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[quote=SunnySide;1287543]I just dont see it as being in our interest.

save lives - bc our presence would prevent some future 9/11 event?

save treasure - cant think of any way staying would save us money.

Can you explain the lives and treasure thing?[/quote]

Explain why Biden policy failed…go ahead and break it down.

You seem to think it’s not in our interest after 2.5 trillion dollars have been spent.

U seem to excuse the Biden withdrawal…why is that?

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[quote=Chico23231;1287564]Imagine trying to defend Biden actions as the Taliban start to impose terror upon its people.

Jfc

Also we know Americans are in the country and can’t get our. What a disgrace

This is the worst foreign policy fuck up in our lifetime.

Nope, Trump never fucked up this bad. That’s a fact.

Own it!

Adults are back in charge…imagine being this retarted[/quote]

Imagine typing on a message board and thinking anyone cares what a hardline conservative has to say about a democrat fuckup.

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[quote=Chico23231;1287568]Explain why Biden policy failed…go ahead and break it down.

You seem to think it’s not in our interest after 2.5 trillion dollars have been spent.

U seem to excuse the Biden withdrawal…why is that?[/quote]

chico,....STFU.

[url]https://www.dw.com/en/timeline-us-and-nato-involvement-in-afghanistan/a-58870236[/url]

July 2018: US enters official negotiations with the Taliban without involving the elected Afghan government or NATO partners

February 2020: The US and the Taliban sign the Doha Agreement and the Taliban projects itself as the winner of its war against mighty NATO as foreign troops agree to withdraw.

September 2020: Intra-Afghan peace talks begin in the Qatari capital, Doha, but soon stall.

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😂!!!

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[quote=mooby;1287569]Imagine typing on a message board and thinking anyone cares what a hardline conservative has to say about a democrat fuckup.[/quote]

He's a Trumpster. Trumpsters aren't conservatives.

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[quote=nonniey;1287575]He's a Trumpster. Trumpsters aren't conservatives.[/quote]

Nailed it. I’m a conservative. Chico is an idiot.

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[quote=mooby;1287557]I agree, it pains me to think about what those people and their families will face if they can't get out.

It is a failure of Biden. I am comfortable laying the blame at his feet for the poor execution of the withdrawal, and his "blame the last guy" message that the last guy made famous.

[B]But in the end, I also agree with the decision to leave.[/B] Just wish the plan and execution had been better.

My sympathy to those who have worked their lives to affect change for the better in Afghanistan, and whose rewards will be nil - or worse - death and/or suffering.[/quote]

As does almost everybody.

We all knew we were leaving. And while one could- [I]could[/I]- make an argument for remaining, most are fine with departing.

It is simply the manner in which it was done.

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Chico how is the island you are on? I would ask someone else but it’s just you there….

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[quote=mooby;1287569]Imagine typing on a message board and thinking anyone cares what a hardline conservative has to say about a democrat fuckup.[/quote]

You are right. My rant and raving was a bit much yesterday. Apologies to you…SS and punch

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[quote=punch it in;1287616]Chico how is the island you are on? I would ask someone else but it’s just you there….[/quote]

Funny, cause I’m actually on an island. Cheers to u!

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[quote=JackLord;1287614]As does almost everybody.

We all knew we were leaving. And while one could- [I]could[/I]- make an argument for remaining, most are fine with departing.

It is simply the manner in which it was done.[/quote]

This is correct…

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1287626]This is correct…[/QUOTE]


It is. The question remains though is why? I still believe that they thought they had waaaaaay more time. That is what everyone is saying that is in the know. Nobody on this board is privy to the intelligence that Biden was getting.
The fact that they are now sending troops back in to help with the evacuation is proof of this. Nobody knew the security forces left in Afghanistan were going to fold that quickly. Maybe some had a hunch, but I believe the Intelligence on the ground there was saying anywhere from 30-90 days before the Taliban could take Kabul.
And for Trump to come out and pounce on this as a political moment is laughable. When Congress voted to speed up the visa process for some there only 16 members voted against it - all republicans- all in Trumps circle , so dont turn around now and say I told you so. That is nothing more than them looking to rake Biden over the coals for this in hopes of 2022/4. I will admit Biden should have probably been more cautious with the withdraw - but Trumpers must admit that he would have listened to the same intelligence and done the same thing. He was chomping at the bit to get the troops out of there. This is your opportunity for a meet you in the middle moment Chico.

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[quote=nonniey;1287575]He's a Trumpster. Trumpsters aren't conservatives.[/quote]

Jeez you went straight for the name calling/personal insult post, didn’t see that coming. Dare I say, very Trump of you.

Honestly thought this was a G1 post at first…who is the only “real” conservative on this board

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[quote=punch it in;1287631]It is. The question remains though is why? I still believe that they thought they had waaaaaay more time. That is what everyone is saying that is in the know. Nobody on this board is privy to the intelligence that Biden was getting.
The fact that they are now sending troops back in to help with the evacuation is proof of this. Nobody knew the security forces left in Afghanistan were going to fold that quickly. Maybe some had a hunch, but I believe the Intelligence on the ground there was saying anywhere from 30-90 days before the Taliban could take Kabul.[/quote]

Oh no Biden royally fucked this

This big problem now is getting the estimated 10k Americans out the country.

Just thinking of the Afghanistan women it will be terrible for them

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1287633]Oh no Biden royally fucked this

This big problem now is getting the estimated 10k Americans out the country.

Just thinking of the Afghanistan women it will be terrible for them[/QUOTE]


Do you honestly think Trump had a plan in place for the women there? What about the only 16 no votes in Congress about speeding up the visa process to get people out coming from 16 Trump Republicans? You can keep telling yourself it would have gone differently for Trump but you’re wrong. Intelligence was telling Biden 30-90 days - and Trump would have been told the same thing. This was a huge under estimation of the Taliban and a huge over estimation of the security forces by the Intelligence over there. That is all.

[url]https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/08/afghanistan-withdrawal-trump-biden.amp[/url]