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[quote=CRedskinsRule;715646]I guess I'm not buying the Shanahan would have failed him no matter what either. BUT, nor was he going to pass him just because he got 21Mill in Apr. Shanahan laid out a standard. Was it nit picky on purpose, yes. But the point is made, both to AH, and to the rest of the team, that there is a stated standard of execution and excellence that [U]everybody[/U] must meet to be considered a Washington Redskin.
For the players that showed up all off-season, they see that it paid off, both physically and in terms of team esprit de corps; and for AH, it should get him acclimated to Shanahan's bottomline.

I tend to believe that AH felt he did so well on the first that he proved himself, but the rules of the breaks were just guidelines. I am guessing he sees that slightly differently now.[/quote]


Good post. There is a new sheriff in town and AH needs to man up or get out.

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Big Al failed again this morning

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[quote=SmootSmack;715649]Big Al failed again this morning[/quote]

Really? Wow, does that mean they are going to hold him out of practice again? This is really discomforting...If he is in such great shape, it shouldn't be too difficult to pass a conditioning test should it?

Any other details other than just the fact that he failed SS?

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:mad::confused::(:cussing::doh::Flush::benched:

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[quote=davy;715653]:mad::confused::(:cussing::doh::Flush::benched:[/quote]

Exactly!

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The theory about him not showing up to mandatory mini camp because he was out of shape is not looking so silly now is it? Sure, he got with his trainer to lose some lbs but it is obvious that he hasn't been doing it long enough based on his lack of conditioning.

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Looks like AH is getting the Montrae Holland treatment:
[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=lc-haynesworth072910]Redskins' Haynesworth crossed the wrong guy - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

If so, a trade might not be far away, given the precedent.

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[quote=SmootSmack;715649]Big Al failed again this morning[/quote]

Haha...try Wheaties, Al...your peanut butter brownie sundae breakfast diet isn't working.



(to be fair, he HAS lost weight, but his motivation went with it)



[quote=Lotus;715659]Looks like AH is getting the Montrae Holland treatment:
[URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=lc-haynesworth072910"]Redskins' Haynesworth crossed the wrong guy - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/URL]

If so, a trade might not be far away, given the precedent.[/quote]


I love how Shanahan is like an Army drill sergeant. I bet Owens would be failing some tests too if he came in with an arrogant attitude.

The other guys watching this happen to Haynesworth are going to work very hard to stay in line all year I bet. He's making an example out of AH, but is probably solidifying the rest of the team in the process. He's an evil genius.


This is awesome:
[quote]
[I]So he was banished to a solo workout on a treadmill on Thursday as the rest of the team practiced outside. Later, after practice was over and the fans were heading toward their cars, he was dragged out for a scramble around trash cans on a far-off field. When he was done he was forced to jog a gauntlet of fans, past the media and back into the safety of the locker room.[/I]

[I]Predictably, he did not speak to anyone during his walk of shame.[/I]
[/quote]

Either Al will be leaving shortly, or Shanahan will break him down and force him into a weak position where all he can do is get in line and quietly abide by the rules to avoid any more public humiliation. Shanahan's not going to be the one to back down in this situation.

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[B]BREAKING:[/B] Albert Haynesworth won't be practicing today, per 106.7 Fan.

He didn't pass this morning's workout after running about 15 minutes in sprints. Shanny wasn't on the field working him out, it was Jim Haslett. Apparently Fat Al went then to his car, but no one knows if he actually left or he's still there.

D.R.A.M.A.

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Grant Paulsen said that someone who saw the test said that AH did not seem gassed, and they were surprised that he didn't pass. I don't get it. Also, it sounded like Haslett administered the test not MS. But this was all second hand info on 106.7 the fan...

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[quote=rbanerjee23;715652]Really? Wow, does that mean they are going to hold him out of practice again? This is really discomforting...If he is in such great shape, it shouldn't be too difficult to pass a conditioning test should it?

