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I just want to see the QB situation resolved.

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Griffin took 18 snaps:

[url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2015/8/14/9151315/snap-judgments-redskins-browns-snap-counts]Snap Judgments: Redskins @ Browns Snap Counts - Hogs Haven[/url]

Aaron Rodgers took 33 snaps:

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=400791766&period=1]Green Bay Packers vs. New England Patriots - Play By Play - August 13, 2015 - ESPN[/url]

I first heard this comparison on the radio.

If developing Griffin is the goal, why was his play limited to 18 snaps (and only 8 passes) compared to Rodgers' 33 snaps?

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Who says what Green Bay does is the benchmark?

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Regardless of what GB does, and not sure where I saw it, but last year had one of the lowest snap counts of any starter during preseason. I am betting if look around the league, most starters had more than eight attempts and 18 snaps. I could be wrong.

Regardless, the kid needs the work.

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Man. You guys make up some of the craziest shit. If all Redskin fans believe a little bit of gossip and make it truth like some of you do. Well, it's no wonder our fan base is full of extremists.

RG3 has never conflicting to coaches teachings. No reporter has ever reported that as FACT. It's all hear say and propaganda.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1116529]Griffin took 18 snaps:

[url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2015/8/14/9151315/snap-judgments-redskins-browns-snap-counts]Snap Judgments: Redskins @ Browns Snap Counts - Hogs Haven[/url]

Aaron Rodgers took 33 snaps:

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=400791766&period=1]Green Bay Packers vs. New England Patriots - Play By Play - August 13, 2015 - ESPN[/url]

I first heard this comparison on the radio.

If developing Griffin is the goal, why was his play limited to 18 snaps (and only 8 passes) compared to Rodgers' 33 snaps?[/quote]

Thats what I've been saying since Griff got here! I do not understand the mentality of not playing someone who needs the practice in preseason.Its like no coach is afraid to change because if someone gets hurt then the media will roast them.

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Agree, would love to see the first team get practice -- although admittedly this is the most the starters have done since

And Rodgers - honestly I'm not sure it's smart to play your franchise QB that much -- Rodgers usually gets hit a lot out there. But whatever they want..

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Deja vu.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1116518][url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/18957/redskins-mailbag-what-it-would-take-to-start-kirk-cousins]Washington Redskins mailbag: What it would take to start Kirk Cousins - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]

Watching them play, and watching the plays called, it is clear that a different game is being called when KC is QB. It is also obvious (to me) that he is much more decisive than RGIII, that the drop is right, and that the ball comes out on time. Which is great, except he often, very decisively, throws an interception, and then another, and another, and so on.[/quote]Yeah I noticed the difference in playcalling. We aren't the only ones who noticed the difference there was an post game article that made mention (hogshaven?) of the difference. But who knows what the reasons are there could be many. *Shrugs* Its only the first preseason game plenty of time to get Griff reps with the play concepts that Cousins ran.

I do agree that 100% Griffin should have got more reps. I don't really care what other people around the league are doing. I only care about what makes sense for this team; and it makes sense to get Griffin more reps.

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Rodgers, Bortles, and Bridgewater are the only starting QBs in the top 25 for pass attempts so far

[url=http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&season=2015&seasonType=PRE&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-p=1&statisticCategory=PASSING&conference=null&d-447263-s=PASSING_ATTEMPTS]NFL Stats: by Player Category[/url]

Starters usually get the quick hook in the first game, if they play at all, let's see how the rest of the preseason goes.

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Really like the extra effort after practice with Pierre:

[url]https://twitter.com/hardlyworkin950/status/633033978782597120[/url]

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[quote=30gut;1116577]Yeah I noticed the difference in playcalling. We aren't the only ones who noticed the difference there was an post game article that made mention (hogshaven?) of the difference. But who knows what the reasons are there could be many. *Shrugs* Its only the first preseason game plenty of time to get Griff reps with the play concepts that Cousins ran.

I do agree that 100% Griffin should have got more reps. I don't really care what other people around the league are doing. I only care about what makes sense for this team; and it makes sense to get Griffin more reps.[/quote]

I'm going out on a limb here. Play calling was different because they need to work on RG3 weakness. Throwing from the pocket and situational downs.

