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i don't think gruden is an amazing coach, but i think he's an honest and generally competent one.

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The players love Gruden.

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In my view Gruden got off to a rocky start. Early on he was impatient at the QB position (including Kirk), the team looked unprepared and/or out coached at times. His press conferences were an untapped stream of consciousness ramble and was far too honest with the media for my taste.

I got the impression that he was sharp with passing game Xs and Os in his system but was/remains inflexible in making major schematic adjustments (which is fine provided there is production without those adjustments) and he kinda had a disheveled and bumbling appearance in my eyes compared to his brothers hardworking grinder type persona.

He has improved in many regards, helped no doubt by a weak NFC and schedule, but Kirk was his main accomplish. Getting Kirk to play productive, consistent, winning football. I still have concerns over (a) how his focus, approach, scheme and plan impact the running game (b) the inability to capitalize off turnovers (c) a stubbornness/ predictability to aspects of the offense (d) lack of adjustments on the fly to adapt to good defense (against bad defense he'll destroy them)

On the whole the offense is good. The special teams and defense are playing much better. Hats off to Scott.

Jay is still a young coach and he has given me much more reason to have faith going forward then at the start of the season.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1135299]The players love Gruden.[/QUOTE]


Yup. They play for him. They believe in him. This cannot be overlooked no matter how you feel about his x's and o's. Which I am fine with anyway.

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Jay should stay as long as kirk does, this appears to be the next Payton/Brees combo.

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McVay may be even more important to Cousins than Gruden.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1135321]McVay may be even more important to Cousins than Gruden.[/QUOTE]


So earlier in the year Gruden was the playcaller and Mcvay was like an assistant. Or such was the talk on here(yes since I dont live in the DC area, my Skins news source is the WP), has Mcvay sort have stepped up on the control ladder?

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re Cousins new contract - I think he realizes this system is geared towards his strengths and he would not have nearly the same success in a diff system. also, gruden/mcvay put their coaching jobs on the line to give him this chance. i also feel like this high production level w very little picks can not be sustained over the long run and his numbers will start to regress back to his median .. still very very good but i dont see a brees/brady/rodgers/manning type production level. more like eli manning/dalton/ryan/flacco, which would be great over the long run.

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An old article about McVay

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/06/09/players-call-sean-mcvay-a-genius-but-what-exactly-does-the-redskins-offensive-coordinator-do/[/url]

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[quote=over the mountain;1135327][IMG]http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/gruden_jay.jpg[/IMG]

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---------------------[/quote]BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAH!

I would love to see Gruden do a Madden impersonation, Caliendo style.

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Just heard something weird on one of my fav radio stations (wrnr out of annapolis) i stream while being attached to an office chair 8-10 hours a day.

Apparently cousins and the redskins are reading Lord of the Rings and like referencing it during games. I googled it and found this recent article really giving you insight on how OCD cousins is.

“I think developing a weekly rhythm and a weekly routine enables you to turn your brain off and just go through the routine as opposed to having to say, ‘What’s next?’ So, the beginning of the year I just sat down and made a spreadsheet of every 15-minute increment of my day for all seven days of the week and color-coded every [laughter] — I’m dead serious — I color-coded every 15-minute increment with what I’m doing. I said, ‘Alright, I’m in the cold tub at this time. I’m eating lunch at this time. On Mondays, it’s spend-time-with-my-wife time.’

“Today, the gray became the white,” Cousins tells some linemen near the end of the game. “We look to the east”

Cousins is seen celebrating after both of his second-half touchdown passes. After the short pass to Pierre Garcon, Cousins sprints toward the end zone.

“That’s all you. That’s all you. All you 88,” Cousins yells at Garcon, his voice cracking. “What a baller. What a baller. You guys are the best!”

And after his deep ball to DeSean Jackson, Cousins performs a loop-dee-loop before heading toward Jackson, his voice cracking again.

“Yeah yeah yeah, yeahhhhhhhh,” he says, before finding Jackson. “You’re the best. You are the best. Ahahaha, this guy, this guy, ahahaha, how good is he?”
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“Look at what putting our foot on the gas pedal the whole time has done,” Cousins says.

