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[quote=Beneil (diehard since 87);682909]A true comparison of JC and the CURRENT form of DM is not a collection of all McNabb ever did, but a question of what they did with what they worked with. Can McNabb do better with what Campbell had?

Jason's best receiver, Santana. NcNabb's? DeSean Jackson
Advantage to McNabb. His best receiver is younger, faster, and constantly broke away for 40+ yard gains.

#2 and 3 receivers. Jason had Randel el and two revolving knuckleheads who took turns TRYING to step up. Donovan had Jeremy Maclin and Avant.
Advantage McNabb. Those two guys stepped up whenever needed and made plays.

Celek has more yards and touchdowns than Davis and Cooley combined, but Davis dropped a few that Cooley may have taken to the house. i would say that Cooley and Celek are on the same level if Cooley doesn't have to block all the time and can be used in the passing game. We'll call this a tie.

O-Line... Obviously advantage McNabb. Though not the best at run blocking, they pass blocked with the best of them.

HB!? without Portis, Advantage McNabb. People feared Westbrook and planned a whole week around him. Nobody plans for Betts, ha ha ha! (I'm so glad he's gone)

Coaching staff... bwa ha ha ha ha!!! I wonder who gets the advantage there!?! Zorn... really? HA! The man was a worse coach than he was a quarterback, and that is saying a lot since i think 70 or 80% of his seasons he didn't throw more TDs than INTs. Loser. His playcalling was abysmal and his locker presense was about as strong as that of a back-up kicker. Hip Hip Hooray my @$$.

Offense... McNabb was in a system that he had been in for over a decade. It's a version of the west coast that he's used to get to 5 championships... FIVE!!! Jason was using a crappy version that was easily figured out by opposing defenses and was NOT geared toward him or his existing receiving corps. They didn't even utilize the TE fully until Cooley was hurt. And THAT was mainly Jason saying "Screw these guys, i'd rather watch Fred Davis catch a short one than see Kelly drop a long one.
Advantage McNabb

Now with as good of a tight end, a better coach, better receiving core with a younger and faster star receiver, better pass blocking, better running back, in a familiar/better offense with a better coaching staff... How much better did Donovan do?

Not much.

So, if he was here, how many hits could he have taken? Would he have been around for the saints game? He sucked against them with his better team, but no, Todd Collins probably wouldn've played because McNabb would've been injured again. take a look at how many full seasons he's played in the last few years.

Honestly, How much better did Donovan do in his far better situation than Jason? They almost did the SAME!?!?![/quote]

I couldn't agree more with you man! McNabb is done by week six! Its going to be his ribs! Campbell is going to be so pissed off that he's gone already so we're going to have Rex Grossman step up.....................LOL!

He's going to throw seventeen interceptions by the third quarter! And as if thats not enough he's going to fumble the ball eleven times! Mark my words He's going to be so scared of getting hit that he will just start throwing the ball away.

Teams will like him so much that they will gameplan, not to kill him, but to hit him. Just hard enough to make him fumble or throw it up there.................................Man, I need to get drunk.

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RT @darrellgreen28: My respect for #Redskins is at all time (post Gibbs glory days) high. I believe again. Can't wait to see how it unfolds.

only posting for interest, not agreement.

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[quote=johno;682914]heaven forbid a new regime makes some drastic changes to a squad that went 4-12 in the previous year. :doh:

and the notion that danny is still working with vinny is a double :doh:[/quote]

Well said, I dont understand how people didnt expect the roster not to be completely blown apart. 4-12 campaign and a period before of mass inconsistencies at every position on the field...these guys never won us a thing and were grossly overpaid. Shanny and Bruce are going to want "their guys", so IMO so far, so good. My only hope besides a trade now for JC, icing on the cake would be Portis and that contract to be cut after camp.

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Adam_Schefter

McNabb has 3rd-highest winning percentage among active quarterbacks (83-45-1, .647) behind Manning (119-59, .669) and Brady (88-25, .779).

Re: McNabb a REDSKIN!
 

[quote=johno;682914]heaven forbid a new regime makes some drastic changes to a squad that went 4-12 in the previous year. :doh:

and the notion that danny is still working with vinny is a double :doh:[/quote]

Dude, read my post. I'm not saying that blowing up this team was a bad thing. I just said that adding a veteran quarterback to a team that is rebuilding is a HORRIBLE THING!!! We need those picks to draft lineman and linebackers. We're 3-4 right? We need more linebackers too! This is dumb! And Pathetic! And yes, Vinny orchestrated this deal. I know he did!

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[quote=SBXVII;682912]Yes we offered AH. It was mentioned half way through last nights discussions. Probably around page 20 somewere.[/quote]And don't think that the FO didn't leak that to light a fire under Haynesworth's fat ass. With the moves that the FO is making to win now, he had better report to camp in game shape. His conditioning last season was a disgrace.

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SI_PeterKing

PFT's report that Haynesworth was discussed in Wash-Phil deal is 100 percent true.

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MattBowen41 RT @RickMaese @ESPNRadio980
Following are interested in Jason Campbell: Buffalo, Carolina, Oakland, Jacksonville and unknown team.

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Sheesh, ESPN980 is just obsessed on the fact that AH was dangled on the McNabb trade :doh:

Why do they have to come off as such pricks all the time?

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Let the Campbell wheeling and dealing begin! Campbell has been a class act through and through. I wish him the best of luck wherever he goes, well unless he plays us!

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[quote=Ruhskins;682936]Sheesh, ESPN980 is just obsessed on the fact that AH was dangled on the McNabb trade :doh:

Why do they have to come off as such pricks all the time?[/quote]

Drama sells.

I'm sure other players were discussed too

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[quote=TheSmurfs22;682937]Let the Campbell wheeling and dealing begin! Campbell has been a class act through and through. I wish him the best of luck wherever he goes, well unless he plays us![/quote]

Yeah, Campbell is gone. How long do you think he takes his other team to the superbowl? Rich Gannon, Trent Green, and Brad Johnson....................Now, Jason Campbell. I'm thinking that unkown team is Arizona and its going to take him two years.

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[quote=Mattyk;682939]Drama sells.

I'm sure [B]other players[/B] were discussed too[/quote]

Exactly! Landry was also in the discussions apparently.

I swear, this is why I only listen to Football Today. I think both sports stations are crap in this area.

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[quote=Beemnseven;682922]Anybody else get the sense that this could be similar to the 98-99 season? We sucked in 98, then got a fairly successful veteran in Brad Johnson and won the division.

Different coaching situation obviously, but the QBs aren't all that dissimilar.[/quote]

Well, Shanahan is the best coach in decades we've had not named Joe Gibbs.

We now have 3 RBs who could ALL excel in a shared role, especially under Shanny's offense. We'll pass less than Andy Reid, so McNabb will have less of a responsibility than he's used to. Our D is going to be solid as usual.

We'll definitely be better than the Eagles, who just dismantled their team and have a big question mark with Kolb and no defense.

The Giants are usually in turmoil and that probably won't change. They massively underachieved last season after assembling what looked like the best defensive line in the NFL.

The Cowboys still have Wade Phillips and Tony Romo to choke things away.



Things are looking up for us.

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[quote=Mattyk;682929]Adam_Schefter

McNabb has 3rd-highest winning percentage among active quarterbacks (83-45-1, .647) behind Manning (119-59, .669) and Brady (88-25, .779).[/quote]

And no rings to show for it.