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[quote=WRSK1NS;1138946]Apparently he was paid to say that, I am really disappointed with that. How much money does he need, he's already made and got millions. Kind of came across as cheesy to me.[/quote]

Multiple media outlets are reporting that Budweiser did not pay him anything:
[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14737625/budweiser-delighted-says-peyton-manning-not-paid-shill-brand-sb]Budweiser 'delighted' but says Peyton Manning not paid to shill for brand after SB[/url]

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1138948]I'm with Mooby, to me it clearly looked like it hit the ground, and then moved as he rolled over[/quote]

The ball can touch the ground if he has possession, looked like the ball moved around but I thought he seemed to have control throughout.

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after the hit it touched the ground before the roll, when the defender's helmet was touching the ground, the ball was right next to it. if you don't have control at that point or the ground causes a bounce, i think they'd say it's not a catch.

i thought it was a catch too, but i can see why someone might say otherwise. in the context of that game, i'm not sure it'd really matter though. denver's D showed up looking to stomp face and that was pretty much that.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1138947]I'm sure he will learn from this. Marshall Faulk had a very interesting take on this, which I'm sure no one will care about. He talked about being a young guy, after losing a Super Bowl, and doing the same thing as Cam; and saying that just like he learned from that mistake, Cam will learn from this mistake.[/quote]

The way Cam acted last night epitomizes why folks cant stand the guy. He proves it once again.


Did anyone ask him why he didn't try to get the fumble at his feet? Or folks gonna give him a pass on that too?

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[quote=NC_Skins;1138940]There are a lot of young QBs that have lost big time games like this and they didn't act like he did. It's not easy by any means, but a leader endures it and takes it like a man. Like I said, he has a lot of growing up to do. No passes are giving on stupid shit like this. I seriously doubt you'd see Kirk Cousins doing shit like that.[/quote]

True but everyone matures at different levels. If Cam is ever lucky enough to make it back and he loses another one I doubt you'd see him act the same way. I doubt Captain Kirk would act like that too but we both know Cam and Kirk are two entirely different people and Kirk is clearly the more mature one.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1138947]I'm sure he will learn from this. Marshall Faulk had a very interesting take on this, which I'm sure no one will care about. He talked about being a young guy, after losing a Super Bowl, and doing the same thing as Cam; and saying that just like he learned from that mistake, Cam will learn from this mistake.[/quote]

Marshall Faulk gets it. Imagine working your entire life towards one goal, then getting to the game and you get dominated like that from start to finish. No wonder he was upset.

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You cannot just be a Pro when you win.........
He has to do better than that

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Looking at Cam numbers or what actually matters...he was absolutely horrendous last night:

Cam Newton 18/41 265 6.5 0 1 6-64 16.9 55.4. Rating of 16.9? 2 fumbles as well. 44% completion

wow

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Yeah I thought Faulk was on point too. Cam is a young guy, he's still got some growing up to do but that's ok.

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Newton's a front runner. It's all good when things are going your way and you're dabbing and celebrating every first down. He's a young guy but he's also been in the league for 5 years. Time to grow up, grow some nuts and act like a damn pro. You've got the massive contract, you earned it, now it's time to act like a man when things don't go your way. Instead he acted like a 4 year old who got his toys taken from him.

Denver's offense is putrid. Just downright had to watch. Their defense basically put the team on it's back.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1138962]Newton's a front runner. It's all good when things are going your way and you're dabbing and celebrating every first down. He's a young guy but he's also been in the league for 5 years. Time to grow up, grow some nuts and act like a damn pro. You've got the massive contract, you earned it, now it's time to act like a man when things don't go your way. Instead he acted like a 4 year old who got his toys taken from him.

Denver's offense is putrid. Just downright had to watch. Their defense basically put the team on it's back.[/quote]

Being a "young guy" is a bullshit excuse. That what an apologist says.

Kubiack offense isn't very good nor is Peyton.

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Cam is still young, has alot to learn, including managing a game. Carolina should have won that game. I like him alot, but he does act like a baby sometimes.