I'm sure we will see read option passes and rollout sin real games

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[url=http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/washington-redskins-robert-griffin-iii-rg3-banned-from-talking-to-media-081815]Washington Redskins ban Robert Griffin III from talking to media after his 'best QB' comments | FOX Sports[/url]
:doh:

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[url=http://realredskins.com/2015/08/18/reaction-to-out-of-context-rg3-quote-is-over-the-top/]Reaction to out of context RG3 quote is over the top | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url]

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I can careless if the quote was out of context. He should know by now that everything that he says will be twisted and turned into a controversy. Yes just not getting it.

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[quote=redskinsfan1980;1116724]I can careless if the quote was out of context. He should know by now that everything that he says will be twisted and turned into a controversy. Yes just not getting it.[/quote]

Then why care?

If he goes out and gives Belicheck type answers, he will be criticized (as was shown by his "waiting for San Fran" press conference). If he were to pull a Marshawn Lynch he would be criticized for that. If he gives a truthful answer, he will be criticized. Why care?

You want him to give specific answers. But if he does give the exact answer you want to hear, he will be criticized. It will be parsed til hell freezes over and whatever context is needed to create a controversy, it will be given using that context, even if everyone knows it was taken out of context. So knowing that... again... Why care?

I still have not figured out why so much is made over a twitter response by someone who gets paid to create a controversy if one is not immediately available for them to report on.

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This is the one problem I had with his answer.


[quote]“I know I’m the best quarterback on this team."[/quote]

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/express/wp/2015/08/18/rgiiis-brash-comments-could-isolate-him-more-in-the-redskins-locker-room/]RGIII’s brash comments could isolate him more in the Redskins’ locker room - The Washington Post[/url]


It's one thing to say I feel that I'm the best. To say he "knows" he's the best QB on the team isn't going to sit well with other teammates that KNOW he's not the best and see his glaring mistakes day in and day out on the field and in the film room. Let's be honest. The ONLY reason Robert is starting is because of Snyder. He isn't a very good communicator, and yes much of what he says gets overblown to say the least. I really don't think he's realistic about his game in the NFL. In his mind, he's on one universe, the reality has him somewhere completely different.



In the end, people are tired of hearing how good Robert is from Robert. We want to see those words backed up by play, which he hasn't done since 2012.

[url=http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/08/robert-griffin-iiii-rg3-quotes-washington-redsking-apology-starting-preseason-best-quarterback-nfl]Robert Griffin III acts like an egomaniac with no self-awareness | For The Win[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk;1116723][url=http://realredskins.com/2015/08/18/reaction-to-out-of-context-rg3-quote-is-over-the-top/]Reaction to out of context RG3 quote is over the top | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url][/quote]

While i wholeheartedly agree, he should know better by now.

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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1116734]This is the one problem I had with his answer.









[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/express/wp/2015/08/18/rgiiis-brash-comments-could-isolate-him-more-in-the-redskins-locker-room/]RGIII’s brash comments could isolate him more in the Redskins’ locker room - The Washington Post[/url]





It's one thing to say I feel that I'm the best. To say he "knows" he's the best QB on the team isn't going to sit well with other teammates that KNOW he's not the best and see his glaring mistakes day in and day out on the field and in the film room. Let's be honest. The ONLY reason Robert is starting is because of Snyder. He isn't a very good communicator, and yes much of what he says gets overblown to say the least. I really don't think he's realistic about his game in the NFL. In his mind, he's on one universe, the reality has him somewhere completely different.







In the end, people are tired of hearing how good Robert is from Robert. We want to see those words backed up by play, which he hasn't done since 2012.



[url=http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/08/robert-griffin-iiii-rg3-quotes-washington-redsking-apology-starting-preseason-best-quarterback-nfl]Robert Griffin III acts like an egomaniac with no self-awareness | For The Win[/url][/QUOTE]


Could not agree more. Actually just completely sick of this guy at this point. Sick of hearing excuses about his play and his mouth too for that matter.