Any other details other than just the fact that he failed SS?[/quote]

I mean it's hard to expect the guy to just pop in in-shape enough this morning, this is going to take a few days probably. Al needs to be in the weight/cardio area instead of his car though.

at 50 yards per interval it's hard to even call it a true shuttle... 600 yards is a THIRD of a mile, with a break halfway through

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;715662]Grant Paulsen said that someone who saw the test said that AH did not seem gassed, and they were surprised that he didn't pass. I don't get it. Also, it sounded like Haslett administered the test not MS. But this was all second hand info on 106.7 the fan...[/quote]

maybe he didn't do it fast enough? or they tried to tell him the test wasn't over and he bailed

let the rumor mill spin!

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[quote=Angry;715658]The theory about him not showing up to mandatory mini camp because he was out of shape is not looking so silly now is it? Sure, he got with his trainer to lose some lbs but it is obvious that he hasn't been doing it long enough based on his lack of conditioning.[/quote]

I wonder how many 300 pounders on the team that went through all the off-season workouts could actually pass the test. Twelve 50yd. sprints non-stop for a man his size is a lot of running.

Had Haynesworth easily passed the test, his teammates could wonder why they put in all the effort. I do wonder why cardeo and running was not a part of his own individual work program considering the fact that was his area of weakness last year.

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One thing's for sure, the Redskins aren't concerned about the media perception around this. But you have to figure this is making the rest of the team a tighter group and respect Shanny for the message he's sending out there.

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[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Practice_Report__Day_2_of_Training_Camp_132891.jsp]Practice Report: Day 2 of Training Camp[/url]

[QUOTE]-- 8:45 a.m. ET
Haynesworth Update

Just checked the practice fields and No. 92 – Albert Haynesworth – is not working with the defensive linemen.

I went inside the facility and saw Haynesworth working on the treadmill alongside strength and conditioning coach Ray Wright.

Certainly, head coach Mike Shanahan will address Haynesworth’s status after practice.
[/QUOTE]

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This is what this organization needed for a long time! A coaching staff that won't put up with cry baby star players. I am loving shanny more and more as our head coach. Big AL just needs to go away or suck it up and bust his $100 million dollar ass!

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Wow...to be perfectly honest, this might be a real blessing in disguise for the Redskins. By making AH accountable for his absence but giving him a chance, however tough, to prove himself, Shanahan is really strengthening his position as the undisputed head of this team. Can you imagine Zorn having the stones to do this to AH?

I am so excited for this coming season :woot:

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So what's the over/under on how many days it's going to take before he "passes" the test. 3, 4?

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I'm going with 3. Don't think this will last 4 days.

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[quote=Mattyk;715678]So what's the over/under on how many days it's going to take before he "passes" the test. 3, 4?[/quote]

Yesterday, Shanahan said he'll have to do it until he passes. Until he passes he will not be permitted to practice with the rest of the team. Now, exactly what that means for the long term is anybody's guess.

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[quote=12thMan;715679]I'm going with 3. Don't think this will last 4 days.[/quote]

So a guess the person, can't remember who it was, that said they saw him on his boat out on the lake in Tennessee almost every day during the off season was dead on...

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[quote=Mattyk;715678]So what's the over/under on how many days it's going to take before he "passes" the test. 3, 4?[/quote]

I say 8 days. Then, we won't hear a peep from AH all year out of fearing the treadmill.

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I'm guessing Sunday at the latest.

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[quote=SkinzWin;715683]So a guess the person, can't remember who it was, that said they saw him on his boat out on the lake in Tennessee almost every day during the off season was dead on...[/quote]

somebody that knew somebody on ES, so take it with a block of salt

it's obvious he's done work, just wasn't prepared for this

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whoops wrong thread

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granthpaulsen

Spoke to someone who saw 92's conditioning test: Several sprints of approx. 50yds, didn't seem to be laboring. Jim Haslett monitored him.

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I think tomorrow he'll pass. I honestly think Shannahan is just doing this to make a point.... and I think the point has been proven at this point. I mean I could be wrong, I dont know what actually goes into these tests; but I still think he seems a tad excessive for a linemen. Whatever though, this is what I want out of a head coach when it comes to players like this.

