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[QUOTE=BrudLee;291621]The only way this could be true and not involve me spitting out bile for the next week involves the following variables:
[LIST][*]The Redskins think that there is parity among the top four DT's in the draft. There is legitimate argument that the best DT is Okoye or Branch, and Justin Harrell is rising. If our scouts see a fourth DT in that mix, then he's a guy that should make it through to 31.[*]Marcus Washington is, literally, half the player he was. We know nothing of his health status, and if his hip has rendered him immobile, we don't have the guy to be our SAM LB.[*]Preliminary discussions have Briggs signing a deal that doesn't pay him much differently than the Bears would have in their early contract proposal. Sometimes a player will take less to get out of what they see is a poisonous situation. Granted, it doesn't happen with the Redskins signing checks very often, but hope spring eternal.[*]There's [i]something[/i] else coming over from Chicago, even if it's just for show. Tack a fourth round pick on a deal, and it acts like spackle, filling in the little cracks that we all inherently see.[/LIST][/QUOTE] I starting to think that the DT and DE are all running about the same and there was talk early in Feb. that the Redskins were not wild about these DE and DT at a 6th pick in the draft! I am begaining to feel that is true. I also see much of what you are saying could be true[in your post] but for me Brings the 31st pick in the draft is a little short of that 6th over all pick. So a 2nd or a 4th would go along ways towards making this good. But in trades like this we seem not to do well. AS for Washington I truly hope his is not that bad off. He is one of the Redskin Players I really like!

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

I read this was put together by drew rosenhaus, dan snyder, and Vinny C... I just hope Gibbs vetos the deal because it is absolutley an idoitic deal... I guess their strategy is get Briggs and take Merriweather with 31 but still it is stupid Gibbs SAY NO

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[quote=dmek25;291715]this works for everyone but the bears. they lose an all pro linebacker for the equivalent of a third round pick. with him carrying the franchise tag, the can do alot better[/quote]

Actually without this trade the Bears suffer more if Briggs follows through with his "I won't play in 2007 for the Bears" statement. Puzzling why some of these other teams with a ton of money aren't making a play for Briggs, as well. Assuming they haven't behind the scenes, of course.

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[QUOTE=GoSkins!;291638]The part that doesn't make sense is this. Denver offers thier probowl linebacker plus thier 1st, 2nd, 3rd picks. We say no. Instead we want another teams linebacker and a later 1st with no 2nd or 3rd.

Something does not sound right.[/QUOTE] Good thing we didn't take that trade Wilson could pass a Giants physical!!!

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[QUOTE=Skinsfanatic;291713]How about this, what if we were planning to make the Denver trade (6 for 21, Bly and second and third), and then trade the 21 pick (and maybe the third) for the 31 pick and Briggs. The move from 21 to 31 is worth 275 (the equivalent of a late 2nd).

Skins give up the 6th pick, get Bly, Briggs, the 31st pick and a second round pick

Denver gives up Bly, 21, second and third round picks, get the 6th pick.

Bears give up Briggs and the 31 pick, get the 21 and a third.[/QUOTE] I like the way you think but that is way to much thinking for our FO!

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[QUOTE=RedskinPete;291722]I starting to think that the DT and DE are all running about the same and there was talk early in Feb. that the Redskins were not wild about these DE and DT at a 6th pick in the draft! I am begaining to feel that is true. I also see much of what you are saying could be true[in your post] but for me Brings the 31st pick in the draft is a little short of that 6th over all pick. So a 2nd or a 4th would go along ways towards making this good. But in trades like this we seem not to do well. AS for Washington I truly hope his is not that bad off. He is one of the Redskin Players I really like![/QUOTE]

I can't imagine that Gibbs & Co. were disenchanted with all of the defensive linemen projected to go in the first 10-15 picks. But then, they don't seem to be enamored with ANY defensive linemen year after year.

Even if they weren't happy with the D-linemen at #6, why not trade down just a few spots and pick up more selections in the second or third? Winding up with the #31 spot in the first round smashes any notion of trading down.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[QUOTE=Beemnseven;291721]The problem is we don't have any other picks until round 5 -- and there will not be any defensive linemen at that late stage to help where we need it most. This year's draft is deep at DL, but not [I]that[/I] deep. If we take this deal and get the 31st pick, we won't have any bargaining power to trade down -- so there definitely won't be anything else "in the works" if this happens.

Teams ran all over us at the defensive line first -- so it follows that we need to address the front four first. Briggs won't matter at that point.[/QUOTE] We will not know for a few years if you are right about this draft being a deep draft at DL. If it isn't and we take a pick of one D lineman at 6th and pay out that money and it is a miss!!!! It will be a few more years of top 10 in drafts to get back to the play-offs!