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I think the reaction to RG3s comments are so ridiculous. He said nothing inappropriate. In my work, even as a young unproven professional who has made some mistakes, if I do not project a confidence that I am striving to be the best and know that I can be, and that I am the right person in my organization for my position there would be repercussions:

1. People would be gunning for my job, or under mining me to make themselves look better.

2. My bosses would question my ability if I wasn't confident.

3. Most importantly, with all the crap I receive on a daily basis, I could not handle the pressure and my lack of confidence would hurt my performance.

Dude was saying something pretty mundane, and admitting he needed to prove himself. If he does, awesome. If he doesn't, oh well, good riddance, but not projecting confidence would not make that easier.

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[quote=WillH;1116738] He said nothing inappropriate. .[/quote]

I think saying you know you are the best QB on the team is borderline inappropriate. Saying you feel you are the best is one thing, saying you know you are the best is another. Like I said earlier, he's only going to alienate his teammates even further. They all know he's starting the QB position without earning it. He's gifted that starting position due to what they paid for him. Everybody else on the team had to earn their spot. How do you think that's going to sit with players when you say shit like that KNOWING the only reason you are starting is due to the owner?

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This last "little" thing is just the icing on the cake, but at this point after two years of nothing but injuries and inept play tone down the uber confidence just a tad. People dont want to here it they want to see it. After a while the talking becomes comical.

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[quote=WillH;1116738]I think the reaction to RG3s comments are so ridiculous. He said nothing inappropriate. In my work, even as a young unproven professional who has made some mistakes, if I do not project a confidence that I am striving to be the best and know that I can be, and that I am the right person in my organization for my position there would be repercussions:

1. People would be gunning for my job, or under mining me to make themselves look better.

2. My bosses would question my ability if I wasn't confident.

3. Most importantly, with all the crap I receive on a daily basis, I could not handle the pressure and my lack of confidence would hurt my performance.

Dude was saying something pretty mundane, and admitting he needed to prove himself. If he does, awesome. If he doesn't, oh well, good riddance, but not projecting confidence would not make that easier.[/quote]

I think the comment + his track record + his history of mouthing off = blown out of portion. Take any of those variables out of the equation and it is a non-story.

Robert should look to his backfield on how to handle the media, where ALFMO said I agree I am not elite but I am working hard to become elite.

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People at my work do say they are the best...and when they DO make a mistake, the rest of the workforce let's them know. They are also much less likely to get help from the other guys that bust their ass and don't make the same type of comments. No matter what their context.

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[QUOTE=mredskins;1116741]I think the comment + his track record + his history of mouthing off = blown out of portion. Take any of those variables out of the equation and it is a non-story.

Robert should look to his backfield on how to handle the media, where ALFMO said I agree I am not elite but I am working hard to become elite.[/QUOTE]


Exactly this isnt just about him saying he knows he is the best. This is about everything that has happened since 2012. The only thing blown out of proportion is his ego.

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Plus, when they go on and on but don't back up their words....it turns into a running joke on the floor.


Just sayin

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[quote=Bucket;1116594]I'm going out on a limb here. Play calling was different because they need to work on RG3 weakness. Throwing from the pocket and situational downs.

I'm sure we will see read option passes and rollout sin real games[/quote]*Shrugs* Your speculation about the play calling could be right, who knows? I can think of a bunch of reasons, it could be as simple as Jay-McVay are evaluating ~45ish players and are looking for specific situations to put on film from Scherff to Moses to Matt Jones to Roberts etc.

Still, I would like to see Robert get more reps with similar play concepts that Kirk had in the Browns game. Who knows maybe we'll see them tomorrow night?

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As far as how Robert's comments are received, I can only speak for myself. I have become deaf to what he says. I only want to see what he does on the field in the regular season. If he performs well, then I'll be happy.

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Given Griffin's history he's not getting the benefit of the doubt on this. He chooses his words poorly for a 4th year player. All he had to say was, " I strive to be the best QB in the league." That's all he had to say. He needs more humble pie in the worst way.

I think reality will set in once the real games start. You can't hide your QB once the real games start.

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[quote=30gut;1116746]*Shrugs* Your speculation about the play calling could be right, who knows? I can think of a bunch of reasons, it could be as simple as Jay-McVay are evaluating ~45ish players and are looking for specific situations to put on film from Scherff to Moses to Matt Jones to Roberts etc.