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[quote=Evilgrin;1138964]Cam is still young, has alot to learn, including managing a game. Carolina should have won that game. I like him alot, but he does act like a baby sometimes.[/quote]

No , the better team won the game .Peyton was a game manager last night ,so what?Denver won with a defense that was mostly the best ever in a super bowl and Carolina played like shit ,no they should not have won,not even close.

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I'll be honest, I can tolerate Cam as long as he doesn't reach Aqib Talib's age and is still acting like that. After last night I think Talib is a straight idiot, he would have gotten my vote for LVP if such a thing existed with how terrible he was last night. Giving up catches, all the personal fouls, and after the SB he was being loud and obnoxious like he won the damn thing himself.

I think Cam is just taking all this heat because he plays quarterback. If he was a wide receiver dabbing and having fun everybody would probably let it go, but since he's a qb and people expect qb to be these mature, professional at all times leaders nobody likes it that he acts like one of the guys.

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Von Miller is a game changer.

Congrats to Ware for getting a ring. he had an amazing AFC champ game.

Congrats to Wade, it looked like Cam just couldnt see the field, didnt trust his eyes/playcall and the pressure got to him.

cam's post game walk off - i imagine its hard to sit there and have to answer questions when your mind is probably racing through a ton of thoughts and replays, etc. apparently you could clearly hear a broncos corner saying they game planned to force Cam to throw the ball ..... in that moment, that was probably too much for an emotional guy like Cam to handle.

i think its dumb to force the losing players to answer questions so soon after. i think its dumb to have Peyton doing a on-field interview the second the game ends.

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Eli's look when Peyton basically iced the game: Priceless.

[url]http://www.buzzfeed.com/krystieyandoli/eli-manning-looked-less-than-thrilled-about-his-brother-winn?bftw&utm_term=.pu3n3PKBan#.oeKDBQ9nvD[/url]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1138970]Eli's look when Peyton basically iced the game: Priceless.

[url]http://www.buzzfeed.com/krystieyandoli/eli-manning-looked-less-than-thrilled-about-his-brother-winn?bftw&utm_term=.pu3n3PKBan#.oeKDBQ9nvD[/url]

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He had that one thing his brother didn't...lolololololol

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My teammates knew what it was,” Talib said. “He was on the 3-yard line. (With) a personal foul, he was on the 1 1/2-yard line, so it is what it is.”

Read more at: [url=http://nesn.com/2016/02/aqib-talib-committed-facemask-on-purpose-first-personal-foul-was-b-s/]Aqib Talib Committed Facemask ‘On Purpose’; First Personal Foul ‘Was B.S.’ | Super Bowl | NESN.com[/url]

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The NFL may need to consider placing the ball at the 1 yard line for PF committed within 10-15 yards of the goal line. It seems like players dont mind taking a cheap shot when they know the penalty will just be a few yards. the Danny Amendola hit in the AFC Champ game comes to mind as well.

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Cam is 26 and will be 27 in a few months. Do not use the "young" excuse for a 27 year old man. He is immature for his age and that was evident in the post game press conference. He puts the bulls eye on himself.

On the tired subject of the offenses were terrible in the Super Bowl: Don't sell the the Broncos and Carolina's defenses short, they are really that good.
Tom Brady and "one the best offenses (Patriots coaching staff) in the NFL" could not beat Denver's defense. Why is it that hard to grasp that Carolina's offense could not do any better? Tell me, what current offense, Qb or teams game plan in the entire NFL at this time would have done better against Denver's defense yesterday if Patriots could not beat them? Who is heads and shoulders better offensively at this time?
I get tired of hearing the arm chair offensive guru's out there that think if they ran a different game plan/offense the other team would have won. No. Denver's defense is that good that they beat the best current offenses in the NFL. Period. Some times that happens.

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[quote=Defensewins;1138973]Cam is 26 and will be 27 in a few months. Do not use the "young" excuse for a 27 year old man. He is immature for his age and that was evident in the post game press conference. He puts the bulls eye on himself.

