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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1061189][url]https://mobile.twitter.com/Edwerderespn[/url]

Looks like they will tag him if they can't complete the deal.[/quote]

Good, it is what they should do. Do not really see an issue with that unless they plan on signing every big name free agent out there.

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[url=http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=10544512]NFL Redskins to franchise Brian Orakpo - ESPN[/url]

Here is Kiem's article link.

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I definitely support tagging him and continuing to work on a long term deal.

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With potential cuts, wouldn't that give 20 million in space or even more for the Skins to use with the tag?

If they cannot make that work Allen deserves to be fired.

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Httr24-7 saying the tag to Rak would be A Danny boy move, saying reaks of Dan still meddling. I personally wouldn't have a problem with it.

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[quote=Chico23231;1061195]Httr24-7 saying the tag to Rak would be A Danny boy move, saying reaks of Dan still meddling. I personally wouldn't have a problem with it.[/quote]

That's stupid. Not attacking you of course, you're just the messenger here. But what a ridiculous notion.

Tagging him is reflective of how hard it is to find an elite pass rusher. They hardly ever hit the open market, the only way to get one is draft them high. Or if they actually do hit the market, pay through the absolute nose to get one.

If you want a successful defense in today's passing league, you have to pony up. Some positions are just more important than others. You need a good LT, you need a good QB, you need a good pass rush and you need good CBs. The budget for those positions should be high.

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[quote=Chico23231;1061195]Httr24-7 saying the tag to Rak would be A Danny boy move, saying reaks of Dan still meddling. I personally wouldn't have a problem with it.[/quote]

lol it's always Dan's fault.

Sign big name free agents, F Dan.

Attempt to keep our own free agent, F Dan.

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"Danny Boy Move"....sounds like a trustworthy source.


No, doing what we can to keep Orakpo in B&G is the right move, no matter who is responsible for it.

Rob Jackson is great off the bench and had that big INT to win vs. Dallas, but he's no Orakpo.

We'll regret it if we let him walk out the door.

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[quote=Schneed10;1061200]That's stupid. Not attacking you of course, you're just the messenger here. But what a ridiculous notion.

Tagging him is reflective of how hard it is to find an elite pass rusher. They hardly ever hit the open market, the only way to get one is draft them high. Or if they actually do hit the market, pay through the absolute nose to get one.

If you want a successful defense in today's passing league, you have to pony up. Some positions are just more important than others. You need a good LT, you need a good QB, you need a good pass rush and you need good CBs. The budget for those positions should be high.[/quote]

Yeah I agree. Said Rak is a Danny guy. Like I said last night, the market to replace Rak is thin and at our position in the draft it's kinda thin for 3-4 olbs.

The franchise tag just gives us leverage to get a deal done as well as to gage the market. No problem with it

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[quote=Chico23231;1061195]Httr24-7 saying the tag to Rak would be A Danny boy move, saying reaks of Dan still meddling. I personally wouldn't have a problem with it.[/quote]

Eh, I think he's more just pointing out that among the Redskins brain trust Snyder is far and away Rak's biggest supporter

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[quote=Chico23231;1061203]Yeah I agree. Said Rak is a Danny guy. Like I said last night, the market to replace Rak is thin and at our position in the draft it's kinda thin for 3-4 olbs.

The franchise tag just gives us leverage to get a deal done as well as to gage the market. No problem with it[/quote]

I'm in that same camp. Bottom line is while he's not a Matthews, Watt or Ware, he's still the best player we have at that position, the right age and one of our own assets that we've cultivated. I'd like to see a long term deal soon so that we can reduce his '14 cap number but at this point, I'm just glad we avoided the drama of him leaving and being a thorn in our side wearing another jersey.

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I'm happy to hear that we are tagging Rak. Can't just let him walk away.

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[quote=donofriose;1061190]Good, it is what they should do. Do not really see an issue with that unless they plan on signing every big name free agent out there.[/quote]

No. let him walk. He is not a top tier OLB. If they franchise him that's 11.4 mil (1/3 of the available cap) tied up on an average player. Where they could sign 2 capable free agents. The Skins are not in a position to overpay for a fair to good player that doesn't make big plays on a regular basis.

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[quote=Schneed10;1061200]That's stupid. Not attacking you of course, you're just the messenger here. But what a ridiculous notion.

Tagging him is reflective of how hard it is to find an elite pass rusher. They hardly ever hit the open market, the only way to get one is draft them high. Or if they actually do hit the market, pay through the absolute nose to get one.

If you want a successful defense in today's passing league, you have to pony up. Some positions are just more important than others. You need a good LT, you need a good QB, you need a good pass rush and you need good CBs. The budget for those positions should be high.[/quote]

He's not elite! That's part of the reason that they are not a good to great defense. They don't have great talent anywhere!

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[quote=whistler;1061224]No. let him walk. He is not a top tier OLB. If they franchise him that's 11.4 mil (1/3 of the available cap) tied up on an average player. Where they could sign 2 capable free agents. The Skins are not in a position to overpay for a fair to good player that doesn't make big plays on a regular basis.[/quote]

It is a one year deal. It won't impact them as much as a multi year deal would.

And going out and signing a bunch of free agents has proven to fail over and over again.

He is not elite but he is on a one year contract. It won't have a huge impact on any future plans they might have.