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[quote=SmootSmack;1103649]The deal is done, the details that have to be worked out are very minor[/quote]

Thanks Smoot! Good, I feel better. I can't wait to hear the official details of the deal.

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Smoot, will he make immediate changes to scouts and FO personnel, or will he start his own evaluations? Wondering if negotiations are also about other personnel additions? His own assistants.

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Y would we get rid of PG? He's a stud

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[quote=Evilgrin;1103652]Smoot, will he make immediate changes to scouts and FO personnel, or will he start his own evaluations? Wondering if negotiations are also about other personnel additions? His own assistants.[/quote]

Good questions, and my thoughts from reading the article from ESPN on McCloughan is that he has guys in mind in terms of scouting, coaching, etc...

So, I would assume he would want to bring in his own guys for the scouting department, and I'd say by all means, let him do it. The question is, does his GM responsibilities just go player personnel deep, or will he have say over coaching staff, trainers, color of the seats, color of the uniforms, etc.....

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If he is a real GM, then Gruden is probably on a little bit of shaky ground because McCloughan didn't hire him.

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[quote=over the mountain;1103642]
schneed - my layperson opinion is that Allen has done a good job not handcuffing future caps with bad back loaded contracts. We also have some under performing or injured vets that can be cut at no real cap penalty.

are our present and future cap obligations in a very good position for McC to have a lot of freedom and options? i feel like for the first time in a long time, we have room and are not pressed up against the cap.[/quote]

Yeah we should be in OK shape. Each year in the foreseeable future there are enough contracts expiring that will allow for some room to maneuver. That said we won't have the most room in the league. But you don't hire McCloughan if your intent is to build through free agency. This is clearly a pivot to the draft, and we'll have enough cap room to make a few key moves in free agency.

Don't expect an overnight fix by any stretch. Our roster is so bad. Scot will have to cycle through a few drafts before we're competitive again.

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[quote=skinsguy;1103654]Good questions, and my thoughts from reading the article from ESPN on McCloughan is that he has guys in mind in terms of scouting, coaching, etc...

So, I would assume he would want to bring in his own guys for the scouting department, and I'd say by all means, let him do it. The question is, does his GM responsibilities just go player personnel deep, or will he have say over coaching staff, trainers, color of the seats, color of the uniforms, etc.....[/quote]

having a full and legit personnel staff would be awesome.

i could never understand how we have this rich owner who will do anything to win .... yet it is like pulling teeth to get him to invest in the scouting dept or add amenities to Fed Ex.

i also really want to know scott campbells draft grades. can someone call wikileaks and make this happen?

schneed - thanks. can you tell me your grade of BA just on his ability to manage the cap? id put it at a B.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1103635]To compare Garcon to Amerson is like comparing LaVeon Bell to Roy Helu, big difference there. Not to mention you brought up Garcon if I am not mistaken.[/quote]

????

I was not comparing the two to each other. There is thread about Amerson and talk of what do with Garcon in here.

Neither points were brought up by me. I am just commenting they seem like moot points to me.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1103619]Getting rid of Garcon would be stupid. Beyond stupid.[/quote]

Not if the front office thinks there is a WR that's an upgrade over Garcon....

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[quote=Evilgrin;1103652]Smoot, will he make immediate changes to scouts and FO personnel, or will he start his own evaluations? Wondering if negotiations are also about other personnel additions? His own assistants.[/quote]

There will be some immediate changes, but I expect many won't come until after the draft at the earliest

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Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer 5m5 minutes ago
McCloughan's just finalized deal to become Redskins GM is for 4 years.

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Love this...


‏@AlbertBreer
Redskins GM Scot McCloughan has final say over the 53-man roster.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1103653]Y would we get rid of PG? He's a stud[/quote]

I like PG and would like to keep him.
But if our cap spreadsheet is accurate [B]PG, DJax and Andre Roberts will account for $23.20million of our cap next season.[/B] That is not the salary structure I want for a non playoff team that can't do the basics of protecting its Qb's and covering WR in this pass happy league. We do not need Ferrari's in the garage when we do not have money for gasoline. We have to learn to tie our shoes and learn to walk before we can run. Some difficult changes have to happen at WR salary cap wise. Jus sayin.

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[quote=Redskins_P;1103665]Love this...


‏@AlbertBreer
Redskins GM Scot McCloughan has final say over the 53-man roster.[/quote]

Wait, so the coach cannot cut a player without checking with SM? Wow.

Strikes me as a bit odd but, hopefully, Gruden and he can work through any big issues.

Clearly, the keys to the car were just handed to Mr. McCloughan.

Let's just hope we don't get a DWI. (I kid, I kid!)

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More from the twitterverse:

Ed Werder ‏@Edwerderespn · 12m12 minutes ago
New #Redskins GM Scot McCloughan told by Dan Snyder that owner is embarrassed and just wants to win, that he and Bruce Allen won't interfere

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1103668]More from the twitterverse:

Ed Werder ‏@Edwerderespn · 12m12 minutes ago
New #Redskins GM Scot McCloughan told by Dan Snyder that owner is embarrassed and just wants to win, that he and Bruce Allen won't interfere[/quote]

I hope Snyder finally effing means it. But history says...

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Great quotes

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/01/07/scot-mccloughan-likes-building-teams-through-the-draft/]Scot McCloughan likes building teams through the draft - The Washington Post[/url]

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1103668]More from the twitterverse:

Ed Werder ‏@Edwerderespn · 12m12 minutes ago
New #Redskins GM Scot McCloughan told by Dan Snyder that owner is embarrassed and just wants to win, that he and Bruce Allen won't interfere[/quote]

This is the best thing I've seen in a LONG time. He should be f'n embarrassed and should have been for the better part of the past 15 years. I want to believe that he will stay away and just let things happen but I've been down this road too many times to get fooled by January proclamations. I'll believe it when I see it.

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im down right giddy.

of course, now the hard work for them and the patience for us begins.

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I'm sure his contract guarantees him full control. Regardless, Danny tends to not interfere with those he trusts/respects.

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[quote=mredskins;1103659]????

I was not comparing the two to each other. There is thread about Amerson and talk of what do with Garcon in here.

Neither points were brought up by me. I am just commenting they seem like moot points to me.[/quote]


My bad only looked at the avatar, didn't see the name, was referring to Chico there. My fault man, 3 young kids in my house. Haven't had my eyes all the way open since I was 23.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1103675]My bad only looked at the avatar, didn't see the name, was referring to Chico there. My fault man, 3 young kids in my house. Haven't had my eyes all the way open since I was 23.[/quote]

When did the 3 kid come along? I thought it was just twins

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Here is some fuel for those in here who hate the whole concept of networking:

Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer 5m5 minutes ago
One important thing on Scot McCloughan -- picking Washington had much to do with his relationship with and trust in Skins prez Bruce Allen.

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[quote=Chico23231;1103669]I hope Snyder finally effing means it. But history says...[/quote]

Snyder hasn't directly interfered in years. But he has others in the organization who say "Do what you feel is best, but Mr. Snyder strongly feels..."

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[quote=SmootSmack;1103682]Snyder hasn't directly interfered in years. But he has others in the organization who say "Do what you feel is best, but Mr. Snyder strongly feels..."[/quote]

I can only hope McC tell that lacky to eff off. I mean Dan really needs to back the f*ck up now. This dude isnt gonna deal with that sh*t

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This is great news! Finally a real football guy with a proven track record being in charge of the 53 man roster! I'm sure he also has jurisdiction over the coaching staff as well. Will be interesting to see what he does with that.

I'm assuming Bruce Allen will still negotiate contracts?

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[quote=SmootSmack;1103682]Snyder hasn't directly interfered in years. But he has others in the organization who say "Do what you feel is best, but Mr. Snyder strongly feels..."[/quote]

The passive aggressive approach. It's always the best and nothing ever goes wrong when you lead through passive aggressiveness.

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[quote=Lotus;1103686]The passive aggressive approach. It's always the best and nothing ever goes wrong when you lead through passive aggressiveness.[/quote]

And lets be honest, people love hear from other people through a lacky. Thats how you build respect as leader.

As an example, Ill never forget meeting a new executive in the office who had been partnered with larger group who was going to be working in close proximity to me and our small group of 5. Now when didnt report nor really gave 2 sh*ts about this person. On the walk through we small talked, smiled, laugh and even shared a joke about a fellow co worker we both happened to know. It was great. Later that day a guy came up to me and said "Hey El Chico, dumb b*tch would prefered if you lowered the curtain in the office so it will match with the rest of the floor."

I remember looking at my co worker and telling them how much I respected this new person and how I will hate f*ck her if given the privilage.

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Rare optimism from JLC. Never thought I'd see the day this happened.
[url=http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24941627/why-scot-mccloughan-could-be-the-gm-to-finally-end-redskins-insanity]Why Scot McCloughan could be the GM to finally end Redskins insanity[/url]

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1103668]More from the twitterverse:

Ed Werder ‏@Edwerderespn · 12m12 minutes ago
New #Redskins GM Scot McCloughan told by Dan Snyder that owner is embarrassed and just wants to win, that he and Bruce Allen won't interfere[/quote]

Dickhead should be embarrassed and should refund fans for this shit show the past decade.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1103679]When did the 3 kid come along? I thought it was just twins[/quote]

Just recently had a son, a little Quake Jr. if you will.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1103696]Just recently had a son, a little Quake Jr. if you will.[/quote]


Congrats , so would he be #3 on the "richter scale" ?:)

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1103699]Congrats ![/QUOTE]


They poop soooooooo much man.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1103701]They poop soooooooo much man.[/quote]

LOL! My little man has gas all the time! And makes the weirdest, yet cutest faces when he's letting on out!

OK, now back to more GM talk, lol!

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1103701]They poop soooooooo much man.[/quote]

yes , yes they do !:food-smil

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1103696]Just recently had a son, a little Quake Jr. if you will.[/quote]

Nice!

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Congrats on your sea of pooh Quake!

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[quote=SmootSmack;1103682]Snyder hasn't directly interfered in years. But he has others in the organization who say "Do what you feel is best, but Mr. Snyder strongly feels..."[/quote]

In other words....

Bruce... "So Jay, Colt did a nice job against Dallas, but who are you leaning towards this week?"

Jay.... "I'm leaning towards playing Colt again"

Bruce..."Do what you feel is best, but Mr. Snyder strongly feels it's time for Griffin to get back on the field"

Jay.... "Sure thing Bruce!"

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[quote=hutch17;1103648][url=http://www.thrillist.com/drink/nation/why-i-hate-ipas-thrillist-nation]Why I hate IPAs - Thrillist[/url][/quote]

I respect this opinion and can only say that one man's garbage......usually gets picked up off the curb and placed neatly in my living room.

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Of course -- because it's the Redskins, we broke a rule in hiring Scot McCloughan: [url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12134120/washington-redskins-skirted-rooney-rule-gm-hire]Washington Redskins may have skirted Rooney Rule with GM hire - ESPN[/url]

What a dumb non-story -- nothing to see here. I wonder whether this even becomes news if it's about any other team.