On the tired subject of the offenses were terrible in the Super Bowl: Don't sell the the Broncos and Carolina's defenses short, they are really that good.
Tom Brady and "one the best offenses (Patriots coaching staff) in the NFL" could not beat Denver's defense. Why is it that hard to grasp that Carolina's offense could not do any better? Tell me, what current offense, Qb or teams game plan in the entire NFL at this time would have done better against Denver's defense yesterday if Patriots could not beat them? Who is heads and shoulders better offensively at this time?
I get tired of hearing the arm chair offensive guru's out there that think if they ran a different game plan/offense the other team would have won. No. Denver's defense is that good that they beat the best current offenses in the NFL. Period. Some times that happens.[/quote]

agree and your name says it all. Denver's CB are insanely great and the LB's Marshall and Trevathen can cover TEs and Running Backs out the backfield.

I know we arent big players ...but I really wouldn't mind one of Denver's Free Agent LBs.

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Mark Schelereth called this a super bowl defense before the season started and boy was he right.

Considering the era and just how anemic Broncos offense was, man what an impressive year and historic accomplishment by that broncos D #nasty

To do that with an offense that stalls that much is insane.

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Cam acted like a petulant child -- pure and simple. I won't deny that it must be a searing experience to suffer a loss like that in front of 200 million people, but get a grip and show some class. Being a world-class athlete and living in the spotlight also means the potential for moments like that -- it goes with the territory.

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If he didnt shake hands w broncos players or congratulate Peyton, I think that would be classless.

If he said the panthers should have won and were the better team, that would be classless imo. I dont think him saying "they didnt do anything special" crosses the line bc denver didnt do anything special.

I saw a young emotional guy a few minutes after losing the biggest game of his life, just trying to come to grips with things.

He could have apologized and said his emotions are just too raw right now and he will answer every question tomorrow or after he has some time to reflect with his teammates and family.

he didnt pull a richard sherman.

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[quote=over the mountain;1138979]If he didnt shake hands w broncos players or congratulate Peyton, I think that would be classless.

If he said the panthers should have won and were the better team, that would be classless imo. I dont think him saying "they didnt do anything special" crosses the line bc denver didnt do anything special.

I saw a young emotional guy a few minutes after losing the biggest game of his life, just trying to come to grips with things.

He could have apologized and said his emotions are just too raw right now and he will answer every question tomorrow or after he has some time to reflect with his teammates and family.

he didnt pull a richard sherman.[/quote]

True, he just needs to grow up some more. Right now he's a front runner. When the going is good then Cam is fine. But when he has some adversity thrown his way, he's got a major attitude problem.

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I think people are being a little too hard and nasty on ol' Superman. You guys just wait until your kitty cat is stuck in a tree and the fire department won't come out to help ya! You'll be callin' ol' Sup! Seriously, sure, Cam could have handled himself a little different. Then again, I don't think his post-game presser was that bad. I'm more concerned about what he was thinking on that fumble than anything else.

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[url=http://deadspin.com/aqib-talib-admits-he-tried-to-rip-corey-browns-head-off-1758007923]Aqib Talib Admits He Tried To Rip Corey Brown's Head Off On Purpose[/url]

any argument against a half season suspension for talib?

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[quote=Chico23231;1139012][url=http://deadspin.com/aqib-talib-admits-he-tried-to-rip-corey-browns-head-off-1758007923]Aqib Talib Admits He Tried To Rip Corey Brown's Head Off On Purpose[/url]

any argument against a half season suspension for talib?[/quote]

A half a year is too soft! The dude is dirty! I'm glad we didn't go after him when he was available.

Honestly, I think personal foul penalties committed that close to the goal line should be an automatic TD, or at least some sort of score. Half a distance penalty in this case wound up being 1 1/2 yard penalty. Pretty much a free dirty shot!

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[quote=Chico23231;1139012][url=http://deadspin.com/aqib-talib-admits-he-tried-to-rip-corey-browns-head-off-1758007923]Aqib Talib Admits He Tried To Rip Corey Brown's Head Off On Purpose[/url]

any argument against a half season suspension for talib?[/quote]

In NFL Network, right after the game, he said he did it to prevent the TD. I think a lot of people will do this, so the rule that Goodell proposed (two PF's and you're ejected) makes sense.

However, my issue with that rule is how subjective refs are with QB hits and helmet-to-helmet hits.

