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punt returner? (may have been mentioned didnt have time to read all the posts)

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As I read somewhere (I think the comments section of RI). Herpes infected felon with a 50% completion percentage and a two year layoff. Where do I sign up?

[quote=53Fan;559174][B]I don't know why anyone would beat their wife. I guess it's a sickness (coward maybe?[/B]) just like hurting animals. If Vick gets the same rush from hurting animals as some people get from drugs or driving fast...he's really got a problem.[/quote]

This usually happens when someone gets abused by an authority figure before puberty. As a result they learn to deal with conflicts and troubling emotions through the use of violence, and in a relationship situation where conflict is natural, they just snap. I'm by no means defending them but as long as parents beat their kids we'll have people growing up with the inability to handle their emotions. I'm willing to bet that guys like Jerome Mathis, James Harrison, and Chris Brown got beat by their parents a little to hard. This is not to say that everyone beat by their parents will turn into a wife beater but it definitely increases the risk. It should come as no surprise that the middle east most likely has the highest rate of child abuse in the world.

On the other hand I don't know how someone gets into the torturing and brutally killing animals. With hunting I know it's a cultural thing but with hunting it's one shot and they're down. It's not a personal form of killing. Hanging and electrocuting animals indicates rage of a more personal nature and as a result indicates very serious mental problems. Not trying to get into the whole deal about how it's ok for certain people to kill certain animals and not others especially when it comes to meat but the way Vick went about his business is a serious red flag.

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[quote=Mattyk72;559091]Until he gets his feet back under him as a QB the wildcat is probably the best way to get him back on the field right away.

What other way is he going to be used this year, especially here?[/quote]
I could see him doing return duty as well; you know I always thought that Vick should've learned the WR position.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;559201]As I read somewhere (I think the comments section of RI). Herpes infected felon with a 50% completion percentage and a two year layoff. Where do I sign up?

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That's quite the admission for you to make! haha

As long as he isn't raping members of our team oh well, I don't see him as a fit though; and I'd be willing to bet that a lot more people than MV in the NFL have the herp

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[quote=MonkFan4Life;559048]I would. I know some people will say no because of the dog fighting stuff but seriously the man went took his punishment now it's time to move on. I'm looking at him as a football player, so I say yes.[/quote]


Dogfighting isn't the issue at all with most folks nixing this idea. To win the whole enchilada and even make the playoffs you have to pass effectively. Vick couldn't pass effectively to save his life!!!!!!! Vick couldn't get the #1 rushing team in the NFL into the playoffs because he sucks as a passer. Matt Ryan gave that franchise a shot in the arm last season. Sure he can't dance like Vick, but he sure can pass now can't he? Brennan has more of a shot at future playoffs for us than Vick!!!

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;559187]


2. Michael Vick is still the property of the Atlanta Falcons and therefore, he can be traded by the Falcons to another team. For those who want him as an insurance policy, what would you be willing to give to the Falcons in order to make certain that Michael Vick winds up here in Washington as opposed to anywhere else in the NFL?[/quote]

he was released this morning

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Mike Vick isnt better than what we got so why bring the distraction to our team?

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[quote=diehardskin2982;559214]he was released this morning[/quote]

got a link on that?

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[quote=Mattyk72;559227]got a link on that?[/quote]

Ya, I just did a quick search and couldn't find anything about his release from the Falcons, I've been watching ESPN and saw nothing on it too. I'd like to see a link as well.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;559222]Mike Vick isnt better than what we got so why bring the distraction to our team?[/quote]

I disagree. He'd be an upgrade as a backup QB and even in the backfield as an RB. He might even work well at WR, working some Wildcat-like plays or what Randle El has done from time to time.

He'd only be a distraction for a few weeks, and if any team could handle the media attention, it's the Skins. We're kind of used to being a media circus as it is.

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I'd like to see a poll on this one....

Anyway...lets think of this from Snyder's perspective...or should I say a Marketing perspective....

Will the Skins get more publicity, yes..
Will the Skins get more money because of it...probably not.
Although it is arguable that we could secure an extra nationally televised game because of this, I think the image problem could affect periphrial skins fans to stop buying Skins gear....as you can tell, many Skins fans can't stomach what Vick did...many may even boycott...more than likely, fans that merely favor the Skins could be lost forever due to a move to get him.

Danny cares about revenue....and I believe this one is more on the con side than the pro side in terms of revenue production....therefore, I predict the Skins will not touch this with a 10 foot pole.

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therefore, I predict the Skins will not touch this with a 10 foot pole.


Agreed.

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[quote]I don't know. I like Vick. I never really had any hardcore issues with what he did. I mean, don't get wrong, I like animals so I'm not fond of his poor decision making in that area, however I do see that our society has it's priorities backward when we send Vick to prison for dogfighting & Bill Romanowski not only remains in the League (at the time he beat his wife up in what can only best be described as a roid rage fit), but also ends up getting into a couple of movies. So we reward people who hurt other people & show the world that we care about our dogs more? I don't get it.


That being said, I don't know that we should consider this option. We already get enough bad press (no, I am not among those who feel that any press is good press) & this would only add to that. Plus, I don't know that Vick would fit well with what we are trying to do here. JMO[/quote]

First let me say, I'm not trying to defend the actions of the people below, but rather trying to point out the reasoning behind such outrage. There are lots of people that commit crimes in the NFL. Few I see as disgusting as what Michael Vick did to those poor animals.

The most common of the NFL arrests seem to come from alcohol, and the most serious offenses are DUIs. Don't get me wrong, driving under the influence is beyond stupid and no one, especially people such as star athletes should ever drive drunk. But, this is where we start looking at intent. These people are stupid, not malicious. Their intent is NOT to harm and maim other people, it's to get home. A bad decision for sure, and worthy of jail time, but in my mind the crime isn't as gross, but can definitely be more tragic.

Domestic disputes are also very high. Violence in the home is a scary thing. I would never advocate the abuse of a spouse. However, I also start to lose patience the longer a person stays in a situation like that. If the words "He hit me" and "again" are in the same sentence -- you've lost my sympathy. Wife beaters DO NOT CHANGE. If he hits you once, get the **** out. You're a human with control and the ability to leave a situation. Perhaps a shelter isn't the ideal situation, but it gives you ability to get back on your feet and away from the asshole.

The problem with dog fighting is this, the dogs have no say in the matter and Vick made a conscious decision to torture them. So not only do the animals not have the power to leave the situation, Vick also is killing them, brutally, on purpose. Are there worse things than dog fighting and the torture of animals? Absolutely, but that type of reasoning is dangerous. That's asking people to monopolize all their time, effort, and money on one issue. I am a huge animal lover, I currently have two cats, and my parents have 4 dogs. I just don't understand how someone could do that to something that gives you nothing but love, all the time.

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Im not even counting what he did against him, as a player,better yet as a QB i was never impressed with him. He can run,thats it. He scares noone with his arm IMO.

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And as a team learning a new Offense i dont see any reason to bring in another offensive set to get 1 player on the field.