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[quote=Schneed10;1103621]Garcon's not going anywhere because the McCloughan hire is a clear pivot towards the draft as the source of talent for this team. And since they have $20M in cap space for free agents already, and because they won't be looking to free agency for a huge talent bonanza, they won't feel the pressure to clear additional cap space by cutting Garcon.

He's very safe.[/quote]

Do you think this means we see a TW extension this year?

Also, here's pretty good write up on the Skins team situation from overthecap.com:

[url=http://overthecap.com/redskins-2015-salary-cap-outlook/]Redskins 2015 Salary Cap Outlook - Over the Cap[/url]

for example:
[quote]Free Agents to Let Walk
Almost all of them…Washington continues to be one of the worst constructed teams in the NFL and they can help fix that by turning the roster over and rebuilding. [/quote]

McCloughan has a job cut out for him.

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the OTC article is junk. trade desean, force garcon to take a pay cut, cut bowen.

i mean, creating cap space is great and all, but if your team is worse off for it, or has to spend more money to replace those players, what's the point?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1103711]Do you think this means we see a TW extension this year?
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if we want to make some room, kerrigan and TW extensions would probably be option 1 and 1A.

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[quote=That Guy;1103715]the OTC article is junk. trade desean, force garcon to take a pay cut, cut bowen.

i mean, creating cap space is great and all, but if your team is worse off for it, or has to spend more money to replace those players, what's the point?[/quote]

I absolutely missed the trade DJax, that's simply crazy talk.

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Not sure I disagree with cutting Bowen. He hasn't exactly been an impact player. And his cap number seels high for what he brings to us.

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really happy to hear that this deal is finalized. Honestly, I haven't been this fired up since Gibbs 2.0.

I remember the Beathard/Gibbs days...Bobby built the team and Joe coached the players.

They did not always see eye to eye, but the results spoke for themselves.

I would love for those glory days to start returning soon!

I know one thing for sure, we will get a better roster in no time flat.

Hail!

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One thing I never considered was getting a RT in FA... Hmmmm...

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[quote=That Guy;1103715]the OTC article is junk. trade desean, force garcon to take a pay cut, cut bowen.

i mean, creating cap space is great and all, but if your team is worse off for it, or has to spend more money to replace those players, what's the point?[/quote]

Fair enough. The interesting part of the article to me involved the graphs. Why do we pay more than league average for both our OL and our DL yet regularly get beaten up front?

And, as for safety, obviously sometimes you get what you pay for.

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No one is signed past the 2017 season, woah. This roster will be flipped in no time.

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[quote=drew54;1103724]No one is signed past the 2017 season, woah. This roster will be flipped on no time.[/quote]

That is an incredible number...

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Time will tell how this pans out and it will take time and patience.

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I am imagining the initial meeting with Scot and Bruce.

Bruce: "OK, here's where we are with our FAs, contracts, etc. We have a ton of $ tied up on our O-line and D-line, but we need to revamp them entirely. Sorry about that. Our best players probably need to have their contracts re-done, because they're pretty brutal in 2015. But don't worry -- I can handle that piece, and the silver lining? We don't have many of those guys. Wait, did I say not having more than a few real stars is a good thing? Hahahah. I guess that's your problem now -- good for me in negotiating contracts though."

Scot: [Stunned silence; reaches for a brewski....]

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What I want to know is who the hell gave this move an F? Did Bruce just join or something?

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[quote=calia;1103728]I am imagining the initial meeting with Scot and Bruce.

Bruce: "OK, here's where we are with our FAs, contracts, etc. We have a ton of $ tied up on our O-line and D-line, but we need to revamp them entirely. Sorry about that. Our best players probably need to have their contracts re-done, because they're pretty brutal in 2015. But don't worry -- I can handle that piece, and the silver lining? We don't have many of those guys. Wait, did I say not having more than a few real stars is a good thing? Hahahah. I guess that's your problem now -- good for me in negotiating contracts though."

Scot: [Stunned silence; reaches for a brewski....][/quote]

If there is a Warpath post of the day award, I would most definitely present it to you for damn near making me spit out beer all over my keyboard...

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[quote=Fiversons;1103729]What I want to know is who the hell gave this move an F? Did Bruce just join or something?[/quote]

If he did, he'd probably bow out quickly given the comments in here.

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[quote=Fiversons;1103730]If there is a Warpath post of the day award, I would most definitely present it to you for damn near making me spit out beer all over my keyboard...[/quote]

You're very kind. Sad truth is, this conversation could actually have happened.

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[quote=calia;1103732]You're very kind. Sad truth is, this conversation could actually have happened.[/quote]

One of my good friends, who was also cursed a Redskin fan by birth basically told him when we hire Scot something similar... I really do have more faith by this move than I have had in a long time.... I do hope this organization doesn't drive him to the sauce...

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[quote=Giantone;1103699]Congrats , so would he be #3 on the "richter scale" ?:)[/quote]

Yes, yes he is.

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How did they.....when did they.....what.....Is this real life?

GREATEST DAY EVAR!!!

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[quote=Fiversons;1103734]One of my good friends, who was also cursed a Redskin fan by birth basically told him when we hire Scot something similar... I really do have more faith by this move than I have had in a long time.... I do hope this organization doesn't drive him to the sauce...[/quote]

Agreed. If he performs nearly as well as he did in Seattle and SF, this may be one of the most significant developments in te franchise in decades. The guy is a real talent and could help get us on the right path. I am hopeful it all works out well.

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[quote=calia;1103718]Not sure I disagree with cutting Bowen. He hasn't exactly been an impact player. And his cap number seels high for what he brings to us.[/quote]

Yes. Cutting Bowen would clear $5.5M in space. He is as good as gone, especially since Haslett won't be here to go to bat for him.

