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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1137570]Chip Kelly to SF:

[url=http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/49ers-announce-chip-kelly-head-coach/]49ers announce Chip Kelly as head coach | CSN Bay Area[/url][/quote]

That is just shocking to me. I can't believe he is getting another shot this fast after his last disaster.

Maybe he connects to players better on the left coast. Things worked for him in Oregon.

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[quote=Bangee7;1137615]That is just shocking to me. I can't believe he is getting another shot this fast after his last disaster.

Maybe he connects to players better on the left coast. Things worked for him in Oregon.[/quote]

It doesn't surprise me he got another shot at coaching in the NFL. He has been saying all the right things.

He did not have a lot of interaction with the players at Oregon. Most of his staff handle the player issues. I do not know if its true, but i think i read he had asperger's syndrome or something similar. This is why he doesn't relate to a lot of the players.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1137611]Did his time here ruin him as a HC? Is that why no one will hire him?[/quote]

I don't think his time with Redskins is the reason. I think it has more to do with his failing to win a playoff game since 1999.

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[quote=OmahaRedskins;1137618]I don't think his time with Redskins is the reason. I think it has more to do with his failing to win a playoff game since 1999.[/quote]

and age.


btw, kelly failed himself into a $24m contract. holy hell. i guess i need to go and completely wreck a team if i want to make it big.

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meanwhile philly is down to option #4 or 5 now...

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Any NFL owner is gonna think twice about a HC that wants total control BUT at the same time is a bad GM.
They'll also worry about a HC that readily spoke to and leaked in house information to the media and not to mention accepted no blame for his piss poor W/L record despite having total control.

Yeah, i can see why owners are hesitant...again.
Owners aren't gonna easily forget/dismiss his behavior in his final year here.

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[url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/redskinsblog/former-redskins-d-coordinator-jim-haslett-lands-job-bengals?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo]Former Redskins D-coordinator Jim Haslett lands job with Bengals | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url]

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Titans hire mularkey. He's 18-39 as a HC

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Maybe one of these new coaches will be a standout, but it sure seems like it's a less than stellar group of new HC's. I'm not complaining with 2 of them going to the NFC East.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1137753]Maybe one of these new coaches will be a standout, but it sure seems like it's a less than stellar group of new HC's. I'm not complaining with 2 of them going to the NFC East.[/quote]


So you think it will be a cake walk in the east for the Skins?

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[quote=Giantone;1137780]So you think it will be a cake walk in the east for the Skins?[/quote]

Ha...is it ever a cakewalk for anyone? Honestly every team has a chance, this division doesnt have a strong, dominating team.

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[quote=Giantone;1137780]So you think it will be a cake walk in the east for the Skins?[/quote]

I think the Eagles are the new Redskins of the 90s and 2000s. Incompetently run, ravaged in the depth department, no answer at QB.. They'll struggle.

Giants were very close to being good this year, many many games came down to last minute. I think they will make some moves on defense and be competitive. But they won't build towards championship caliber again until Reese starts making some better draft picks.

Dallas is the one I'm most concerned about. A healthy Romo and Bryant instantly put them back in the competitive category. And they have a top pick that could net them a very good trench player.

But the Redskins have by far the best GM in McCloughan. The rookie class he is about to select will make another impact like the class did this year. And this year's class will make huge strides going into year two. Junior Gallette returns to make it a premiere pass rush.

Not a cake walk, but the second of many consecutive division titles. This team is on the rise and is being built to stay on top, with a genuine QB leading it all.

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It won't be a cakewalk at all because it's the nfc east but the skins will be favorites at the beginning of the season and they should be. Young talented team that is only getting better. This isn't like the 2012 roster as we've said a bunch here. We have a true offense now and passer.

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[quote=Giantone;1137780]So you think it will be a cake walk in the east for the Skins?[/quote]


[IMG]http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/1627569/cast-bait-o.gif[/IMG]

Anyone? Anyone? "I'm just asking questions."

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1137729]Titans hire mularkey. He's 18-39 as a HC[/quote]

2-7 as an interim coach last year. Maybe Amy Adams Strunk and Dean Spanos have a personal bet on who can ruin a team quicker or something.

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[quote=Giantone;1137780]So you think it will be a cake walk in the east for the Skins?[/quote]

I think the Redskins have the inside track on the NFC East next year.