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[quote=metalskins;1139011]i think people are being a little too hard and nasty on ol' superman. You guys just wait until your kitty cat is stuck in a tree and the fire department won't come out to help ya! You'll be callin' ol' sup! Seriously, sure, cam could have handled himself a little different. Then again, i don't think his post-game presser was that bad. I'm more concerned about what he was thinking on that fumble than anything else.[/quote]sulk sad. Why everyone ask sulk questions????
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I get that he was pissed. And I agree with Lombardi -- "Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser" (a quote that Cam made earlier today, as I understand it).

Having said all that, there's a difference between being pissed about the loss and not being OK with it, and acting as he did. And I don't care about the celebration in the background upsetting him either. You got beat. Badly. Deal with it. Be a man.

I have found Cam annoying all season (I hate the showboating -- maybe I am old school, but I miss Riggo and how when he used to score, he'd hand the ball to the refs). But the Superman nonsense? The dabbing? STFU and play football.

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I call bullshit.....

[url=http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/54705/Eli-Manning-explains-his-blank-look-during-Super-Bowl/Default.aspx]Eli Manning explains his blank look during Super Bowl[/url]

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[quote=calia;1139017]I get that he was pissed. And I agree with Lombardi -- "Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser" (a quote that Cam made earlier today, as I understand it).

Having said all that, there's a difference between being pissed about the loss and not being OK with it, and acting as he did. And I don't care about the celebration in the background upsetting him either. You got beat. Badly. Deal with it. Be a man.

I have found Cam annoying all season (I hate the showboating -- maybe I am old school, but I miss Riggo and how when he used to score, he'd hand the ball to the refs). But the Superman nonsense? The dabbing? [B]STFU and play football.[/B][/quote]

He did play football, his team went 16-2.

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1139019]He did play football, his team went 16-2.[/QUOTE]


Seriously, his play speaks for itself.

The other stuff is for the drama queens to get all worked up about.

I think at times we forget these guys play a GAME for a living. It's supposed to be fun.

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[quote=calia;1139017]I get that he was pissed. And I agree with Lombardi -- "Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser" (a quote that Cam made earlier today, as I understand it).

Having said all that, there's a difference between being pissed about the loss and not being OK with it, and acting as he did. And I don't care about the celebration in the background upsetting him either. You got beat. Badly. Deal with it. Be a man.

I have found Cam annoying all season (I hate the showboating -- maybe I am old school, but I miss Riggo and how when he used to score, he'd hand the ball to the refs). But the Superman nonsense? The dabbing? STFU and play football.[/quote]

Well, for one thing, there's more than just guys born in the 1940's watching pro football. There's children of all ages, young people of all ages, and the celebrating is as much a part of the game as the field goals in their eyes. I personally think people should lighten up and not get so butt hurt over Cam Netwon (not referring to you Calia, just a general statement to the masses.) He dabs. He does his Superman thing. Who cares? Ickey Woods did his Ickey shuffle. The Fun Bunch did their group high five in the end zone. Some of the older Cowgirl receivers used to do their silly little six-shooter celebration in the endzone. Dez does his X-factor thing. You have some players who are low-key, others want to be seen. Such as in life. And of the most part, ol' Fig Newton has backed it up with a solid year. He's a good player.

I mean, maybe the fans should just do golf claps when their team scores instead of yelling and screaming and doing chest bumps? Sounds silly, right? Why not let the guys have fun? And come on, I'd be pretty bummed too if I just lost the Super Bowl. Unless your name is Tom Brady, who's to say your next chance to get back into the big show is within another year or so?

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[B]@josephperson

As for not diving on the fumble, Cam says he would've had to contort his his leg in a certain angle to do so. ...thereby risking injury[/B]


:doh:


This is a HUGE problem for Cam. I can't believe this idiot actually told people this. No way in fuck would I ever want this clown on my team. He's no leader. You have a guy out there playing with a broke arm, and another with a broke foot and this pussy won't dive on a ball for fear of being injured? In the god damn Super Bowl at that.



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[quote=NC_Skins;1139026][B]@josephperson

As for not diving on the fumble, Cam says he would've had to contort his his leg in a certain angle to do so. ...thereby risking injury[/B]

:doh:

This is a HUGE problem for Cam. I can't believe this idiot actually told people this. No way in fuck would I ever want this clown on my team. He's no leader. You have a guy out there playing with a broke arm, and another with a broke foot and this pussy won't dive on a ball for fear of being injured? In the god damn Super Bowl at that. [/quote]

You're complaining about a guy that pretty much plays as his team's second running back and takes a TON of hits, in a league that protects QBs? Just let it go man.

