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Did they also account for the all the attention Orapko demanded to help with Kerrigan's stats?

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

[quote=diehardskin2982;1056176]Not so fast my friend...

Rack is not even the best linebacker on this team. I took a look on the NFL stats Lab and compared him first to the linebackers on our team. Brian only had 10 sacks, 1 Interception, 0 FF and 60 tackles. Kerrigan had 9 sacks, 0 ints, 4 forced fumbles, and 66 tackles in a year where Kerrigan admitted that he was hurt.

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/4515/kerrigan-to-have-minor-surgery-talks-4-3]Ryan Kerrigan to have minor surgery; talks 4-3 - ESPN[/url]

Now let's compare Rack to the best player at his position this year... Robert Quinn had 19 sacks 7 Forced Fumbles and 57 Tackles. The second best ranked free agent at the same position is Jason Worilds. He had 64 tackles, 8 sacks and 2 FF. That is not much of a drop off, also Jason is two years younger.

We could also target Michael Johnson who excelled at OLB in a 3-4 system in 2012.

All this to say that we don't need to overpay Brian Orakpo. [B]I would argue that Perry Riley is a more important sign than Rack[/B]. Riley is our leading tackler and averaged 79.8 tackles over his four year span on the team.[/quote]


[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO93Edk7xtw[/url]

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1056177]Did they also account for the all the attention Orapko demanded to help with Kerrigan's stats?[/quote]

That could be a valid argument if Kerrigan didn't have the same sack totals in 2012 without Rack due to injury. Ryan had less tackles but Fletcher was a better player in 2012 as well.

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Sacks aren't the be-all, end-all. While I DO agree that signing Riley is important, I still feel like getting Rak back is more important. It would be yet another hole to fill with either a draft pick OR another high priced FA.

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

Rak is going to get a lot of play on the market. There's a reason.

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

Right. BEST case scenario is Rak goes somewhere else, we sign Rob Jackson to a cap-friendly contract, then find out that he's nowhere close to as good as Orakpo.

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

Not saying Rob Jackson is the answer I named some viable replacements in Michael Johnson and Jason Worilds, who both could be cheaper.

I am saying we should not let Rack and his agent walk all over us because he doesn't have max production at his position IMO.

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1056189]Right. BEST case scenario is Rak goes somewhere else, [B]we sign Rob Jackson to a cap-friendly contract, then find out that he's nowhere close to as good as Orakpo.[/B][/quote]

Don't we already know that? :)

IMO we likely will overpay for Rak, as it will take some elite money to sign him despite the fact that he has not put up elite numbers. But not to sign him creates a large hole which is very difficult to fill.

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I.......REALLY don't want this thing to go Champ Bailey on us.......

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

Why is no one brining up the major injury issues for the last 3 years? Does anyone consider him an injury liabilty? I can sre us signing him, and anothrr injury next season aroung the halfway point. It wouldn't be surprising at all given the recent history. I'm a fan of rak, but lets not forget how many games have been missed since 2011.....

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you pay rak. he's here, he's working, you pay him. unless someone offers him a stupid deal like dockery got in buffalo.

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[quote=OnceWeWereKings;1056195]Why is no one brining up the major injury issues for the last 3 years? Does anyone consider him an injury liabilty? I can sre us signing him, and anothrr injury next season aroung the halfway point. It wouldn't be surprising at all given the recent history. I'm a fan of rak, but lets not forget how many games have been missed since 2011.....[/quote]

He has missed one season.Besides that one injury he has missed two games in his career if I remember correctly. Its like saying Brady is injury prone because he missed one season.

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

[quote=OnceWeWereKings;1056195]Why is no one brining up the major injury issues for the last 3 years? Does anyone consider him an injury liabilty? I can sre us signing him, and anothrr injury next season aroung the halfway point. It wouldn't be surprising at all given the recent history. I'm a fan of rak, but lets not forget how many games have been missed since 2011.....[/quote]

Exaggerate much?

He's missed one season in his career.

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I apologize. I thought he hurt his shoulder/pec earlier in the 2011 season. I'm not against re-signing him by any means...just playing devils advocate. I would have fact checked myself before posting, but I was in post nyquil haze after I woke up...

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Orakpo stays, no question