Skins: They are not the most talented team, but they play well together. They have a young QB, developing O-line, and the best front office in the NCL East. In the last two years, they have drafted ten starters. If they can draft three starters this year, 25% of their core will be under three years. That is how you build a team for long-term success.

Here is my take on the rest of the division.

Giants: There are more things wrong with the Giants than Tom Coughlin. They have the best QB in the division but have only made it to the playoffs twice since 2008. In QB driven league, you have a top tier QB, top ten skill player, and you can't make the playoffs in 6 years? I think you have issues with leadership on the team and in the front office.

Eagles: No QB and dumpster fire. It will take a GOOD GM 2 - 3 years to recover from CK experiment.

Cowboys: The Cowboys have the most talent in the NFC East, but they do have their warts. They have Jerruh Jones as a GM, no leadership, and an ageing QB that is one hit away from retirement. They have a great O-line and some excellent skill players.

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[quote=Chico23231;1137781]Ha...is it ever a cakewalk for anyone? Honestly every team has a chance, this division doesnt have a strong, dominating team.[/quote]


This is exactly where I was headed but I do think the division is better than others give it credit for.

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[quote=Giantone;1137780]So you think it will be a cake walk in the east for the Skins?[/quote]

I didn't say that. My post's implication was that none of the new HC's appear to be world beaters.

As for our division:
Garrett is 40-40 over 5 years, and isn't likely to be a HOF'er in any sense of the word.

Pederson's last head coaching job (2005-2008) was the Calvary Baptist Academy. I'm thinking that the competition at the NFL level is just a little more difficult.

McAdoo has never been a head coach at ANY level. I guess that's a good thing right?


Do I think we will roll, no, but I do think we have a solid GM for the first time in Snyder's ownership, a HC who has won championships at a semi pro level, and shown progression in the NFL, and have a young promising qb.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1137848]I didn't say that. My post's implication was that none of the new HC's appear to be world beaters.

As for our division:
Garrett is 40-40 over 5 years, and isn't likely to be a HOF'er in any sense of the word.

Pederson's last head coaching job (2005-2008) was the Calvary Baptist Academy. I'm thinking that the competition at the NFL level is just a little more difficult.

McAdoo has never been a head coach at ANY level. I guess that's a good thing right?


Do I think we will roll, no, but I do think we have a solid GM for the first time in Snyder's ownership, a HC who has won championships at a semi pro level, and shown progression in the NFL, and have a young promising qb.[/quote]

Garrett is banking on Romo,to me a dumb bet.

Pederson's been with Andy Reid a hell of a long time and anyone is better the Chip Kelly.Philly's D was not half bad.

McAdoo you're 100% right about but Bill Parcells was a head coach at the Air Force Academy one season pretty sure that didn't help for the NFL.Can he do as well only if Reese does his job well.All so he does have a ring so that can't hurt.

Gruden is still a question.(I like him) but was this a one time thing or can he do it all the time?These are not shots but legitimate questions about all the coaches in the NFC East.

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[quote=Giantone;1137852]Garrett is banking on Romo,to me a dumb bet.

Pederson's been with Andy Reid a hell of a long time and anyone is better the Chip Kelly.Philly's D was not half bad.

McAdoo you're 100% right about but Bill Parcells was a head coach at the Air Force Academy one season pretty sure that didn't help for the NFL.Can he do as well only if Reese does his job well.All so he does have a ring so that can't hurt.

Gruden is still a question.(I like him) but was this a one time thing or can he do it all the time?These are not shots but legitimate questions about all the coaches in the NFC East.[/quote]

Which was my point about the hires. I'm glad that neither team that was looking for a HC brought in someone who is clearly head and shoulders above an NFL average HC. Could McAdoo/Pederson be the next big thing sure, but if so, there's not a lick of track record to show it.

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It has become pretty obvious that NFL owners basically have no idea how to hire a good head coach. Pittsburg probably does it the best. Hire a guy and stuck with him basically forever. Cincy too...but they're mostly just too cheap to fire and pay two guys at once.

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Joe Gibbs was a "who the hell is that?" hire with no HC experience and only 3 years of OC experience.

You never know what is going to happen.

I would be most likely to bet on the 49ers not recovering for a while though....

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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports the Eagles are interviewing Jim Schwartz for their open defensive coordinator position Tuesday.

It would be a surprise at this point if Schwartz is not named the defensive coordinator, with an announcement coming perhaps as early as Tuesday afternoon. Schwartz was not in the league last season, but he led a dominant Bills defense in 2014. One point of concern could be the transition to Schwartz's 4-3 base scheme, but the personnel department will make the switch work if Schwartz is who new coach Doug Pederson wants.