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[QUOTE=Beemnseven;291728]I can't imagine that Gibbs & Co. were disenchanted with all of the defensive linemen projected to go in the first 10-15 picks. But then, they don't seem to be enamored with ANY defensive linemen year after year.

Even if they weren't happy with the D-linemen at #6, why not trade down just a few spots and pick up more selections in the second or third? Winding up with the #31 spot in the first round smashes any notion of trading down.[/QUOTE] You are right that is why we need a 2nd or 4th[I don't believe they have a 3rd in 07] thrown in as well from the Bears.

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If the Bears threw in their 3rd rounder, Briggs doesn't ask for a $18M+ signing bonus, and the coaches think there's a starting-caliber DT/DE at #31, I wouldn't be opposed to the trade.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[quote=#56fanatic;291700]for the life of me I can't understand all of the negativity towards this proposed deal. We keep a 1st rounder, and gain a STUD of a LB. Rocky may not be developing the way they want, or if they are like me, you just can't pass up on a guy like Briggs. especially when you essentially just change picks and do not lose our 1st rounder. Our D line does need to be addressed, which it will, just later in the draft. The draft is deep enough we can get a quality player. There may be something in the works we do not know about yet. I can't believe the number of people that are all for signing aged up LB or OLINE men, but when a 26 year old beast LB comes available for essentially nothing, people are bashing it. Yes it will cost us, yes Rocky will sit, but that is just a move that can't be ignored. That side of our D was consistantly run all over.[/quote]

Please don't try to convince me that "keeping a first rounder" means a whole hell of a lot. We're dropping from 6 to 31 in this scenario, I don't care what you're calling it. Would it be much different if we dropped from 6 to 33 (the second round)???

Saying we're keeping a 1st rounder with the 31st pick is technically true. But it doesn't mean a hell of a lot. Going from 6 to 31 means we're giving up a ton of opportunity.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;291732]If the Bears threw in their 3rd rounder, Briggs doesn't ask for a $18M+ signing bonus, and the coaches think there's a starting-caliber DT/DE at #31, I wouldn't be opposed to the trade.[/QUOTE] Dose anyone know what is Washington health...is his hip that bad or is this all guess work?

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This is a ticket selling money making pick. Not loving the idea of bringin in FA linebacker to learn new system when we can get a fresh college kid and mold him for much less. If we got two picks out of the deal maybe, but that's not in the cards.

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[quote=GTripp0012;291714]To play devil's advocate for a second-

I like Justin Harrell as a prospect. And there's an outside chance that Alan Branch could still be around at 31. So if we could land a prospect whom we were considering at 6, and now only have to pay him No. 31 money, we'd actually come out great in this deal.

But then again, if Harrell and Branch get taken prior to 31, and we don't have an option but to take the best remaining DL prospect, then the Briggs deal has officially royaly screwed us.

If we are genuinely interested in this deal, I could only assume it was because we weren't enamored with ANY of the top prospects.[/quote]

Doesn't matter what we think about the top defensive line prospects, guys. If we didn't like the guys at the top, we could trade our #6 down for more picks. We could pull a deal with Denver for their 21st pick, and get a 2nd and a 4th or something. We don't have to squander the trade value of the 6th pick for Lance Briggs.

Again, it's not about what we're getting. It's about what opportunities we're giving up here.

There is no rationalizing why this deal makes sense. Please, people stop being homers for a second and stretching yourselves to come to the defense of the great Joe Gibbs. We need a DT to stop the run (how quickly we forget Tiki gashing us in week 17). We need athleticism at safety alongside Taylor (Fox was OK, but at the end of the season, was the secondary at the level you really want it?). We need a Guard with a big body (do you trust a 6'8" Todd Wade to get low enough to clear the way for Portis around the goalline when we sorely need a TD?).

We don't need one mother effing linebacker, for God's sakes. Do you really think we're THAT good right now? That Briggs will come in and take us to the next level? We need multiple athletes. I don't want to say we're in rebuilding mode, but we're definitely still BUILDING.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[QUOTE=Schneed10;291734]Please don't try to convince me that "keeping a first rounder" means a whole hell of a lot. We're dropping from 6 to 31 in this scenario, I don't care what you're calling it. Would it be much different if we dropped from 6 to 33 (the second round)???

Saying we're keeping a 1st rounder with the 31st pick is technically true. But it doesn't mean a hell of a lot. Going from 6 to 31 means we're giving up a ton of opportunity.[/QUOTE] Well it dose mean something droping to 33 because the pick would get less money because he is not a first rounder! As for your post yes falling that far and not getting another pick seems short to me!

