does not get a % of their take in order to be allowed to sell in his park.

What I don't know is when you purchase season tickets is your meal included? If so then you fans might as well eat cause you already paid for the meal. If it's not then only spend if you have to, like feeding kids, or drinks-but I would not buy too many drinks. Do they allow you to bring water bottles in? If so find a fountain and refill it instead of paying for water. I know not purchasing beer at a game would almost be taboo but a few games of not having it might make a future of difference.

I still can't help but laugh at people with "Obstructed View" seats. WTF? If I wanted to watch the game on TV I would have stayed at home. Had good food, and not had to worry about a DUI.

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[quote=SBXVII;618285] What I don't know is when you purchase season tickets is your meal included? [/quote]

ROFL. Yeah, Danny includes meals!

I completely agree. I am one of those stuck season ticket holders. I do not give Danny a dime though. You should also know that most of us had to buy the $30-$50 parking pass at the same time as we did the season tickets, so metro makes no difference there. I do not give Danny one nickel on gameday though.

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if it resembles the soviet union, nazi germany, or china we should plan a Coup

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[quote=duetsch215;618302]if it resembles the soviet union, nazi germany, or china we should plan a Coup[/quote]

There you go. We should storm Redskins Park with pitchforks and torches.

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[quote=munny;618300]ROFL. Yeah, Danny includes meals!

I completely agree. I am one of those stuck season ticket holders. I do not give Danny a dime though. You should also know that most of us had to buy the $30-$50 parking pass at the same time as we did the season tickets, so metro makes no difference there. I do not give Danny one nickel on gameday though.[/quote]


Sorry, LOL. Perhaps I'm an idiot. I kept hearing about the meal that came with the tickets and how it was not that great. Even a Co-worker said his family member has season tickets and he gets to use them once and a while, he said they would get a free lunch included; chicken or pork BBQ. He said they would give a bag of chips and a cookie. That's why I asked. Perhaps there's different costs for the meal included.

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I am really starting to wonder if there is indeed some ulterior motive with regards to the madness. Why would an owner go to great lengths to alienate his team's fanbase? You think the bastard is giving the DC fans the big F U before he moves the team to LA? Crazy thought, for sure, but this is over the top ridiculous with what has transpired the past 12 months.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;618319]I am really starting to wonder if there is indeed some ulterior motive with regards to the madness. [B]Why would an owner go to great lengths to alienate his team's fanbase?[/B] You think the bastard is giving the DC fans the big F U before he moves the team to LA? Crazy thought, for sure, but this is over the top ridiculous with what has transpired the past 12 months.[/quote]

That is a good question. My guess, though, is that he is so focused on his own image that he has not the slightest clue that he might be alienating the fan base.