Really bad news for us. Guy is proven...looks like we could be bitten twice by him

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philly's roster is still bad, so they'd have to fix that first.

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Schwartz is a good hire for Philly. It seemed like their defense had some talent, particularly in the front seven and, IMHO, it seemed the D was just being forced to overcome an inept and unproductive offense (although I could be remembering it wrong).

However, this is a team with deep problems and, even if the D is competitive, I don't see that offense going anywhere anytime soon.

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[url=http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/report_mike_shanahan_did_not_want_colin_kaepernick/s1_127_20214076]Report: Mike Shanahan did not want Colin Kaepernick | Yardbarker.com[/url]

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1138008]Schwartz is a good hire for Philly. It seemed like their defense had some talent, particularly in the front seven and, IMHO, it seemed the D was just being forced to overcome an inept and unproductive offense (although I could be remembering it wrong).

However, this is a team with deep problems and, even if the D is competitive, I don't see that offense going anywhere anytime soon.[/quote]


Maybe but this team(eagles) got alot better real quick.

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That is a great hire for Philly. Honestly puts them back at the head of the NFC East even with an unproven head coach. The defense will keep them in every game.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1138105]That is a great hire for Philly. Honestly puts them back at the head of the NFC East even with an unproven head coach. The defense will keep them in every game.[/quote]

We have 3 DC's, Barry, Fewell and Manusky. I say we have the edge.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1138110]We have 3 DC's, Barry, Fewell and Manusky. I say we have the edge.[/quote]


Not exactly how it works.:laughing-

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[quote=Giantone;1138112]Not exactly how it works.:laughing-[/quote]

I know that, but 3 guys with DC experience that can collaborate with each other gives you an edge.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1138113]I know that, but 3 guys with DC experience that can collaborate with each other gives you an edge.[/quote]

I'm not sure that's a good thing, each guy probably has his own style and there could be friction if the assistants recommend ideas and Barry ignores them. I don't have a problem having 3 quality guys on the staff, but they best know their roles.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1138100][url=http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/report_mike_shanahan_did_not_want_colin_kaepernick/s1_127_20214076]Report: Mike Shanahan did not want Colin Kaepernick | Yardbarker.com[/url][/quote]



Not surprised by this one bit.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1138100][url=http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/report_mike_shanahan_did_not_want_colin_kaepernick/s1_127_20214076]Report: Mike Shanahan did not want Colin Kaepernick | Yardbarker.com[/url][/quote]I find it hard to believe.

Mike wants desperately to coach again. I've heard enough Mike pressers to think he is willing to say anything. And if all it would've taken to get a National Football League Head Coaching job again was to say...~'Yeah, I can make it work with Kaep.' I fully believe, whether Mike actually wanted/intended to make it work with Kaep, that he would absolutely [I]say[/I] that he would. Then he could do whatever the heck he wanted once he got the job. (Ring any bells? lol)

And I'm not sure I buy the idea that Mike wouldn't want Kaep. Mike completely retooled his offense for Griffin and it worked wonders. Mike used to rave about how the zone-read with the QB run threat created a decisive advantage over the defense. And the numbers don't lie. Rookie or not the numbers that offense put up was phenomenal. From all the rumors here Mike [I]wanted[/I] to [I][B]continue[/B][/I] that style offense.

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Yeah I think it's more sour grapes from Shanahan. Why go through an interview this year and last if you know you don't want the QB they have? Whatever Mike.

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Kap is a total mess and was outplayed by Gabbert. lol. I wouldn't want him either. He has no leadership skills, he can't run a pro offense, his mechanics are shot, sound familiar? Can't blame Shanahan one bit. He's already been there done that.

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[quote=FRPLG;1137885]It has become pretty obvious that NFL owners basically have no idea how to hire a good head coach.[/quote]

True. In their defense, I must say that most of them know how to run off good head coaches.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/01/21/the-49ers-relationship-with-kaepernick-becomes-even-more-bizarre/]The 49ers’ relationship with Kaepernick becomes even more bizarre | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Does Chip Kelly have a mental illness? What the hell is he talking about? This is why he has problems with people...he's effin weird

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I think Kap will stay in SF. and they'll bring in competition. It's not like there's going to be a lot better out on the street. Maybe Griffin ends up there as well.

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Chip Kelly doesnt know his crotch from a cranberry.