Still, I would like to see Robert get more reps with similar play concepts that Kirk had in the Browns game. Who knows maybe we'll see them tomorrow night?[/quote]

30, whats you opinion of Scherff and Moses on the right so far? What I saw in camp...Moses was holding his own against the Houston players

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[quote=skinsfan69;1116750]I think reality will set in once the real games start..[/quote]


Reality isn't going to set in for him until he's cut and borderline out of the NFL. He will not get a starting gig on another team (not running a read option offense) playing like he does. That much is pretty much guaranteed. So with that in mind, the days of him having to actually earn that position is what is either going to humble him or cause him to fold like a cheap tent. Who knows, he may just continue to blame others to why his failure is happening instead of looking in the mirror and putting in the mental work that goes along with being a QB.

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The whole thing is just dumb. Anyone who read or heard the entire clip knows exactly what he was saying.

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[quote=Mattyk;1116756]The whole thing is just dumb. Anyone who read or heard the entire clip knows exactly what he was saying.[/quote]

That's a given. The only issue with it like I said is the "I'm the best QB on the team." That isn't going to sit well with teammates. I don't see how it's been 4 years and he still can't grasp how to talk to the media yet. Is it blown out of proportion? Absolutely, as will anything he says. Which is why it's so imperative that he really thinks about the words he's using.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1116754]Reality isn't going to set in for him until he's cut and borderline out of the NFL. He will not get a starting gig on another team (not running a read option offense) playing like he does. That much is pretty much guaranteed. So with that in mind, the days of him having to actually earn that position is what is either going to humble him or cause him to fold like a cheap tent. Who knows, he may just continue to blame others to why his failure is happening instead of looking in the mirror and [B]putting in the mental work that goes along with being a QB[/B].[/quote]

Yeah, that was the explanation of his failures last year that kept coming up. I have not heard anything about what kind of work he was doing to improve in that way this year. Does anyone know or is there any reason to believe he has taken any of that criticism to heart, or made attempts to address that area of his skill set?

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im a fully in the camp that thinks RG3 has brought a lot of his problems on himself on and off the field .... but i have no problem with what he said.

if you listen to the actual clip it is just generic pro athlete stuff.

if you are looking for further validation that this guy just doesnt get it and is uncoachable, you have more fodder for your fire.

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[quote=Chico23231;1116751]30, whats you opinion of Scherff and Moses on the right so far? What I saw in camp...Moses was holding his own against the Houston players[/quote]It was nice to see the RG not only hold his ground but move the line of scrimmage and effectively get to the second level.
On the whole they looked solid, much better then last year already (but then again I wondered why Moses wasn't playing RT last year).

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[quote=Mattyk;1116756]The whole thing is just dumb. Anyone who read or heard the entire clip knows exactly what he was saying.[/quote]

Agree. An old PGA golf pro I took lessons from often told me that athletes at any level have to "create their own reality". RG3 is creating his own reality and I dont know why anyone would have a problem with that.

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[quote=irish;1116790]Agree. An old PGA golf pro I took lessons from often told me that athletes at any level have to "create their own reality". RG3 is creating his own reality and I dont know why anyone would have a problem with that.[/quote]

Problem is RG3's reality only exists in fantasy land. He is starting to appear delusional, you cannot help or coach someone who doesn't think they have a problem, plain and simple. Kind of like if you are running a business and have an employee who is lacking and needs improvement yet that employee thinks they
are the slickest thing since sliced bread and is smarter than the owner.

RG3 is saying things Tom Brady is too humble to say. Robert appears to
be intelligent, but some of the crap that comes out of his mouth makes you wonder.

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We need to move on from this some people will never like RG3 for whatever reason. By all accounts he's putting in the work.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1116791]Problem is RG3's reality only exists in fantasy land. He is starting to appear delusional, you cannot help or coach someone who doesn't think they have a problem, plain and simple. Kind of like if you are running a business and have an employee who is lacking and needs improvement yet that employee thinks they
are the slickest thing since sliced bread and is smarter than the owner.

RG3 is saying things Tom Brady is too humble to say. Robert appears to
be intelligent, but some of the crap that comes out of his mouth makes you wonder.[/quote]

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Tom Brady humble? :lol: