Re: Don Imus
 

[quote=saden1;297835]I don't feel there has to be a national figure. I think a lot of people in local communities are doing good things and they are the ones that really matter. There are a lot of good people in the NAACP who do good work. Real ministers in church do good work.

What the black community doesn't need is a loud mouth polarizing figure but we don't get to choose who appears on TV, the media does.[/quote]

I followed your last couple of posts on black leadership or lack thereof, and I couldn't agree more.

I think it's unfortunate that many think Sharpton and Jackson are the face and voice of the black community. It just so happens that the media finds a level of 'comfort' and familiarity with these two.

I don't think there is currently a clear-cut African-American voice or face, so to speak, for a few reasons. There are African-Americans in Congress and the Senate, but they represent a larger base than just blacks, so they have walk a fine line in what they say and "who they represent". So there's a political thread that runs through their motivation; Neither Sharpton nor Jackson hold a political office.

Another thing to consider is that the black community is more diverse, more educated, and in many ways more successful than, let's say, 30 years ago. So when one says "the black community", exactly what segment of the black community are they speaking to? It's not clear cut as it was during the 60s. And that's why Imus' comments and the people that have responded and called for his resignation is more complicated than just 'racist' comments.

Certainly blacks still face social ills, but they're not the same Civil Rights issues as we know them. And this is why any media attention that Sharpton and Jackson constantly get can be so damaging. They are by and large still considered and perceived to be Civil Rights activists, and whenever they speak on the behalf of blacks, it's seen as some type of injustice that's linked to and remind people of the the struggle of the 60s.

Their voices are a constant reminder of how things "used to be", where "we aren't". They really don't speak to the future or progress.

Re: Don Imus
 

[QUOTE=RobH4413;297734]Don't know if anyone is familiar with "Soul Position" but they're a semi underground hip-hop duo (Blueprint and RJD2) from Columbus, Ohio that I've enjoyed for quite some time.

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Yes yes and yes!

Re: Don Imus
 

[quote=FRPLG;297636]100% PURE WHOOP ASS

I am going to ignore the basic idiocy of the content of your posts because they are so out of line that any reasonable person, black or white or whatever, would just shake their head and move on.

But I will ask you if you realize how poorly your statements are worded and how difficult they are to read with their incessant cursing, non-sensical elipticals and half sentences? Oh and how about every other word being misspelled? For your info, "alot" is actually A LOT. That's two words there buddy. And have ever you even heard of an apostrophe? I think next time you want to make a logical and sensical post on such an important and sensitive subject you should probably take twice as much time and at least try to put some effort into not sounding like a total dimwit. Then at least through all your stupid yelling, asanine whinning and totally ironic threatening you don't come off as completely ignorant.[/quote]

Sure I'll do that......thanks for putting me in my place!

Re: Don Imus
 

[quote=FRPLG;297636]100% PURE WHOOP ASS

I am going to ignore the basic idiocy of the content of your posts because they are so out of line that any reasonable person, black or white or whatever, would just shake their head and move on.

But I will ask you if you realize how poorly your statements are worded and how difficult they are to read with their incessant cursing, non-sensical elipticals and half sentences? Oh and how about every other word being misspelled? For your info, "alot" is actually A LOT. That's two words there buddy. And have ever you even heard of an apostrophe? I think next time you want to make a logical and sensical post on such an important and sensitive subject you should probably take twice as much time and at least try to put some effort into not sounding like a total dimwit. Then at least through all your stupid yelling, asanine whinning and totally ironic threatening you don't come off as completely ignorant.[/quote]

They out of line huh? well like I said, I love to hear someone say those exact words, to a person of color face, oh yeah asshole i didnt know this was a sppeelling contest, I dont put up wut noone racism, ( did I spell that right) and of course you understand why any black person would be mad right, cause you suppor the cause!!!!!! CLEAR ENOUGH, and when you put up with that kind of shit most of your life, you get tired of it.......OF COURSE YOU UNDERSTAND......RIGHT BROTHER, screw you!

Re: Don Imus
 

That was the last straw 100%, you have a new username-0% New Posts. You've got obvious issues that we don't have the time nor desire to deal with on this board.

Congratulations, you will be TheMalcolmConnection's first official ban.

Re: Don Imus
 

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;298324]That was the last straw 100%, you have a new username-0% New Posts. You've got obvious issues that we don't have the time nor desire to deal with on this board.

Congratulations, you will be TheMalcolmConnection's first official ban.[/QUOTE]
I always knew the mods were actually vampires. TMC isn't official until he takes his first victim.

I bet you also wear eyeliner and black fishnets.

Re: Don Imus
 

[QUOTE=ArtMonkDrillz;298331]I always knew the mods were actually vampires. TMC isn't official until he takes his first victim.

I bet you also wear eyeliner and black fishnets.[/QUOTE]

Only on Elvira night! That's when we all gather round SGG's house and play charades, only reenacting scenes from Mistress of the Dark movies

That sig is awesome by the way

Re: Don Imus
 

Thank yuns

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[quote=100% PURE WHOOP ASS;298322]They out of line huh? well like I said, I love to hear someone say those exact words, to a person of color face, oh yeah asshole i didnt know this was a sppeelling contest, I dont put up wut noone racism, ( did I spell that right) and of course you understand why any black person would be mad right, cause you suppor the cause!!!!!! CLEAR ENOUGH, and when you put up with that kind of shit most of your life, you get tired of it.......OF COURSE YOU UNDERSTAND......RIGHT BROTHER, screw you![/quote]

To quote my new favorite saying that I stole from AMD...

...you just got F'ed in the A.

Re: Don Imus
 

I did it. I feel stronger, faster than before.

Looks like I gave 100% PURE WHOOP ASS a taste of his own medicine. HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR!!!

Re: Don Imus
 

[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;298379]

...you just got F'ed in the A.[/QUOTE]

OK, I've stayed away from this thread for the simple fact that this is an extremely sensitive subject, but I have got to say, just browsing, that comment made me laugh out loud!!!!

Re: Don Imus
 

[url=http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nappy]nappy - Definitions from Dictionary.com[/url]

This post has been edited by myself (jsarno) due to more knowledge on this subject. Thank you.

Re: Don Imus
 

Well, jsarno, it is generally considered a derogatory term toward the African-American community and adding "ho" was offensive to all the women on the team. Imus and his executive producer have both made several racially and ethnically offensive comments in the past (which I won't repeat here), so this wasn't a first time offense. And finally, the ultimate straw was the sponsors pulling out (green is the most important color, at least at CBS it is. I know, I used to work there)

I don't think firing him solves anything per se, but this wasn't necessarily a one time incident for him or his EP either.

Re: Don Imus
 

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;298438]Well, jsarno, it is generally considered a derogatory term toward the African-American community and adding "ho" was offensive to all the women on the team. Imus and his executive producer have both made several racially and ethnically offensive comments in the past (which I won't repeat here), so this wasn't a first time offense. And finally, the ultimate straw was the sponsors pulling out (green is the most important color, at least at CBS it is. I know, I used to work there)

I don't think firing him solves anything per se, but this wasn't necessarily a one time incident for him or his EP either.[/QUOTE]

I'm not trying to sound rude...but I am genuinely curious about what ethnically offensive comments he has made, because as far as I knew this was the first. If you are indeed correct and he made comments that racially insensitive in the past, then I will retract my previous statement as incorrect and beleive the firing was warranted. (pm me with them if need be) I don't beleive we as a society should accept racism in any way...and that means the racism that Al Sharpton spews as well. (but that's another story)
I understand the Ho comment...in fact, I found that part to be the "offensive" part, but no one commented on that...they ran with the "nappy" part.
I would appreciate the information that you or anyone possesses about Imus's racist comments in the past so I can make a more accurate assessment of this scenario. Thank you.

Re: Don Imus
 

I sent you a PM

Re: Don Imus
 

There was also the comparison to the West Side story thing. They were talking about how the Tennessee girls were cute and Rutgers ones were hard and street bc they had tattoos. The West side story reference was clearly referring to the fact of lightskinned blacks and whites vs. dark skinned blacks and being thugs, etc.

Overall if you understand how slang is interpreted now and you listen to the entire Imus broadcast from that day you can see how it is offensive.

Re: Don Imus
 

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;298445]I sent you a PM[/QUOTE]

Those links were VERY enlightening. Thank you for the time you took to inform me of his comments in the past.
I retract my previous statements, and have changed my mind on this subject.

Re: Don Imus
 

[QUOTE=hooskins;298448]There was also the comparison to the West Side story thing. They were talking about how the Tennessee girls were cute and Rutgers ones were hard and street bc they had tattoos. The West side story reference was clearly referring to the fact of lightskinned blacks and whites vs. dark skinned blacks and being thugs, etc.

Overall if you understand how slang is interpreted now and you listen to the entire Imus broadcast from that day you can see how it is offensive.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I agree. He called the Rutgers team "jigaboos". That's what originally caught my attention, and what angered me. Movie reference, or not, that was the racist comment, IMO. I think it is stupid how that comment has received less criticism than the other comments he made.

Re: Don Imus
 

[QUOTE=GhettoDogAllStars;298535]Yeah, I agree. He called the Rutgers team "jigaboos". That's what originally caught my attention, and what angered me. Movie reference, or not, that was the racist comment, IMO. I think it is stupid how that comment has received less criticism than the other comments he made.[/QUOTE]

I thought the exact thing when I heard it. They played the clip on Sirius Saturday and that was the first time I heard the whole thing. The "nappy hoes" part was bad, but I was blown away when he said "jiggaboos." I couldn't believe my ears, honestly. I mean, it's bad enough you make one racist/offensive one, but then you come out with something as blatantly racist as "jiggaboo?!" Are you kidding me?

Re: Don Imus
 

imus was wrong,but he did say he was sorry which is a shitload more than what revs jackson and sharpton said to the players at duke they labeled as racists rapists!

Re: Don Imus
 

Yup, totally agree.

Re: Don Imus
 

You reap, what you sow. have a nice day Don.
Oh yea..........Jesse, and Al, your time is coming.

Re: Don Imus
 

[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;298379]To quote my new favorite saying that I stole from AMD...

...you just got F'ed in the A.[/quote]

F'ed?

Frenched?
Fingered?
Flicked?
Followed?
Flailed?
Fouled?

Re: Don Imus
 

Felched?

Re: Don Imus
 

yuck

Re: Don Imus
 

Flown in the airplane?

Re: Don Imus
 

[quote=gibbsisgod;298910]Felched?[/quote]

:lol: I can't believe I didn't think of that considering...err...never mind.

Re: Don Imus
 

[quote=gibbsisgod;298910]Felched?[/quote]

:vomit:

Re: Don Imus
 

[quote=724Skinsfan;298905]F'ed?

Frenched?
Fingered?
Flicked?
Followed?
Flailed?
Fouled?[/quote]

Speaking of which, AMD, WHERE ARE THE MAD LIBS?!

Re: Don Imus
 

[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;298930]Speaking of which, AMD, WHERE ARE THE MAD LIBS?![/QUOTE]
Oh yeah, those might have to make a return.