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Ditch the song as far as I'm concerned that died with the name. Time to move on.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1285118]I know very few people that defaulted to the original name, even smaller amount outside of WFT fans. I also don't understand the logic that this is Snyder's game plan. What does he have to gain from a handful of people still calling them the Redskins? It definitely does not add any merchandise revenue any more.[/quote]


Odd when this subject was broached (Usually due to something I was wearing or if I was at a place watching a game) just about everyone I've run across (mainly strangers to me) stated they still call them the Redskins (this included other team fans - especially those from the NFC East).

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[quote=MTK;1285120]Ditch the song as far as I'm concerned that died with the name. Time to move on.[/quote]

Not sure that is entirely accurate - as the name doesn't seem to have died. It may yet depending on what the team decides to settle on.

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The name is officially gone. People can still call them the Redskins, but that's not the name despite how much fuss anyone puts up.

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[quote=MTK;1285124]The name is officially gone. People can still call them the Redskins, but that's not the name despite how much fuss anyone puts up.[/quote]


Well there is no disputing that it is officially gone. But I don't think that makes it dead. It's dejure verus defacto at this point.

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If you want to truly re-brand, you can't hold on to things like the fight song. There needs to be a clean slate with a re-branding.

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[quote=MTK;1285126]If you want to truly re-brand, you can't hold on to things like the fight song. There needs to be a clean slate with a re-branding.[/quote]

And that is the crux of the matter - does the team (ie Snyder) really want to re-brand? BTW What do they do when fans sing the fight song, wear/display Redskins gear etc.?

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[quote=nonniey;1285119]Come on let's be real - those singing in the stands will ignore any rewrites and go with the original.[/quote]

Well .. we changed it from "fight for old dixie" to "dc" but I half agree.
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I think finding something to go with "washington" is difficult. Just seems Washington Warriors is the only halfway decent alternative but it halfway sucks.

DC .. I think is more workable ... yet I cant think of anything cool for DC either. DC Defenders? is that some fringe sports team already?

Idk .. this name thing is so hard as nothing sounds or seems right.

Im just glad they have chosen to do nothing vs rushing a bad name. The red tails? red hogs? red wolves? fuck that

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Im still partial to Red Wolves, along with a howling noise on every first down. But if I have to come up with a totally new name it would be the Washington Wu-Tang. Because Wu-Tang is forever.

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And Im with Matty. Let it go. We already played a whole season without the name Redskins or the fight song. Why are we even still debating whether or not any of it is coming back?

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[quote=punch it in;1285130]And Im with Matty. Let it go. We already played a whole season without the name Redskins or the fight song. Why are we even still debating whether or not any of it is coming back?[/quote]

We're not, We're debating if it ever left. (We agree officially it left, but unofficially .......????? Which goes into the debate on the new name - argument is WFT may be the choice because that would be a wink/nod to the Redskins name).

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[quote=MTK;1285120]Ditch the song as far as I'm concerned that died with the name. Time to move on.[/quote]

This, and this, and this again.
I loved the Redskins, thought it was malarky to make them change.
BUT, they did, and now we should to move forward. WFT is not moving forward, and it's not going back, it's just stuck in nothingness.

Re: Come up with a new name for the Redskins
 

[quote=MTK;1285126]If you want to truly re-brand, you can't hold on to things like the fight song. There needs to be a clean slate with a re-branding.[/quote]

I'd debate that. They've made clear they want connections to the franchise's past, ie the colors are staying, that's not a full clean slate. It's not a new team, it's a new name and identity for this team.

I hear the fact that the fight song with new lyrics could be cringe worthy to some, but I don't know that it absolutely has to go.
It was one of the things fans loved, quite unique in the league, and it could be rebooted to fit many of the fans favorite options.

Again, I hear that some could [I]dislike[/I] it, but I disagree that it's [I]not an option[/I] in a rebranding.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1285136]This, and this, and this again.
I loved the Redskins, thought it was malarky to make them change.
BUT, they did, and now we should to move forward. WFT is not moving forward, and it's not going back, it's just stuck in nothingness.[/quote]

+1

We're already keeping the team colors, that's good enough. New name, new image, new fight song, let's go.

People are still gonna refer to them as the Redskins, but the name is gone in an official capacity. Let's move on and hopefully come up with something badass/inspiring. Ultimately though, the name will be judged on winning. If they change the name and the team still sucks for the next 10-20 years it will be hard to get rid of that association.

The reason I'm not opposed to the name Warriors anymore is because the W-L record will determine how the name is received. Case in point - Golden State Warriors. What do you associate that name with? What comes to mind when you think of that team? 1. Winning. 2. Dominance. 3. Titles. 4. A team that could be missing Steph Curry, or Dray, or Klay, and is still gonna be tough to beat on any given night. The point is - the name itself might not be the most inspiring - but if we associate it with a team that's tough to play on any day and wins more than it loses - it will go over well.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1285138]+1



We're already keeping the team colors, that's good enough. New name, new image, new fight song, let's go.



People are still gonna refer to them as the Redskins, but the name is gone in an official capacity. Let's move on and hopefully come up with something badass/inspiring. Ultimately though, the name will be judged on winning. If they change the name and the team still sucks for the next 10-20 years it will be hard to get rid of that association.



The reason I'm not opposed to the name Warriors anymore is because the W-L record will determine how the name is received. Case in point - Golden State Warriors. What do you associate that name with? What comes to mind when you think of that team? 1. Winning. 2. Dominance. 3. Titles. 4. A team that could be missing Steph Curry, or Dray, or Klay, and is still gonna be tough to beat on any given night. The point is - the name itself might not be the most inspiring - but if we associate it with a team that's tough to play on any day and wins more than it loses - it will go over well.[/QUOTE]This is the hammer hitting the nail on the head. The reason people want to keep the Redskins (other than those damn racists and obstinate grumpy old men) is because of the association to winning in the 80s, where many of us formed that bond watching the Skins kick ass year in and year out.

The hard thing will be when the WFT goes 20 and 0 this year - even I will support keeping WFT because - hell yeah 20-0.

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