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[URL="http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/An-inside-look-at-the-NFL-conditioning-tests.html"]An inside look at the NFL conditioning tests | National Football Post[/URL]

Good read from Matt Bowen who says this 300 yard shuttle is nothing out of the ordinary.

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[quote=Gmanc711;715699]I think tomorrow he'll pass. I honestly think Shannahan is just doing this to make a point.... and I think the point has been proven at this point. I mean I could be wrong, I dont know what actually goes into these tests; but I still think he seems a tad excessive for a linemen. Whatever though, this is what I want out of a head coach when it comes to players like this.[/quote]

NOTHING is excessive for Haynesworth's money.

If Shanahan asks him to dump a jar of honey onto his torso and head to the bear den at the National Zoo...it's a small task for that contract amount.

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I have to applaud Mike S. for laying down the damn law. As someone else said this is exactly what this team needs. The drama queens had better get in line. There is still a price to pay for putting yourself above the team.

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[quote=Gmanc711;715699]I think tomorrow he'll pass. I honestly think Shannahan is just doing this to make a point.... and I think the point has been proven at this point. I mean I could be wrong, I dont know what actually goes into these tests; but I still think he seems a tad excessive for a linemen. Whatever though, this is what I want out of a head coach when it comes to players like this.[/quote]
Russellmania09

Some very unique team backside running pursuit drills. now we see why Shanahan wants Al to do the test. #Redskins

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[quote=SkinzWin;715683]So a guess the person, can't remember who it was, that said they saw him on his boat out on the lake in Tennessee almost every day during the off season was dead on...[/quote]

If that were the case, his weight would have gone UP, not down.

I do believe AH worked hard with his personal trainer...but that's not exactly the same as football drills with his teammates. He could be in shape...just not football shape.

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I just think this is getting childish.

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[quote=Mattyk;715707][URL="http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/An-inside-look-at-the-NFL-conditioning-tests.html"]An inside look at the NFL conditioning tests | National Football Post[/URL]

Good read from Matt Bowen who says this 300 yard shuttle is nothing out of the ordinary.[/quote]
It really isn't. We had to do this crap for high school sports before and/or after practices.

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Rich_Campbell

RT @RedskinsDotCom Albert is working in weight room during Fri. practice...Running on treadmill alongside conditioning coach Ray Wright.

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I don't see any downside to this for Shanahan and the Redskins.

For one, Shanny's endearing the team and fans to himself by doing this. Secondly, Albert has zero room to stomp off the field and risk being suspended or fined, but on the other hand Albert can start rehabing his image by playing along and showing he's willing to do what it takes.

As far as the so called media circus and this being a distraction, eh..I don't think Shanahan cares a hill of beans about that. He's mroe concerned about the guys inside the locker room, not the ones outside the locker room.

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[quote=Mechanix544;715715]I just think this is getting childish.[/quote]

so you just let him off of the requirement?

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[quote=Mattyk;715719]Rich_Campbell

RT @RedskinsDotCom Albert is working in weight room during Fri. practice...Running on treadmill alongside conditioning coach Ray Wright.[/quote]

Angry got you beat by about 45 mins on that one haha

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I tell you what's childish and unprofessional, taking a direct deposit for $21 million, taking your fat ass home, and about a month later skip mandatory workouts, then request a trade because you don't want to play nose tackle. Now that's childish and unprofessional if you ask me.

Oh, I heard Haynesworth rolls up to practice in his Bentley yesterday. Real classy.

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[quote=12thMan;715723]I don't see any downside to this for Shanahan and the Redskins.

For one, Shanny's endearing the team and fans to himself by doing this. Secondly, Albert has zero room to stomp off the field and risk being suspended or fined, but on the other hand Albert can start rehabing his image by playing along and showing he's willing to do what it takes.

As far as the so called media circus and this being a distraction, eh..I don't think Shanahan cares a hill of beans about that. He's mroe concerned about the guys inside the locker room, not the ones outside the locker room.[/quote]

It's a complete downer and continues to overshadow the good feeling we want to have going into the season. I wish there was a way for this saga to quickly be resolved so we can concentrate more on what's really important.