“That’s what we did last week, too,” McVay responds. “I’m going to keep doing that, dude. I‘m learning too. Dude, I’m learning.”

“Basically man, the first seven or eight games it was like ‘Well, we don’t want to put it all on me because I’m new,’ ” Cousins goes on.

“Yeah I know,” McVay says.

“But now that we’re doing that, it’s been our best shot,” Cousins concludes.

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/12/24/kirk-cousinss-impossibly-earnest-touchdown-celebrations/[/url]

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I'm happy we made the playoffs and like I said next year will be the test. We have the right GM/front office in place to get us back there I will leave it at that. HAPPY NEW YEAR to all.

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there is always the next test and the next and next…as far as I'm concerned the real test was last saturday night and We passed! I'm not worried about next year ..we have playoff games in front of us that we can win. Cousins is the best thing that has happened to skins in forever and he has done everything to become a very high quality QB . There are teams out there who would gladly give up first round pick plus more for his services .we are fortunate we got him.

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[quote=MTK;1135299]The players love Gruden.[/quote]

Jay Gruden is a player's coach...his brother was a great his coach and his father was a head coach.... so I knew he had what it took to be a head coach.... last season he was dealing with the baggage from the Shanahan regime. And as a rookie head coach last year he could do no better than he did.

I think he's ascending as a head coach now.

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I must admit I didn't confidence in Cousins early in the season. Over three weeks he's been looking like an elite qb. It's not a matter of stats. It's how he's playing the position. He's setting protections, looking off safeties, reading defenses, and passing the ball very efficiently. What I find the most impressive is that he's doing all of this without a running game. Personally, I believe he can get even better.

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[quote=punch it in;1135326]So earlier in the year Gruden was the playcaller and Mcvay was like an assistant. Or such was the talk on here(yes since I dont live in the DC area, my Skins news source is the WP), has Mcvay sort have stepped up on the control ladder?[/quote]

Cooley said on the radio that McVay was calling the plays. He said Gruden still had final say and what not as you'd expect.

He and the others on the radio show surmised that Gruden is dodgy about the play calling question to deflect any negative comments to himself.

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It's time to start getting the running game cranked up....

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McVay has always called the plays this yr. Gruden will veto whatever he chooses though.

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[url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/redskinsblog/cousins-and-reed-can-rewrite-redskins-record-book-sunday?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo]Cousins and Reed can rewrite the Redskins' record book on Sunday | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url]

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[url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000612933/article/qb-index-awards?campaign=tw-nf-sf17969380-sf17969380[/url]

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[quote=Defensewins;1135446][URL="http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/redskinsblog/cousins-and-reed-can-rewrite-redskins-record-book-sunday?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo"]Cousins and Reed can rewrite the Redskins' record book on Sunday | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/URL][/quote]

Charlie Taylor and Jerry Smith? Yeeeoww.....

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Kirk Cousins' first season as Redskins starter: 379-543 (69.8%), 4,166 yards, 29 TDs, 11 INTS, 101.6 rating. And oh yeah, division champs.

Pay the man.

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[quote=MTK;1135696]Kirk Cousins' first season as Redskins starter: 379-543 (69.8%), 4,166 yards, 29 TDs, 11 INTS, 101.6 rating. And oh yeah, division champs.

Pay the man.[/quote]

Agreed. Ink em

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[quote=MTK;1135696]Kirk Cousins' first season as Redskins starter: 379-543 (69.8%), 4,166 yards, 29 TDs, 11 INTS, 101.6 rating. And oh yeah, division champs.

Pay the man.[/quote]

We need Cousins AVY

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[quote=MTK;1135696]Kirk Cousins' first season as Redskins starter: 379-543 (69.8%), 4,166 yards, 29 TDs, 11 INTS, 101.6 rating. And oh yeah, division champs.

Pay the man.[/quote]

He deserves it. They should give Cousins a 5 year $83 million dollar deal. .

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[quote=MTK;1135696]Kirk Cousins' first season as Redskins starter: 379-543 (69.8%), 4,166 yards, 29 TDs, 11 INTS, 101.6 rating. And oh yeah, division champs.

