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[QUOTE=mheisig]They were 4-2 before they totally fell apart. That's not stellar, no, but losing 2 out of 6 games is hardly something to whine about.

Still, for the sake of argument I'll grant that their start was not up to expectations - so now it's ok for Owens to act like a child? Who wants players who are only useful when things are on the up? Just like the old saying "A fairweather fan ain't a fan," I maintain a fairweather teammate isn't a teammate.[/QUOTE]

TO was very useful even when they were losing. All he did was talk too much. Remember, the eagles stopped TO from playing, TO did not stop playing for the eagles.

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This was TO's reaction after the 49ers dropped their third straight to fall to 1-3 in [URL=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2003/writers/don_banks/09/28/owens_moss/]2003[/URL]

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It puzzles me to no end how anyone can actually defend this guy.

:confused:

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[QUOTE=mheisig]Since when is $42 million for seven years and a $10 million signing bonus "cheap"???

If that's "cheap" then sign me up for a fraction of "cheap" as my salary.[/QUOTE]

It is when you are the best receiver. Look around the league and look at the other receivers making more than him. Now who fault is it in a sense for him signing the contract? TO and his past agent. Agreed but none the less Philly got a bargin. Too bad-or be thankful- he figured out what other receivers made.

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T.O with the redskins,lets see i would think not.
he is a problem child and way too much ego to go with it ,too much baggage for me.no thanks.
i love his talent but other than that no thank you.he would be a helluva addition
to this team opposite of moss.

did i say no thanks,lol

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[QUOTE=Skins fan 44]It is when you are the best receiver. Look around the league and look at the other receivers making more than him. Now who fault is it in a sense for him signing the contract? TO and his past agent. Agreed but none the less Philly got a bargin. Too bad-or be thankful- he figured out what other receivers made.[/QUOTE]

Bullshiat - TO isn't the best receiver, I don't care which way you look at it. A top receiver? Sure. NOT the best.

Had TO played out his contract he would have been the 2nd or 3rd highest paid receiver (with Marvin Harrison and possibly Randy Moss in front of him). Harrison and TO have both been in the league 10 years, Moss has been in the league 8 years.

[IMG]http://test.extensibletech.com/stats.jpg[/IMG]

Owens is a solid THIRD here, even compared to Randy Moss who has two less years in the league.

In addition, there was a feature on the NFL Network at the beginning of the season interviewing cornerbacks on who they thought was the best receiver. The only names mentioned were Harrison, Moss and Owens - but Harrison was virtually the unanimous favorite (all the DBs said his routes were virtually perfect.) So even among the players themselves Owens isn't the best receiver.

Owens got paid exactly what he was worth - he's the current #3 overall receiver in the league, and he got paid the salary to equal that. The stats prove it.

What a jackass to whine about his pay when he's getting precisely what he's worth.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]This was TO's reaction after the 49ers dropped their third straight to fall to 1-3 in [URL=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2003/writers/don_banks/09/28/owens_moss/]2003[/URL][/QUOTE]

:lol: Man that's a good read - thanks for posting it.

Whenever I'm watching TO speak I get the feeling it's one of those, "Help! I'm talking and I can't shut up!" situations. It's like he'll just go and go and dig himself into an amazing hole until someone cuts him off or the show runs out of airtime.

It's really quite humorous watching someone who almost literally can't stop talking.

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mheisig- OK OK so he is not the best receiver. BUT I still think that having Moss and TO on the field would be great. I can't argue that he was not a jackass during this year. I think you can credit his agent for that one. I dont think that he was the 3rd highest paid receiver though. I cant rembember who was else was making more but when I heard it I thought what a slap in the face and that is still no excuse to hold out when you have a contract just signed last year. I also think deep down that Philly knew they signed him for a bargin.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]NO, NO & NO.

How many more teams does this guy have to burn before people finally wake up and realize he is nothing but a cancer and a selfish media whore.[/QUOTE]


Agreed, Seems as though we just went through this same topic just a little while ago, and I really don't see why we continue discussing this guy I don't care who endorses him. Any team would have to want to win very badly to have TO on their team. Granted, he may be a talent but his returns are diminishing because of his charachter.

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[QUOTE=mheisig]BS. Owens "put his career" on the line for his own personal glory, which is the motivation for everything he does. Owens is the ultimate antithesis of a team player - he is in this game solely for money and his own glory, not the team's.

You've got to be the most naive football fan around to think for an instant that Owens "put his career on the line" for the good of the team. It's also quite unfortunate that there are fans like yourself that support such self-serving antics.

Being a die-hard Skins fan I have hated Philly most of my life, but I have a newfound respect for Reid and the team owner for standing up to such childish behavior as Owens' and make an example of him.

::sigh::

Whatever happened to guys playing because they loved the game and made a more-than-adequate living doing so?[/QUOTE]

I don't believe that, I think he put his career on the line for a SuperBowl, I know he is selfish but this time I think your wrong, that brother wanted to win a Superbowl, and even though I cheered for New England, watching him play was amazing

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Fair enough. Let me ask you this then, when our backs were to the wall after having lost 3 in a row and we were about to face the Rams how do you think TO would have acted if he were a Redskin? Do you think he would have been a positive for this team? Or let's say it was TO, not Moss, that was with us this year. And his numbers were great to begin with but had recently been going down, do you think he would handle it the same way Moss has?[/QUOTE]

Good Point, except we wouldn't had lost 3 games in a row with T.O., period

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]TO is a cancer because of exactly this reason! He has created a divide in the locker room. McNabb hates him and wants him gone. Trotter loves him and wants him to stay. And there's a bunch of other guys on each side of the fence. You're telling me that because a portion of the players want to keep him, that's a good sign???

You want all of your players on the same page as the coaches. TO caused that huge rift. Reid and McNabb want him gone, and a bunch of other players want him back. No matter how you cut it, that ain't good.[/QUOTE]


Also, in situations like TO when players are asked directly by the Media how they feel about a particular player in a situation like this being welcomed back to the team, they hardly ever mention anything deragatory in reference because that's the smartest way to remain neutral. Some players are naturally going to say they would welcome him back when in reality, that's the farthest thing from the truth.

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[QUOTE=wewhite3]Good Point, except we wouldn't had lost 3 games in a row with T.O., period[/QUOTE]



you don' know that, the skins could lose 3 or more games in a row due to any number of cercumstances. it's situations or scenarios like that that coaches have to be prepared for by having the right kind of players and coaches who are capable of handling and staying positive during such situations.

t.o clearly is not capable of handling or staying positive in a situation such as that.

gibbs would never sign t.o or any player like him.

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That would be AWESOME!!!


TO brings down every team he is a member of...... :food-smil

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[QUOTE=wolfeskins]you don' know that, the skins could lose 3 or more games in a row due to any number of cercumstances. it's situations or scenarios like that that coaches have to be prepared for by having the right kind of players and coaches who are capable of handling and staying positive during such situations.

t.o clearly is not capable of handling or staying positive in a situation such as that.

gibbs would never sign t.o or any player like him.[/QUOTE]

Thats right, you don't know....but thats why we have these discussions....all about debate wheather or wheather not