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Plain and Simple: This is a great deal if we get a second or third round pick. This is a really great deal if we get the 31st and 37th. We get screwed if we just get the 31st.

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[quote=RedskinPete;291741]Well it dose mean something droping to 33 because the pick would get less money because he is not a first rounder! As for your post yes falling that far and not getting another pick seems short to me![/quote]

The difference between 31 money and 33 money is miniscule.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[quote=skinsfan242;291742]Plain and Simple: This is a great deal if we get a second or third round pick. This is a really great deal if we get the 31st and 37th. We get screwed if we just get the 31st.[/quote]

Well said. I got no problem with Briggs and think he'd be a good player for us. But the fact is we need more players than just him and whatever the 31 will buy us. Put another pick in the deal (a 3rd rounder would do) and I'd be on board.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;291740]Doesn't matter what we think about the top defensive line prospects, guys. If we didn't like the guys at the top, we could trade our #6 down for more picks. We could pull a deal with Denver for their 21st pick, and get a 2nd and a 4th or something. We don't have to squander the trade value of the 6th pick for Lance Briggs.

Again, it's not about what we're getting. It's about what opportunities we're giving up here.

There is no rationalizing why this deal makes sense. Please, people stop being homers for a second and stretching yourselves to come to the defense of the great Joe Gibbs. We need a DT to stop the run (how quickly we forget Tiki gashing us in week 17). We need athleticism at safety alongside Taylor (Fox was OK, but at the end of the season, was the secondary at the level you really want it?). We need a Guard with a big body (do you trust a 6'8" Todd Wade to get low enough to clear the way for Portis around the goalline when we sorely need a TD?).

We don't need one mother effing linebacker, for God's sakes. Do you really think we're THAT good right now? That Briggs will come in and take us to the next level? We need multiple athletes. I don't want to say we're in rebuilding mode, but we're definitely still BUILDING.[/QUOTE] The truth is the FO went for it all last season and fail big time. Trading most our picks in 07 and one in 08. There just is little chance we can make it up in one year or with one pick[6th]. It would be hard to do it trading down and the likeyhood of hitting on lets say three good players in a trade down of three picks is not good. So what is the best way to go? That is why you have a Great GM to plan away to go and not this live for today way of thinking!

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[quote=RedskinPete;291747]The truth is the FO went for it all last season and fail big time. Trading most our picks in 07 and one in 08. There just is little chance we can make it up in one year or with one pick[6th]. It would be hard to do it trading down and the likeyhood of hitting on lets say three good players in a trade down of three picks is not good. So what is the best way to go? That is why you have a Great GM to plan away to go and not this live for today way of thinking![/quote]

I agree that we squandered picks, which bugs the hell out of me. But that's neither here nor there when discussing what's the best move to make NEXT.

I don't care what's happened already, that's history, I care what's about to happen.

The best way to go is add mutliple athletes because we have multiple holes. There is no argument otherwise.

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Fundamental questions to ask yourself about the Redskins:

Are you satisfied with Todd Wade at G? Is that a long term answer?

Are you satisfied with Pierson Prioleau (coming off a major knee injury), Vernon Fox, and Omar Stoutmire alongside Sean Taylor?

Are you satisfied with Todd Yoder as your backup TE?

Are you satisfied with our pass rush off the End? Regardless of how you feel about Carter (I think he looked good at the end of the year), how much longer do you think Daniels and Wynn can be effective? Are they even effective enough for your tastes when healthy?

Do you trust Kedric Golston (290 pounds) to improve against the run enough to enable us to get back to blitzing on 2nd and 8 and 3rd and 6? Remember, if we're in 2nd and 6 and 3rd and 3 all the time, we can't blitz much, can we.

How much longer can Cornelius Griffin (30 yrs old) hold up? What happens to us if he gets hurt?

And you want Lance Briggs and the 31st???

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If we do trade down to 31 we need to consider Lamar Woodly. Hes a quick DE that was very stout against the run. We should aslo look at Anthony Spencer (Purdue), Charles Johnson (Georgia), and Justin Harell (Tenn.)

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;291749]I agree that we squandered picks, which bugs the hell out of me. But that's neither here nor there when discussing what's the best move to make NEXT.

I don't care what's happened already, that's history, I care what's about to happen.

The best way to go is add mutliple athletes because we have multiple holes. There is no argument otherwise.[/QUOTE] I think there is......Lets say by some luck we do hit a great player with the six pick. I would be ok with that. What are the odds so so. But to hit three is so unlikely. Just look how long it has been for the Redskins to get three great players in one draft. A long time and they haven't been hitting lower picks at all. The best you can say is Piece and he was a free agent not drafted as well not even signed by this group in FO! You are right moving down for most team would be the move but after last year dose our FO have it in them to make one player in to three?