Pay the man.[/quote]

And played all 16 games. Guy stays healthy

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boy i'm glad we didn't go out and get cutler. what a mistake that would have been.

only downside is that cousins got a LOT more expensive over the course of the year. you got to pay him though.

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[quote=MTK;1135696]Kirk Cousins' first season as Redskins starter: 379-543 (69.8%), 4,166 yards, 29 TDs, 11 INTS, 101.6 rating. And oh yeah, division champs.

Pay the man.[/quote]

In just his first season as starter, KC became Redskins all-time yards passing in a single season leader with 4135 passing yards for the year. He did not even play the second half of game today, he would have had more.

Cousins also broke another Redskins all-time record as he surpassed Sonny Jurgensen's mark for touchdowns by a quarterback in a single season. With his two touchdown passes today, Cousins has 34 touchdowns, one better than Jurgensen's 33.

I wonder how those that said he was a run of the mill, mid level Qb, that would have more turnovers than TD's feel now? That he had hit his ceiling after only nine career NFL starts would never amount to anything.

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Kirk is a legit starter. He's our guy for the next 8 to 10 years

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There is not a qb that is playing better right now than KC.

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[QUOTE=Defensewins;1135725]In just his first season as starter, KC became Redskins all-time yards passing leader with 4135 passing yards for the year. He did not even play the second half of game today, he would have had more.



Cousins also broke another Redskins all-time record as he surpassed Sonny Jurgensen's mark for touchdowns by a quarterback in a single season. With his two touchdown passes today, Cousins has 34 touchdowns, one better than Jurgensen's 33.



I wonder how those that said he was a run of the mill, mid level Qb, that would have more turnovers than TD's feel now? That he had hit his ceiling after only nine career NFL starts would never amount to anything.[/QUOTE]


They feel like they may have been a tad bit hasty,....
He is also the first Redskins QB to throw for atleast one TD in every regular season game. Rite now, at this moment, I would not trade him for any other QB. When you take age into the equation I would not. Wow.

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Haters got every right to hate until a guy proves himself. KC has proved himself.

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Well u guys all know I hated on KC I said he was another JC... again I'm glad I was wrong

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[quote=punch it in;1135774]They feel like they may have been a tad bit hasty,....
He is also the first Redskins QB to throw for atleast one TD in every regular season game. Rite now, at this moment, I would not trade him for any other QB. When you take age into the equation I would not. Wow.[/quote]

Luck. Wilson.

But Kirk is getting into the conversation. That alone is amazing.

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Honestly cousins didn't really cement himself as a long term plan until the last few weeks. I'm big kc fan but I have this nagging feeling that the past 5 games or so were peak times for us. All weapons healthy, everyone in perfect sync, offensive play calling new looks, defense getting timely turnovers, weak opponents etc.

What happens when a smart coached defense jams shit up and causes cousins to go "off schedule". Dallas in the mnf just rushed and stunted the pass rush and it felt like the coaches were coming off a bye w time to scheme.

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So the offense peaking together is a bad thing?

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1135785]Luck. Wilson.



But Kirk is getting into the conversation. That alone is amazing.[/QUOTE]


Wilson really is the guy I thought about, but I cant stand him. Luck is debatable. Agreed though, amazing that it is even a conversation.

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[QUOTE=over the mountain;1135789]Honestly cousins didn't really cement himself as a long term plan until the last few weeks. I'm big kc fan but I have this nagging feeling that the past 5 games or so were peak times for us. All weapons healthy, everyone in perfect sync, offensive play calling new looks, defense getting timely turnovers, weak opponents etc.



What happens when a smart coached defense jams shit up and causes cousins to go "off schedule". Dallas in the mnf just rushed and stunted the pass rush and it felt like the coaches were coming off a bye w time to scheme.[/QUOTE]


Even the greatest of the greats have off days so of course Cousins will. All of those things you mentioned are fair points. What about the flip side though? More weapons and draft picks, another year of experience under his and the teams belts. Growing confidence.

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Another McCloughan offseason. That's the biggest plus I can think of, and it's in Kirk's column.

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