:doh:

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[quote=metalskins;1139023]Well, for one thing, there's more than just guys born in the 1940's watching pro football. There's children of all ages, young people of all ages, and the celebrating is as much a part of the game as the field goals in their eyes. I personally think people should lighten up and not get so butt hurt over Cam Netwon (not referring to you Calia, just a general statement to the masses.) He dabs. He does his Superman thing. Who cares? Ickey Woods did his Ickey shuffle. The Fun Bunch did their group high five in the end zone. Some of the older Cowgirl receivers used to do their silly little six-shooter celebration in the endzone. Dez does his X-factor thing. You have some players who are low-key, others want to be seen. Such as in life. And of the most part, ol' Fig Newton has backed it up with a solid year. He's a good player.

I mean, maybe the fans should just do golf claps when their team scores instead of yelling and screaming and doing chest bumps? Sounds silly, right? Why not let the guys have fun? And come on, I'd be pretty bummed too if I just lost the Super Bowl. Unless your name is Tom Brady, who's to say your next chance to get back into the big show is within another year or so?[/quote]

I don't disagree with this post. I just thought the sulking was pretty pathetic, and coming off a season of showboating, it was inevitable that it would irk folks (admittedly, myself included).

I also don't disagree that Cam was lights out this year (and I will bet he continues to play well for years to come -- he's an uncommon talent). And I do think there's a difference between some of the endzone celebrations (e.g., the Fun Bunch which was a group celebration or Alfo Mo swinging for the fences as a nod to the little league team that supported him during his first training camp v. Cam's stuff). But no need to debate the relative merits of different celebrations, I think. I'll just say I would have been a lot more impressed with him had he angrily said during the post-game conference, "We got beat, but we're better than what we showed today. And I'm pissed. And I am going to use this as motivation to have an even better season in 2016" before storming out. But the monosyllabic and monotone responses were just lame.

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[quote=calia;1139028]I don't disagree with this post. I just thought the sulking was pretty pathetic, and coming off a season of showboating, it was inevitable that it would irk folks (admittedly, myself included).

I also don't disagree that Cam was lights out this year (and I will bet he continues to play well for years to come -- he's an uncommon talent). And I do think there's a difference between some of the endzone celebrations (e.g., the Fun Bunch which was a group celebration or Alfo Mo swinging for the fences as a nod to the little league team that supported him during his first training camp v. Cam's stuff). But no need to debate the relative merits of different celebrations, I think. I'll just say I would have been a lot more impressed with him had he angrily said during the post-game conference, "We got beat, but we're better than what we showed today. And I'm pissed. And I am going to use this as motivation to have an even better season in 2016" before storming out. But the monosyllabic and monotone responses were just lame.[/quote]

Do you really care?

My life is no different.

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I'd be curious to see how many people were passionately upset when Peyton walked off the field after he lost to the Saints in 2010's Super Bowl.

I'm not condoning what Cam did, it was very disappointing to see what he did. Hopefully he'll learn from this. But people are acting like he literally told everyone to f*ck off in the presser.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1139030]I'd be curious to see how many people were passionately upset when Peyton walked off the field after he lost to the Saints in 2010's Super Bowl.

I'm not condoning what Cam did, it was very disappointing to see what he did. Hopefully he'll learn from this. But people are acting like he literally told everyone to f*ck off in the presser.[/quote]

I don't care about the dancing or the celebrating with Cam...that's who he is. No problem what so ever.

Did you watch the presser? "fuck off" was clearly the message. He wasn't responsible for a thing in his eyes. He had a chance to compose himself and act like a professional...clearly he isn't.

He has a chance to be face of the NFL....clearly failed in his first attempt with 1) his play...god awful, bottom 10 performances by a QB in a SB and 2) Handling the spotlight after the game.


Manning is a good example, but Belicheat & Brady leaving early after 2008 SB is my favorite "NO CLASS" moment