I dont think we should trade Gardner just for a third...that would be stupid in my mind.

I wonder if we are looking to trade Gardner and an early '05 pick for Troupe later in the 1st round? Very happy with Taylor, our defense will be greatly improved.. Washington, Barrow, Arrington, Smoot, Springs, Taylor, whew that's something to be reckoned with..

what did the Browns trade to move up a spot?

Why is Gardner always talked about in a trade isn't Sameuls still on the block? And Trotter, man it would be nice to get at least something for him.

i like pain's suggestion... troupe for gardner/next year's high pick is a good deal

who was the next best rated TE in this draft? Or are we going to go with what we have? Here are some names that I have heard of Watson of Georgia, Utecht Minnesota or Scaife of Texas?

Lions take Roy Williams

Oooooo... Roy Williams, Charles Rogers, Harrington.

Man.. if the Lions get a RB, under Mooch, they'll have a hell of an offense.

Yea they are going to have a great offense if they get a back, they might be able to get Perry early in the second round. The lions got a second round pick from the Browns

[QUOTE=RedskinPete]who was the next best rated TE in this draft? Or are we going to go with what we have? Here are some names that I have heard of Watson of Georgia, Utecht Minnesota or Scaife of Texas?[/QUOTE]


Probably Ben Troupe from Florida. There's a good chance he'll go this round too.

so they gave up a second rounder to pick up winslow... people are paying high to move up in this draft

yea I dont know if I see us getting a first round pick, teams are giving up a ton to move up. The Lions might have taken Williams anyways.

I would be worried if I were Pitt there are teams who would love to move up and get Ben R.

Giant's may get rid of collin's and start eli immediatly, at least mort is saying he's hearing that.

watson is physically more talented than Winslow but his production hasen't been what it should be, that's what's keeping him out of the 1st rd. if Gibb's think's he can get that out of him we should get him, but there is a kid out of arkansas named peterson he's 6'5" 335lbs. and is a devestating blocker as a TE and run's around a 4.9 with good hand's but need's work in the passing game, could be had in the 3rd and is what I invision as a true TE/H-back for gibb's and could be moved very easily to O-tackle.

we will have to move some pick's next year but I think we have to do it, at this point i think wilfork is unrealistic but stark's or dockett and either watson or peterson that can be done.

good point... unlike past years, D-Linemen talent is falling to the mid-round instead of the top 10 it seems, so it seems logical for someone to trade down to a team wanting ben r. and still get the player they want

eh, mabye. The Jags want Udezi, not sure who the Falcons will go with here, mabye Harris. i wouldnt be surprised if there was a trade at this pick

the hokies are back together!

Hall it is, looks like I was right on my mock draft but worng just now when I guessed what was goined to happen.

coulda gone either way though... this draft is pretty good so far

That's a nice pick for the Falcons. I think Hall's going to be a great player in the NFL.

well, looks like the Jags smokescreen worked. They have the option to draft udezi if thye want now.

Taylor being taken at 5, is this the highest a safety has ever been taken?

Kudos for the Taylor pick, obviously the skin's do take stock in our input on this site! lol The more I think about the more I like it over Winslow, we still have an oppotunty to get a very good TE that chance doesn't exist as far as a safety especially in the mold of taylor, and apparently william's was really working over time to convince Gibb's on taylor, great job by William's!

There's a press conference right now (Taylor), you can listen to at

[url]www.redskins.com[/url]

[QUOTE=NM Redskin]Taylor being taken at 5, is this the highest a safety has ever been taken?[/QUOTE]


No, Eric Turner was taken #2 a while back

I am very happy about Taylor, but found myself leaning a little towards Winslow II at the end.....

Like I said. happy none the less

Eric Turner? was he a bust?

[QUOTE=hi-jinx]Why is Gardner always talked about in a trade isn't Sameuls still on the block? And Trotter, man it would be nice to get at least something for him.[/QUOTE]

There's no legitimate starting left tackle on the roster if we trade Samuels.. We have a plethora of WR so Gardner is expendable.. Nobody wants to trade for Trotter with that salary..

I don't remeber him really. Just read somewhere that Taylor had the oppurtunity to be the highest S picked since Eric Turner went #2 back in like 1990 I think

Jags take Reggie Williams (WR, Washington)

#9.. Reggie Williams to the Jags.

Deeeeeeep receiving class this year!

reggie is good... he just slept on this year. he was as highly regarded as roy and mike at the beginning of last year's college season

no D-linemen yet... harris/udeze/wilfork all still there

I can't believe that the Jags didnt get an offer to move down a few picks and would have still gotten a good WR. Pitt. must be sweating.

Let's make a trade and get Wilfork!

i'd trade my number one next year and gardner for any of the three linemen

well Pitt is going to get its guy. And the dlinemen are all still there...come on skins...make a move for Wilfork. Force me to hvae to buy three Jerseys next month!!

someone is gonna get a good rb with jackson still on the board too...

what is this? listening in on a phone call? reality tv!!!

I completely agree with everyone calling for a trade. I don't want to lose picks but Wilfork, Smith, Udeze, and Starks are going to be available later than we thought. I think we'd be wise to trade a 1st and 3rd next year for a mid-low first this year to get a DT or DE.