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I don't think this will happen. I haven't looked at the whole thread but here goes.

Let's look at what we have: Washington, LF, Rocky as our starters, right?

So we are going to give up on Rocky after 1 season to sign Briggs? Doesn't make alot of sense. Right now our lb's look pretty good. It's our secondary, dline, oline that needs some work.

I really, really doubt it. Briggs is a great young player, but it's kind of like signing 3-4 good wr's and not having anyone to throw them the ball. Oh yeah, we did do that.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

ESPN radio just announced that the deal has officially been offered. Briggs, and their 31st for our 6th.
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2814052]ESPN.com - NFL - Agent: Bears' Briggs could go to Redskins in trade[/url]

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[quote=Hog1;291761]ESPN radio just announced that the deal has officially been offered. Briggs, and their 31st for our 6th.[/quote]

Uh oh, the calm before the storm.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;291755]Fundamental questions to ask yourself about the Redskins:

Are you satisfied with Todd Wade at G? Is that a long term answer?

Are you satisfied with Pierson Prioleau (coming off a major knee injury), Vernon Fox, and Omar Stoutmire alongside Sean Taylor?

Are you satisfied with Todd Yoder as your backup TE?

Are you satisfied with our pass rush off the End? Regardless of how you feel about Carter (I think he looked good at the end of the year), how much longer do you think Daniels and Wynn can be effective? Are they even effective enough for your tastes when healthy?

Do you trust Kedric Golston (290 pounds) to improve against the run enough to enable us to get back to blitzing on 2nd and 8 and 3rd and 6? Remember, if we're in 2nd and 6 and 3rd and 3 all the time, we can't blitz much, can we.

How much longer can Cornelius Griffin (30 yrs old) hold up? What happens to us if he gets hurt?

And you want Lance Briggs and the 31st???[/QUOTE] Point well taken and you are so right. But one pick is not going to change this. Not even one draft with all you picks[what we don't have by the way] It's going to take at least two drafts to over come what you have posted! We painted ourselfs in to a corner so it's going to take time to right the ship!

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[quote=#56fanatic;291700]for the life of me I can't understand all of the negativity towards this proposed deal. We keep a 1st rounder, and gain a STUD of a LB. Rocky may not be developing the way they want, or if they are like me, you just can't pass up on a guy like Briggs. especially when you essentially just change picks and do not lose our 1st rounder. Our D line does need to be addressed, which it will, just later in the draft. The draft is deep enough we can get a quality player. There may be something in the works we do not know about yet. I can't believe the number of people that are all for signing aged up LB or OLINE men, but when a 26 year old beast LB comes available for essentially nothing, people are bashing it. Yes it will cost us, yes Rocky will sit, but that is just a move that can't be ignored. That side of our D was consistantly run all over.[/quote]

rocky has not even had the chance to show it on the field. let the guy develop instead of giving up on him so damn early in his career. remember we gave up a 2nd rounder just to move up and pick the guy. at least give him the chance to show it on the field, give the guy a full training camp at least. jeez, what is it w/ our coaching staff that is so damn afraid to play young players when everyone else in the nfl does it???

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[quote=RedskinPete;291758]I think there is......Lets say by some luck we do hit a great player with the six pick. I would be ok with that. What are the odds so so. But to hit three is so unlikely. Just look how long it has been for the Redskins to get three great players in one draft. A long time and they haven't been hitting lower picks at all. The best you can say is Piece and he was a free agent not drafted as well not even signed by this group in FO! You are right moving down for most team would be the move but after last year dose our FO have it in them to make one player in to three?[/quote]

I don't need 3 superstars out of a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounder. I need a Derrick Dockery at Guard, a guy who was by no means spectacular, but could run block and got the job done. I need a big-bodied DT who can eat up space. I don't need 8 sacks out of him. 1 sack is fine, as long as he clogs the run. And I need a safety with some speed and youth on his side. He doesn't need to be huge, he doesn't need to have Ed Reed's ball hawking skills. He just needs to be younger than our current guys, and play with ferocity and speed.

I don't need superstars. I NEED A TEAM.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[QUOTE=Hog1;291761]ESPN radio just announced that the deal has officially been offered. Briggs, and their 31st for our 6th.[/QUOTE] If true a bad deal with out another pick!

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

[quote=Hog1;291761]ESPN radio just announced that the deal has officially been offered. Briggs, and their 31st for our 6th.[/quote]

if this is deal goes through i'm going to go puke.

Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
 

Anyone got odds on us throwing in a 2008 pick to seal the deal?

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[quote=Schneed10;291766]I don't need 3 superstars out of a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounder. I need a Derrick Dockery at Guard, a guy who was by no means spectacular, but could run block and got the job done. I need a big-bodied DT who can eat up space. I don't need 8 sacks out of him. 1 sack is fine, as long as he clogs the run. And I need a safety with some speed and youth on his side. He doesn't need to be huge, he doesn't need to have Ed Reed's ball hawking skills. He just needs to be younger than our current guys, and play with ferocity and speed.

I don't need superstars. I NEED A TEAM.[/quote]

But we have an owner who just wants to sell jerseys. We have an owner who just has to always make a big splash. We have an owner who has no clue how to win. And it looks like we have a coach/ team pres. that's just along for the ride.

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If its any constilation [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd9ZQaKEaWs]YouTube - Lance Briggs drops Shaun Alexander on 4th and 1[/url].

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[QUOTE=skinsfan242;291742]Plain and Simple: This is a great deal if we get a second or third round pick. This is a really great deal if we get the 31st and 37th. We get screwed if we just get the 31st.[/QUOTE]

I agree with this, but we will never get that much. The skins pick is 1600 points, the Bears first 2 picks total 1130. That trade would basically put a 470 point value on Briggs which is equivilent to the 43rd pick in the draft. The Bears will never accept a mid 2nd round pick for Briggs. Basically we get screwed one way they get screwed the other way...why don't we all just walk away!

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We have to look on the bright side. The last Bears Pro Bowl linebacker we added was Wilbur Marshall. Look how that turned out.

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[QUOTE=RedskinPete;291764]Point well taken and you are so right. But one pick is not going to change this. Not even one draft with all [your] picks[what we don't have by the way] It's going to take at least two drafts to over come what you have posted! We painted ourselfs in to a corner so it's going to take time to right the ship![/QUOTE]

Exactly -- so we have to start somewhere. You don't look at the list of needs Schneed mentioned, admit that we can't address all of those needs in one draft, and proceed to do nothing about it.

I've got a sick feeling in my gut after hearing the news that the offer is official. If the front office didn't like any of the options at #6, then you [B]trade down.[/B]

The way it stands, somebody with a lot of value could still be there at #6. Once we lose that spot, our draft situation goes from bad to worse.

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[QUOTE=Dirtbag359;291773]We have to look on the bright side. The last Bears Pro Bowl linebacker we added was Wilbur Marshall. Look how that turned out.[/QUOTE]


But this time, we don't have Dave Butz, Daryl Grant, Jumpy Geathers, Tim Johnson or Eric Williams in front of Lance Briggs.

Get ready for very different results.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;291766]I don't need 3 superstars out of a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounder. I need a Derrick Dockery at Guard, a guy who was by no means spectacular, but could run block and got the job done. I need a big-bodied DT who can eat up space. I don't need 8 sacks out of him. 1 sack is fine, as long as he clogs the run. And I need a safety with some speed and youth on his side. He doesn't need to be huge, he doesn't need to have Ed Reed's ball hawking skills. He just needs to be younger than our current guys, and play with ferocity and speed.

I don't need superstars. I NEED A TEAM.[/QUOTE] You may not need super stars but you need to look at facts. The Redskins have had poor drafts when it comes to the 2nd thru 4th picks. Yes they have some hits like Dockery,Cooley[cost more picks to get him]Betts and Smoot. The failers over the last six draft are Rosenfels,White,Harrison and Moore. So the likeyhood of filling all three needs is NOT good. Dose that mean you don't try no. But if you only have one pick and you are so poor at the draft it's not hard to see why the Briggs and the 31st pick for the 6th would look good to the Redskins FO. I still say it isn't enough and a 2nd or 3rd draft pick is in order. You way is the way of most NFL team but not they way our team gose about it. I staring to see get as many draft picks as you can and the higer the better and hope you hit on haft of them!

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Did the Skins make the offer or did the Bears? I'm not listening to ESPN radio so I have no idea.

This is really terrible. We need a Vice President of Common Sense in Ashburn really badly.

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[quote=Beemnseven;291775]But this time, we don't have Dave Butz, Daryl Grant, Jumpy Geathers, Tim Johnson or Eric Williams in front of Lance Briggs.

Get ready for very different results.[/quote]

Too true my friend. However the way I look at it is heres what we had to look at. Either get a Pro Bowl Defensive Playmaker and a defensive starter or get three starters. Personally I would rather take the first option.