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I hope Scot's first 2 FA signings are Mike Iupati and Ahmad Brooks. Iupati will fill a huge hole in the OL and Brooks can replace Orakpo.

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Relevant on so many levels
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Doubt he does much in FA that isn't cheap signings, this roster is way far away from spending much in FA.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1103739]I hope Scot's first 2 FA signings are Mike Iupati and Ahmad Brooks. Iupati will fill a huge hole in the OL and Brooks can replace Orakpo.[/quote]

I'd take Iupati over Brooks. Brooks is kind of washed up isn't he? He took himself out of a game cause he wasn't happy with his playing time and has had numerous off field issues. To me he's too much of a risk. Iupati is a road grader but SF really struggled in protecting Kap. He's obviously an upgrade over anything we have at guard.

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Let's just hope that the fan base & management gives him a couple of years to right the ship.
It did not get into this mess in one year so it will take longer than one year to straighten out. For the record, I 100% approve of this move!

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[quote=Jayroc24;1103746]Let's just hope that the fan base & management gives him a couple of years to right the ship.
It did not get into this mess in one year so it will take longer than one year to straighten out. For the record, I 100% approve of this move![/quote]

I couldn't agree more. I have been saying for awhile that this organization has been being broken for 20 years and it could take over 5 years to fix. This team is in total rebuild mode but management will never come out and say it for fear of scaring off the few remaining ticket buying fans they have.

SM doesn't need to spend money on over-priced FAs, he need to get as many draft picks as he can get so this team can start down the road of drafting and developing players like all successful NFL teams do. SM has a huge and very difficult job ahead.

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I gave it a "Wait and C"

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The million dolla question is what McC thinks of RG3, anyone have an info on his predraft thoughts on RG3?

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It is really odd how low level news this is to like ESPN and SI....I have to like hunt for it on their web sites.

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[quote=NM Redskin;1103765]The million dolla question is what McC thinks of RG3, anyone have an info on his predraft thoughts on RG3?[/quote]

During that draft, I heard McC was high on Cousins.

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Just thought about this, but one thing that could ruin this offseason for me is if the Cowboys win the Super Bowl. For some reason I think they beat GB based on more BS. It's bad enough where I live once that bandwagon gets rolling, but if they actually WON one, that would create more generational Cowboys fans.

Everyone loves a winner. :P

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1103769]Just thought about this, but one thing that could ruin this offseason for me is if the Cowboys win the Super Bowl. For some reason I think they beat GB based on more BS. It's bad enough where I live once that bandwagon gets rolling, but if they actually WON one, that would create more generational Cowboys fans.

Everyone loves a winner. :P[/quote]If the super bowl ends up being dallas vs. baltimore my football fandom will be in serious jeopardy.

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We have to understand that while it seemed as if it took no time for McCloughan to revamp the Seahawks, do remember that their first year back into the playoffs, they still had a losing record. If not for a crappy division, they would not have seemed so improved. While it seemed as if the Seahawks became good overnight, there was a since of slow and steady, and there was some major changes in roster during the progress.

I'm saying that to say that it's going to take McCloughan a while to bring in the right guys. He may still need to bring in the right head coach. This is a situation where progress is going to have to be shown in other ways rather than the record in the beginning, because I don't see this being a quick turnaround - but I do see McCloughan turning this team around as long as he is given a chance. But us fans need to be patient with him. He may make some moves that we're not necessarily "fans" of, but in the end, winds up being the best move for the franchise. It's going to be an interesting next four years guys. I definitely feel we have something to look forward to!

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;1103771]If the super bowl ends up being dallas vs. baltimore my football fandom will be in serious jeopardy.[/quote]

I would have to root for Baltimore, but I loathe either team.

If Carolina gets knocked out this weekend, I'll probably wind up rooting for New England, as crazy as that sounds. Might as well see Tom Brady get one more ring before he retires.

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[quote=mredskins;1103767]It is really odd how low level news this is to like ESPN and SI....I have to like hunt for it on their web sites.[/quote]

It is low level on ESPN and the NFL Network because nothing is official yet, after the press conference to introduce him is over they will give it plenty of attention.

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[quote=irish;1103763]I couldn't agree more. I have been saying for awhile that this organization has been being broken for 20 years and it could take over 5 years to fix. This team is in total rebuild mode but [B]management will never come out and say it for fear of scaring off the few remaining ticket buying fans they have.[/B]

SM doesn't need to spend money on over-priced FAs, he need to get as many draft picks as he can get so this team can start down the road of drafting and developing players like all successful NFL teams do. SM has a huge and very difficult job ahead.[/quote]
can you blame them for that?
Just intelligent marketing.............or bait and switch depending how you look at it

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Things can be headed in the right direction in 2-3 years I think. Over 5 years is an eternity in this league.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1103745]I'd take Iupati over Brooks. Brooks is kind of washed up isn't he? He took himself out of a game cause he wasn't happy with his playing time and has had numerous off field issues. To me he's too much of a risk. Iupati is a road grader but SF really struggled in protecting Kap. He's obviously an upgrade over anything we have at guard.[/quote]

Brooks lost playing time to rookie Aaron Lynch who was as good as Aldon Smith, he came into camp heavier than usual. Brooks can still play, he started losing weight abd will be motivated after year. He was pissed at Tomsula for giving Lynch more playing time. On the OL issues their RT was out most of the year (played 6 games) lost 2 C and Boone held out and came in rusty. Iupati lost some games to concussion, but was the most consistent OL.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1103768]During that draft, I heard McC was high on Cousins.[/QUOTE]


Gruden still likes him too so it's doubtful they move him.